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Didn’t Bradie actually beat Alina at GPF, and Mariah beat Alina in one of the events in the LP.
That's exactly what I'm pointing out - if Bradie was born in Russia and didn't develop fast enough, she wouldn't stand a chance to beat anybody in international events at 21yo. Americal girls I've watched in latest test skates have that chance.
 
That's exactly what I'm pointing out - if Bradie was born in Russia and didn't develop fast enough, she wouldn't stand a chance to beat anybody in international events at 21yo. Americal girls I've watched in latest test skates have that chance.
If my grandmother had balls would have been my grandfather. There is no point to have ifs here. IF she was in Russia she would have learned 3-3 at 10, if you want to go in this direction.
 
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I was also surprised seeing the performances and scores of the medalists at Nebelhorn and thinking that it's a very different level of competition compared to what the russians have to do to get those placements in local comps. 😳
Things are much different in many European countries. Skaters here often times can call themselves lucky just for getting one hour of ice time per day. Not every country is unfortunately accommodating towards athletes' training schedules and skaters have to attend school full time, meaning 8AM till 4PM (at least in Germany) and then they have to fight with hockey players over ice time, in the afternoon/evening, a battle which skaters most of the time lose. And funding is non-existent. In Germany skaters either have to join the army or apply for financial help from non-profit sport organizations in order to be able to cover the training costs. Katarina Witt spoke about this issue a few years ago. So it is not surprising that the level of skaters is not that deep outside of Russia. Football is the holy sport here.
 
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If my grandmother had balls would have been my grandfather. There is no point to have ifs here. IF she was in Russia she would have learned 3-3 at 10, if you want to go in this direction.
I would say there are plenty interesting discussions based on ifs, maybe they're just not your cup of tea, in which case you may consider staying away from them to not waste your time or good mood. :cool:
 
I would say there are plenty interesting discussions based on ifs, maybe they're just not your cup of tea, in which case you may consider staying away from them to not waste your time or good mood. :cool:

Thanks for your concern but thanks god my mood doesn't depend on this forum. As I said I mainly write here as a way to practice written English.
 
The turn around was quick definitely, but a few months is misleading. Jr RusNats was the beginning of February, and Aliona first competed for Sambo (and performed very well) in September, RusNats was in December. Impressive still, so saying a few months really isn't necessary.

Aliona had the jumps and skating skills, but her packaging was so wrong and no consistency either. Also, it was like they never practiced holding spins before. The most funny part of the story is her step sequences in her programs were all so so so so long. No wonder her skating skills are wonderful! The biggest vote of confidence in my opinion is the fact that Eteri put in the effort to make two absolutely incredible programs for the skater that came 17th at Junior Nationals as soon as she joined.

side note: In this video you can see an almost clean performance with two -3T combos in 2016:


Also, I saw the Jr RusNats SP, and they really low-balled her. Gave her an underrotated 3F-3T which looked clean, and hardly any GOE across the board.
Little Kostornaia was so cute! Is this performance before or after she joined Tutberidze's team? I don't see the extreme leg wrap that I now associate with her axel (only a little bit on the flip). All this time, I thought her leg wrap was an old bad habit, from her novice days, that Tut's team had to deal with. Not one that was developed during her time with her. So weird.
 
Things are much different in many European countries. Skaters here often times can call themselves lucky just for getting one hour of ice time per day. Not every country is unfortunately accommodating towards athletes' training schedules and skaters have to attend school full time, meaning 8AM till 4PM (at least in Germany) and then they have to fight with hockey players over ice time, in the afternoon/evening, a battle which skaters most of the time lose. And funding is non-existent. In Germany skaters either have to join the army or apply for financial help from non-profit sport organizations in order to be able to cover the training costs. Katarina Witt spoke about this issue a few years ago. So it is not surprising that the level of skaters is not that deep outside of Russia. Football is the holy sport here.
Not diminishing the acomplishments or scores of these skaters in any way.
Just pointing out that the russians really are on a league of their own when it comes to the technical aspect.
 
Does anyone know the complete list of ladies at this week’s cup of Russia? (Sorry if it’s already been posted but I’ve been avoiding this thread due to the fighting and back-and-forth and edge discussions).
 
Does anyone know the complete list of ladies at this week’s cup of Russia? (Sorry if it’s already been posted but I’ve been avoiding this thread due to the fighting and back-and-forth and edge discussions).
Competition is next weekend (10-13), so the full list isn't out yet. So far it's Trusova, Medvedeva, Valieva, and Konstantinova in seniors and Petrosyan and Osokina in juniors. I did see a website that listed Berestovskaya and Muravyeva as well but I'm not sure how reliable that is.
 
Competition is next weekend (10-13), so the full list isn't out yet. So far it's Trusova, Medvedeva, Valieva, and Konstantinova in seniors and Petrosyan and Osokina in juniors. I did see a website that listed Berestovskaya and Muravyeva as well but I'm not sure how reliable that is.
Thanks! Yay, Adelia petrosyan!!! Is she keeping the program she had last season?
 
Delicious. That means nothing else than that Alina is "everyone". Fully complies with Eteri's credo: After the medal ceremony you are nothing again.

Pon and Ton met at the town square after a long quarantine... At some point Pon tells Ton, you know Son all this time was studying. No kidding? What did he studied? I don't know let me ask him. ...

He finds Son and asked him. What did you study all this time? Gnosology! replied Son. Gnosology? What is that?

Let me give you an example. Do you have a fish tank at home? Yes. So you like fish, water? Yes. Hence you like the sea? Yes. So you like the beach too? Yes. So you like women sunbathing on the beach too? yes. Hence you are a man!

Pon gets excited and runs back to Ton. Son, exquisite scientist my friend. What did he study common? Gnosology! Gnosology? What is that? Let me explain you with an example...

Do you have a fish tank at home? No. Then you are gay!
 
If my grandmother had balls would have been my grandfather. There is no point to have ifs here. IF she was in Russia she would have learned 3-3 at 10, if you want to go in this direction.

OMG this reminds me of this: :ROFLMAO:
 
Little Kostornaia was so cute! Is this performance before or after she joined Tutberidze's team? I don't see the extreme leg wrap that I now associate with her axel (only a little bit on the flip). All this time, I thought her leg wrap was an old bad habit, from her novice days, that Tut's team had to deal with. Not one that was developed during her time with her. So weird.
her current air position in her 2A is most likely due to being so comfortable with it. when you first learn a jump, you might have a tighter air position due to trying to get the rotation, but obviously hers became so big and floaty, it doesn't require that tight of a position anymore. in her 3A, you can see the difference.
 
her current air position in her 2A is most likely due to being so comfortable with it. when you first learn a jump, you might have a tighter air position due to trying to get the rotation, but obviously hers became so big and floaty, it doesn't require that tight of a position anymore. in her 3A, you can see the difference.
I'm so weirded out by Kostornaia's "leg wrap" discussion lol. Apparently, people really think it's tangential to the rest of the jump mechanics, and it doesn't really matter if you're jumping big. Guess they would rather see a small jump with tight air position? Even weirder is when someone says a skater "needs" to jump big lmao, whatever that's even supposed to mean.
 
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