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2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

Edwin said:
Channel One behind the scenes from Junior Worlds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cx58kvTuF4 , as usual with lovely close ups, slow motion scenes, montage to nice music.

Maya sounded especially relieved and thankful :-)

Kamila telling her rink mates are both her opponents and friends :-) Sneaking her way back into a corner of the rink to support Dar'ya.

Dar'ya, always the neat and prim girl, with her hair wild in the EX ;-)

Thanks and Thumbs Up to Channel One for serving us this treat, a real uplift in the difficult times that are now falling upon us.
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Those vids are one of the best things in figure skating. :thumbsup:

Edit: I love Sergei's reaction at 11:26 :rock:

Edit2: Yes, it's so cute to see Kamila watching Daria's performance and clapping :agree: (and singing malade :2thumbs:)
 
Edwin said:
Kostyuk was in #TeamPanova, right? A lot of skaters have left Snow Leopards this season, to be never seen nor heard of again.
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Yes she was, but I don't think she's competed at all this season. :confused2: It's a shame, I really enjoyed her skating.
 
kmw227 said:
Yes she was, but I don't think she's competed at all this season. :confused2: It's a shame, I really enjoyed her skating.
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That's the case with a lot of Russian skaters sadly. The depth. SOme of them who devot eso much only to realize that they will never make it out of the country and dont' want to/find it more worthwhile to study than to switch countries and push through puberty. They just fade, and people forget about them. Many of them were lovely skaters. At Canadian nationals the only one with a 3Lz+3T (correct me if I'm wrong) was Kaiya Ruiter but in Russia you can have solid 3Lz+3T and not even get a JGP assignment, or not even make it to jr nationals. It's crazy. ANd a lot of it is politics too, as seen with Sultanmagomedova and others. If she transferred to ETeri right this minute I bet you she would be getting two JGP assignments and 200+ scores next season.

The depth is so insane that it's both scary and amazing at the same time! I guess Nastya K and Daria P were one of the ones that were once part of a huge influx of girls coming up to threaten those above them, and now have been buried by their own reflections.

Also, there's still a list, a very old on on Tapatalk with some of the best prospects of Russian ladies skating https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/fig...-of-russian-ladies-in-figure-skating-t62.html but it hasn't been updated and is missing some key names like Petrosyan, etc. Could we somehow make a new list? (Not on tapatalk obv)


(Btw any reason as to why the large group of skaters left Snow Leopards, and why Frolo, Sinitsyna, and Taraly stayed? Updates on whether or not Tarakanova is planning to continue?)
 
eterislouisvuitton said:
(Btw any reason as to why the large group of skaters left Snow Leopards, and why Frolo, Sinitsyna, and Taraly stayed? Updates on whether or not Tarakanova is planning to continue?)
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Snow Leopards is a smaller club that doesn't have nearly as much money or political influence compared to other Moscow clubs like Sambo70 and CSKA, and from what I've seen/heard, their training conditions are certainly less than ideal for a top skater. I think that's why a lot of their promising skaters leave, unfortunately.

Also, Frolova left Snow Leopards as well. She's at CSKA with Davydov now. And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Sinitsyna leaves too.
 
kmw227 said:
Yes she was, but I don't think she's competed at all this season. :confused2: It's a shame, I really enjoyed her skating.
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If I remember correctly I saw her in one of Nastya’s videos doing pairs elements up to a double throw. Not sure if that means she’s going to go into pairs but it could be an option for her. It’s sad tho cause in terms of skating/maturity I’d say she was better than even Kosto—she just never has the consistency on her jumps.
 
Sof'ya Akat'yeva (4T+2T, 4T, 3A(fall))
Dar'ya Usachyova
Alina Gorbachyova

gave the X-th Winter Spartakiad a wonderful conclusion.

FP protocols: https://fsrussia.ru/results/1920/sparta2020/p__Scores.pdf

Je Suis Malade for the final time ever in competition,
Alina on the podium for the first time, very well done, little dynamite :-)
the final girls skating competition of the season?
 
Edwin said:
Sof'ya Akat'yeva (4T+2T, 4T, 3A(fall))
Dar'ya Usachyova
Alina Gorbachyova

gave the X-th Winter Spartakiad a wonderful conclusion.

FP protocols: https://fsrussia.ru/results/1920/sparta2020/p__Scores.pdf

Je Suis Malade for the final time ever in competition,
Alina on the podium for the first time, very well done, little dynamite :-)
the final girls skating competition of the season?
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Alina looked exhausted-still she pressed through and powered all the jumps, even if she lacked her usual energy. It was so nice to see her medal.
I'm sure it is obvious to all of these little girls-either get the 3axel or a quad this summer, or be winnowed out next year. The good news is from watching the Novice groups, there are plenty of little girls capable of doing 3A's and quads. And just as many in the junior group. Perhaps it is a good thing that the season is ending now, because next year is going to be a whole new world for all of them.
 
katymay said:
Alina looked exhausted-still she pressed through and powered all the jumps, even if she lacked her usual energy. It was so nice to see her medal.
I'm sure it is obvious to all of these little girls-either get the 3axel or a quad this summer, or be winnowed out next year. The good news is from watching the Novice groups, there are plenty of little girls capable of doing 3A's and quads. And just as many in the junior group. Perhaps it is a good thing that the season is ending now, because next year is going to be a whole new world for all of them.
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Alina scamped the boards even, loss of concentration? But perhaps the ice was smaller, as there were more skaters hitting the boards.

Alina is learning a quad Salchov at least, perhaps a triksel too. Dar'ya is already well on her way in getting the triksel in her arsenal. In their interviews, the girls tell learning an ultra-si jump takes a few weeks, before the longer process of perfecting and integrating the jump begins. Sof'ya keeps working on her ultra-si.

We'll see how long the current lock down of sports schools will last and how it influences the skater's development towards the new season.
For now, schools are closed, lots of family holidays will need to get re-planned, cancelled or what ever. So many unknowns, even the kids will worry, professional athletes as they are ...
 
Sofia Akatieva impresses me but scares me at the same time. I hope that as she gets older she develops more strength because if she keeps going like this her lutz edge is getting unclear, and is relying incredibly on fast rotation. But her interpretation and skating skills are rather nice, as are her spins especially when you consider that she is only 12 years old. Can't wait to see her on the JGP in the olympic season, maybe she'll steal the show just like Trusova did.

Gorbacheva, I haven't seen this girl yet but I read that she is JGP eligible in 2021-22 and has already gained a lot of fans. If she's already learning 4S and 3A, that's great because they'll be solid by the time she is a junior international.

Daria said that she is learning triple axel, and that it was going well prior to jr nationals. Well, we haven't seen anything yet so assuming she hasn't got it yet because Eteri posts it usually right after they get it. I can see her doing it, her double axel is beautiful. There is also rumor of a 4S for Daria, which is also a possibility though I can't see that being really consistent. Also, any reason that Usacheva isn't doing 3Lz+3T yet? I know she has it consistent, but are they trying to avoid the edge call? Surely they must know that it will be ignored because of who she is....
 
eterislouisvuitton said:
Daria said that she is learning triple axel, and that it was going well prior to jr nationals. Well, we haven't seen anything yet so assuming she hasn't got it yet because Eteri posts it usually right after they get it. I can see her doing it, her double axel is beautiful. There is also rumor of a 4S for Daria, which is also a possibility though I can't see that being really consistent. Also, any reason that Usacheva isn't doing 3Lz+3T yet? I know she has it consistent, but are they trying to avoid the edge call? Surely they must know that it will be ignored because of who she is....
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Honestly, I think that Eteri and her team’s goal for Daria this season was to gain consistency, confidence, and to learn how to handle the nerves of international competitions. I think that’s why they didn’t change Daria’s layout at all this season also. In my opinion this was a good plan because now Daria has some confidence going into the next season and has established herself as one of the best juniors in the world. You never know what jumps these girls have and don’t have. I mean Eteri never posted any videos of Aliona’s triple axel at the beginning of the season, so just because these girls have the hard jumps doesn’t mean that Eteri has to post them all. Sometimes it’s best to just stay quiet and surprise your competition. As for the triple lutz combo, I don’t see a big deal with doing a flip combo instead. If it is more consistent and reliable than the lutz combo, then I think that the obvious choice is to go with the flip.
 
Good Vibes Only said:
Honestly, I think that Eteri and her team’s goal for Daria this season was to gain consistency, confidence, and to learn how to handle the nerves of international competitions. I think that’s why they didn’t change Daria’s layout at all this season also. In my opinion this was a good plan because now Daria has some confidence going into the next season and has established herself as one of the best juniors in the world. You never know what jumps these girls have and don’t have. I mean Eteri never posted any videos of Aliona’s triple axel at the beginning of the season, so just because these girls have the hard jumps doesn’t mean that Eteri has to post them all. Sometimes it’s best to just stay quiet and surprise your competition. As for the triple lutz combo, I don’t see a big deal with doing a flip combo instead. If it is more consistent and reliable than the lutz combo, then I think that the obvious choice is to go with the flip.
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Agreed, and that went well. During JGPF there still was a fall and nervosity in the free skate, but since then Daria's consistency improved hugely, at junior nationals, junior worlds (apart from a smaller mistake during SP) and now at Spartakiad.
 
flanker said:
Agreed, and that went well. During JGPF there still was a fall and nervosity in the free skate, but since then Daria's consistency improved hugely, at junior nationals, junior worlds (apart from a smaller mistake during SP) and now at Spartakiad.
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Exactly, three competitions in a row clean including the most important competition of the season is a huge mental improvement for her. At the beginning of the season, I was worried about her adding a quad or 3A, because she wasn't consistent with her triples, but now if you look at her whole season, she actually did 5/8 free programs clean (the last three + the Russian Cup event + Denis Ten). That's a huge improvement, and not a bad overall record at all.
 
flanker said:
Agreed, and that went well. During JGPF there still was a fall and nervosity in the free skate, but since then Daria's consistency improved hugely, at junior nationals, junior worlds (apart from a smaller mistake during SP) and now at Spartakiad.
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And what she does do, she does so beautifully. The axel and entrance is gold. Her skating skills/flow extension etc. are perfection. BUT, not enough to overcome skaters with quad Toes. What has played out on the senior level will, next year play out on the junior level in a big way I think. Quads and triple axels are here to stay and necessary to have a chance at a medal-at least next year. (Unless the ISU devalues them, and I don't see that happening with so many now being attempted by so many different skaters)
 
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