Brian Joubert - "French Star is a Global Sensation"

[GoldMedalist]

It's funny. Has anyone felt as I did, because I've always felt that Joubert gets severely undermarked by the judges. After all, if the article is correct, he completed one quad and 7 triples, which I don't think is quite how much Lambiel did for instance, so why should he have been placed third and get ciritized for a supposedly terrible perforamce? I felt the same about this olympic perforamces as well becuase I don't think he fell once either in his long or his short. He just had a few stumbles that he checked so he didn't fall on his butt, so what is going on here?

He fell in his Olympic LP in addition to 4 other mistakes. It wasn't horrible, though, considering he attempted the hardest jump layout of anyone at the Olympics.

Anyway, Joubert's jumps at Worlds were strong but not his best (turned second Quad into a Triple, turned 3Sal into a double axel). His spins were watered down, his footwork was not nearly as great as what Takahashi and Lambiel produced, and his performance as a whole was not inspired. His SP did not make up for that, especially since Takahashi was under-marked in the SP in the first place.

Lambiel did three quads

2.

I'll

if Lambiel ever does 3 quads in a program.

Did Daisuke get some extra points inthe "Other International Competitions" category?

Yes.

Why do I have a feeling that the athletes will be pocketing less than the full bonus?

It's always like that. No athlete or actor ever gets the full paycheck. The "handlers" will take their cut.

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

All the above are how fans talk about the Technical. Am I correct

There are PCS scores which I would gladly get rid of and just turn off the music. It really wouldn't be necessary. Not with more than one Quad. Would it?

Joe

 

[hockeyfan228]

I'm not sure how Lambiel could do three quads in a program when he only has the quad toe.

Goebel had toe and salchow; Joubert did as well. Wasn't Klimkin the first to have more than two different quads? (I don't know if he did three, and I'm not having any luck finding a Jr. Worlds program on YouTube.) I know Dambier had quad Salchow, but I don't see where he also had 4T.

The criteria for determining World Ranking for bonuses is:

1. Ranking in World Championships (or Olympic Games), whichever is higher.

2. Best and second-best scores at Grand Prix/Grand Prix Finals (Jr. or Sr.)

3. Selected International Competition, which is defined as having a minimum number of ISU officials.

It is not every event in which the skater entered; a skater could have two GP firsts and one GPF first, and only two count.

 

[cassieandcheetah]

All the above are how fans talk about the Technical. Am I correct

There are PCS scores which I would gladly get rid of and just turn off the music. It really wouldn't be necessary. Not with more than one Quad. Would it?

Joe

That's so true...nowadays I feel like PCS and the technical score are totally interdependent of each other...How do you make sense of Mao Asada getting higher PCS than Yu-Na Kim at this year's worlds...(or was that the case I'm not 100% sure, but I think they were pretty close...)

 

[slutskayafan21]

It's funny. Has anyone felt as I did, because I've always felt that Joubert gets severely undermarked by the judges. After all, if the article is correct, he completed one quad and 7 triples, which I don't think is quite how much Lambiel did for instance, so why should he have been placed third and get ciritized for a supposedly terrible perforamce? I felt the same about this olympic perforamces as well becuase I don't think he fell once either in his long or his short. He just had a few stumbles that he checked so he didn't fall on his butt, so what is going on here? I'm not a huge fan of him by any means, and I much prefer Lambiel's artistry to Brian's masculinity, but I honestly don't think Brian's that bad a skater...No one takes time to praise him unless he's perfect and produces three quads in one program.....

I totally disagree with everything you just said. Joubert is in fact ridiculously overmarked with outrageously high PCS considering his much simpler choreography and less polished skating, as well as inflated GOE particularly for his spins and footwork.

At the Olympics he missed alot of jumps in the free skate, so I dont known what your watching. In the short program he made a mistake, but didnt fall on his butt, but the 3 guys who finished ahead of him also didnt fall on their butt.

At the Worlds he sure as heck did not deserve higher then 3rd in the free skate. Again the judges were very generous with inflated PCS and GOE to keep him from being in more danger.

 

[slutskayafan21]

It dies seem like, In the new judging system, it's quad or bust. Lambiel did three quads and a triple Axel. Takahashi did 1 quad and two triple Axels.

Lambel did two quads, not three, and fell/stumbled out of 1. Takahashi put his hand down on his only quad.

 

[leode]

I am puzzled and confused, too.

Joubert got 1200 points for winning worlds, to Takahashi's 1150.

Joubert got 800 points fore winning the Grand Prix Final, to Takahashi's 775.

Joubert won both of his GP events, while takahashi got a first and a second.

Did Daisuke get some extra points inthe "Other International Competitions" category?

Takahashi placed 1st at the Winter Universiade Invernale Torino 2007 and got extra points. Joubert couldn't attend it.

 

[Mathman]

I just got an email from Stephane Lambiel. Stepharino (as his friends affectionately call him) told me he is bored with all those three-quad performances he did last year, and this year he plans four.

 

[Hsuhs]

Now 5, anyone?

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Turn off the music (leave it to the girls) and let the MEN show their prowess in the figure skating limited jumps except for air rotations. It's time for the Quint, and who really cares if the skater can do anything else?

Joe