2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Kittosuni]

As far as I'm aware, the transition window exists to protect coaches from financial losses. Aliona Kostornaia will compete officially as a member of Sambo 70 as a protection to Eteri. So whatever awards Aliona wins this season, Eteri will still receive the same cut she always did, even if she's not actually responsible for Kostornaia. The same would be the reverse, if Aliona had switched from Plushenko to Eteri, then Plushenko would receive all the funding. This is why Plushenko mentioned "we will make sure we handle her funding" because Eteri technically still gets all the national team funding for Aliona.

As for whether or not a coach can kick out a member of a national team outside of the transition window, I do not know. My immediate guess would be... no, unless there was some exemption and they also forfeited funding. But do not quote me on this, that's just my conjecture given how it works the other way around.

Rusfed gives 2 types of funding to the athletes

1.personal funding AKA monthly stipend- Obviously differs if the athlete is in the main team or reserve team. doesn't matter if she switch coaches, injured or not training. Funding only stops when athlete gets booted off the national team or officially retire. Officially retire means they have to file the paper because it also legally stops the Rusfed to make money off of the athlete. So no matter what Kostarnaya is and will still get her monthly stipend As long as she remains a national team member.

2. Club funding- Coaches doesnt get an actual funding from the Rusfed. Rusfed gives the money to the club and the club will disperse it to coaches/trainers etc or whatever arrangements they have. Eteri doesnt own Sambo. She is just one of their many coaches. So doesnt exclusively pocket An athlete’s club funding.

Also the only events Rusfed officially fund the competition/training expenses of a coach/athlete are European/worlds/ Olympics. The rest its a club funding.

 

[icybear]

So Alena has finally got her first endorsement. And there's no mistaking who's linked her endorsement savior he's looming right over her. Haha I seriously wonder why Alena had to stand in front of a giant photo of Plushenko for a toothpaste ad.

 

[Mathman]

Only liking this sport for the skaters is offensive to the judges, the tech panel and the Zamboni man!

On the other hand, Frank Zamboni is in the World Figure Skating Hall of Fame -- an honor that not many mere skaters achieve.

 

[lopsilceci]

Why is eteri and her coach friends than whining in basically every interview how bad alyona was??

Every interview... Haha, as if there have been any since the news first broke out.

 

[lopsilceci]

On the other hand, Frank Zamboni is in the World Figure Skating Hall of Fame -- an honor that not many mere skaters achieve.

I didn't even know there was a World Figure Skating Hall of Fame! :roll9:

 

[Mathman]

I didn't even know there was a World Figure Skating Hall of Fame! :roll9:

http://www.worldskatingmuseum.org/WorldHallOfFame.html

 

[Happy Skates]

Rusfed gives 2 types of funding to the athletes

1.personal funding AKA monthly stipend- Obviously differs if the athlete is in the main team or reserve team. doesn't matter if she switch coaches, injured or not training. Funding only stops when athlete gets booted off the national team or officially retire. Officially retire means they have to file the paper because it also legally stops the Rusfed to make money off of the athlete. So no matter what Kostarnaya is and will still get her monthly stipend As long as she remains a national team member.

2. Club funding- Coaches doesnt get an actual funding from the Rusfed. Rusfed gives the money to the club and the club will disperse it to coaches/trainers etc or whatever arrangements they have. Eteri doesnt own Sambo. She is just one of their many coaches. So doesnt exclusively pocket An athlete’s club funding.

Also the only events Rusfed officially fund the competition/training expenses of a coach/athlete are European/worlds/ Olympics. The rest its a club funding.

This is all very interesting information. So if a skater is sent to a challenger, that is club funded? This might explain the reason for not all of Russia's challenger spots being used.

 

[Kittosuni]

This is all very interesting information. So if a skater is sent to a challenger, that is club funded? This might explain the reason for not all of Russia's challenger spots being used.

Should be covered by whatever fund the Rusfed gives to the club but obviously club will want to save money by getting economy ticket instead of first class, grouping skaters or sending only 1 coach etc. if a skater flies first class most likely is paid by sponsor or by themselves.

If the team/athletes train outside their camp in preparation for euros/worlds Rusfed will arrange and pay for everything. But for other training camps abroad etc the club will arrange and pay for it.

 

[Jontor]

This is all very interesting information. So if a skater is sent to a challenger, that is club funded? This might explain the reason for not all of Russia's challenger spots being used.

Indeed. And it seems that Mishin is prioritizing Challengers. Both Tuktamysheva and Samodurova went to three events last season.

 

[Resa]

But isn't Tarakanova the best pupil of Panova currently? Surely the club would have sent her to a Senior B if they could.

 

[ruga]

I wonder when they are finally going to tell us the rest of the Russian Cup assignments? The first Cup is just over a week away and we still do not know which assignments the juniors have.

Alina is supposed to make a decision after test skates, so full lists will be then since the number of spots are limited. I too wonder what girls will participate since there are 60 spots in total so enough or 30 people who want to qualify.

 

[Alex65]

But isn't Tarakanova the best pupil of Panova currently? Surely the club would have sent her to a Senior B if they could.

The participation of athletes' families in funding is still very important. For non-members of the national team of family expenses can simply be prohibitive.

 

[sparklestan]

But isn't Tarakanova the best pupil of Panova currently? Surely the club would have sent her to a Senior B if they could.

Sinitsyna is Panovas number 1. I’d say Tarakanova is number 2.

 

[Lunalovesskating]

Alina will not go to Test Skates:

“I made the decision not to participate in the test skates on September 12-13, because at the moment it is very interesting for me to try myself in a new role as the host of the Ice Age. I ask you to treat my request with understanding and agree on this decision"

https://fsrussia.ru/novosti-federat...v-kontrol-nykh-prokatakh-sbornoj-komandy.html

 

[kwanatic]

Alina will not go to Test Skates:

https://fsrussia.ru/novosti-federat...v-kontrol-nykh-prokatakh-sbornoj-komandy.html

Not too surprising really. She's got other things going on and, considering the amount of competition even though it's just a test skate, she doesn't want to go out there unprepared.

Best of luck on her new hosting gig! That sounds exciting

 

[Amei]

But isn't Tarakanova the best pupil of Panova currently? Surely the club would have sent her to a Senior B if they could.

I'm sure clubs require the skater to kick in some money and Tarakanova has mentioned financial needs. Given that she was on the team on a probation period last season and has frequently changed coaches I wonder/wouldn't be surprised if her club asks her to pitch in more financially than usual

 

[fabienne1996]

Alina will not go to Test Skates:

https://fsrussia.ru/novosti-federat...v-kontrol-nykh-prokatakh-sbornoj-komandy.html

So ist almost 99 percent sure she will not compete this season right?

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[macy]

So ist almost 99 percent sure she will not compete this season right?

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i would say most likely not.

 

[flanker]

Forget this "season not season", whether Alina will compete next season is the question. Even I am not very optimistic about it.

 

[Amei]

Not too surprising really. She's got other things going on and, considering the amount of competition even though it's just a test skate, she doesn't want to go out there unprepared.

Best of luck on her new hosting gig! That sounds exciting

Alina will not go to Test Skates:

https://fsrussia.ru/novosti-federat...v-kontrol-nykh-prokatakh-sbornoj-komandy.html

Pretty much puts her competing this year at a 0 chance.