Maybe french masters?
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And Shabotova I believe now trains in CSKA.I remember even commenting on a familiar Russian trainer's face with a Russian skater not competiting for Russia, but cannot remember on which board.
Anyway, if Sinitsyna isn't declared for starting in Russian Cup, she is gone for the season.
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Yes, Mishin is chief trainer of "Star Ice" http://fskating.spb.ru/catalog under СПБ ГБУ СШОР "Звездный лед"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Kuzmenko has both Panova and Moyseyeva listed, so it must be at the latest event where Kuzmenko competed. There surely must be video of that. But Kuzmina isn't in the protocols: https://csndg.org/resultats/Masters2020/, and there no 2019 or 2020 results.
No, probably some Russian local even, since there are still quite a lot of skaters listed to Panova: https://allskaters.info/snezhnye_barsy/ , including Shabotova.
No, probably some Russian local even, since there are still quite a lot of skaters listed to Panova: https://allskaters.info/snezhnye_barsy/ , including Shabotova.
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Many teams rent ice in several countries. But i want to know if there is a medical team for skaters or enough money to get skaters treated abroad (like in Germany where many Russians go).
I think that skaters get seriously injured either because they get minor injuries which aren't well healed and get worse, or because there is too much pressure in training when big competitions/spots are in sight.
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Fair is foul, and foul is fair
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I can’t believe how passionate people are about some fictional characters
Lokhart was initially perceived as a rather nice and kind person, as a hero, inventor, he had armys of fans, was loved by everyone, including main characters, even up to last minute. We then start to learn little by little what he truly is and it finishes off with a grand finale of him revealing who he truly is. That’s the story.
The rest I’m not even going to botherpoor Rowling knowingly had her main character name his kid after his abuser, yeah, that’s the message of the book.
Oh, well...
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It's probably not even the money, since the ice hockey clubs are probably more wealthy anyway, but at the home rink in Reutov, there is apparently little ice available for figure skating.
At least, this was always the reason/excuse given.
Kseniya Sinitsyna hasn't posted anything on her social media for weeks, months already: sinitsynaksiushaKseniia Sinitsyna
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From my memory from many years ago (somebody can correct me).Fair is foul, and foul is fair
"Where shall we three meet again
In thunder, lightning, or in rain?
When the hurlyburly's done,
When the battle's lost and won.
That will be ere the set of sun.
Where the place?
Upon the heath.
There to meet with Macbeth.
I come Graymalkin!
Paddock calls.
Anon.
Fair is foul, and foul is fair:
Hover through the fog and filthy air. "
(I tried to learn the first page so I had a bunch of quotes for the witches)
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Woops, looks like I missed a messageWell, but to be fair, she might have different reasons for that.... I have a feeling she and her team are trying to sweep all the accusations under the rug. So, drawing attention to herself by being dramatic over students leaving would be the last thing she‘d do right now. I might be wrong about that, though, idk.
I think it’s interesting (and pretty sad) that there’s not as much discussion about her actions as a whole. From what I’ve read she did some pretty horrible stuff and all her students are leaving her left and right....
Edit: as for the only Russian coaches create drama. Well, Brian was rather dramatic when Yuna left him, I‘d say. That was one big mess and he came out of it looking petty and unprofessional. The difference is just that he learned from it and has acted better recently. Russian coaches don’t seem to do the same.
You‘re... not? Good for you.
Yup, the whole discussion is irrelevant. Obviously so. (the only thing I’m taking away from it is that we have a vastly different idea of which behavior is acceptable for teachers and people in position of power over kids lol) But if you weren‘t interested at all, it might have been better to ignore the post entirely, instead of arguing against it only to then ignore all following arguments. Might have saved us both some time. Anyways: Have a good day.
We surely do have a different idea of that.
So, for “ignoring arguments”, I already answered to your “arguments” previously, and I asked you to reread again attentively, as you didn’t add anything new with a new message, but perhaps that was too much to ask. Was trying to save myself some time
I find this “discussion” (I have no idea why you had so much to say to 1 sentence of mine
) quite ridiculous and uninteresting. But it shows something: that some people are ready to go all bananas to prove someone’s opinion wrong writing novels even on topics as silly as HP. Sorry, but seems like a rather personal problem some people have here.
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Well it would not look good for her if she acted up now considering the accusations against her, some of them involving the students that left her recently.
Hamada has a fair share of her own interviews in which she dragged her skaters even when they were still with her. During the 2017-18 season when Marin was struggeling with injuries Hamada puplicly said that Marin is too lazy, an accusation that haunts Marin to this day, many love to quote this interview and use it as "proof" that Marin is not hardworking enough. After that season Marin left her by the way.
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Mie Hamada critcizes skaters who are still with her. It is equally terrible, but different in motivation. (It is actually surprising common in Japan to gossip about people behind their backs with the hope the criticism reaches them and makes them change... it is a cultural concept I can't really understand) I am not defending Mie Hamada. I don't think she should be allowed to continue coaching.
But, in terms of insulting skaters when they leave you, Russian coaches still reign supreme. Apparently, attacking children on social media is ok with their federation since nothing ever happens to them.
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On a more positive note I find myself intrigued about Sergei Dudakov, he seems like such a level headed coach who focuses on his students and never mind the drama. What's his story? Was he a skater as a child? How long has he been coaching? Was he at Sambo-70 before Eteri setup Crystal or did she hire him? (Does Eteri hire people directly? Or does it all go through the head of Sambo?)
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I do get what Nussnacker means in the world of the book Lockhart was considered all these things. To us, the readers there was lots of evidence that he was actually dodgy, but Mrs Weasley for example probably didn't realise until the very end!
Oh, well...
Meanwhile, everyone but Dumbledore was sure Snape was out and out evil, it turns out he wasn't, although his views on Muggles and muggle born wizards seemed not to have changed so much as he was personally angry at Voldemort. If Neville and his parents had been picked as the threat by Voldemort would Snape still be on the side of good? Hard to say, but it raises interesting questions, like "As long as someone is fighting for good do their reasons for it matter so much?"
Ha ha this is probably stuff for the Literature thread, I think there's one around here somewhere...
He and Urmanov are my favorite Russian coaches - they don't seek out drama and seem level-headed with their skaters.
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Oh yeah now you mention it I do vaguely remember hearing he was a skater...or at least I tried to find him on YouTube, alas I could not. I'm always intrigued at seeing coaches from their competitive skating years (if they had them) just to see how they skated. It's a fun insight!
Are there any videos of Eteri competing I wonder...
Not a competition but she's in this video. https://youtu.be/_ORvtyOaD1k
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These quotes from the Russian FSO forum. These received more likes as Kamila's 3A post. All of them with google translate
"After reading both interviews, what can I say? Well done, Evgeny Viktorovich, that he finally voiced everything that we grinded more than once at the forum, and about the headquarters favorite of the Federation, and about the judges' marks. I just can't understand FFKR, why "put all your eggs in one basket", what's the point? After all, life and the history of sports have taught us all more than once that today there is only one coach on horseback, and tomorrow an athlete and not one of the other TShs can shoot, but our Federation, with manic obstinacy, does not notice anyone else, unfortunately.
Yes, EV is as always harsh and frank, but that's why his fans loved and still love him."
"I know girls who came with posters about dishonest refereeing, and these people have nothing to do with Plushenko. Not to mention that the screaming and whistling began even before the girls' performance, or rather because of the assessment of Samarin, who, as far as I know, is still not training with Tutberidze.
Dirt is what the FFKR has turned figure skating into over the past few years. And do not be surprised that ordinary FC spectators have reached the boiling point.
It seems to me that the only thing that is clear here is that Plushenko will never be silent. In principle, he has no such option. Phaedra won't shut him up
Rather, it will shut up, in only one way, as in PP Trusova. When all the sisters have earrings.
And you cannot apply any undercover methods to him.
It is from this that Phaedra will have to proceed in making decisions.
If Plushenko wants to drown the athletes, everyone will drown, as they correctly put it above.
And Eteri's athletes too. And Eteri herself.
And he will name the judges next time. Only now did he restrain himself. For he believes that the issue has been resolved.
Phaedra needs such problems pzhl. The owner is a master."
"Well, maybe the rest will finally have well-deserved f on flots and under-rotations. It seems to me that there should be impartial judging for everyone. Even if an athlete has freaky programs and his fingers reach out and from the heart to the soul he and his images sink into the soul, but there are technical flaws, then they should be noted. Everyone has. Then there will be fewer questions and more motivation to work with bugs. If you do not straighten the edge, then at least fight for the twists, maximum levels and quality of elements.
"If they put it to everyone, I am in favor. Both Usacheva flots and Valieva's cascade are minus. And the components are not 10.
And yes, silence is a dead end. We must fight for our own, and not be silent in a rag.
I love Plushenko) cuts the truth-uterus, without looking back at anyone. In plain text about the agreement. Well, right. Someone had to voice it all, not all amateurs on the forums to grind.
I readily believe that the EP and his wife have proposed peace. Peace did not work out - here you will. But the truth will be announced next time - which of the judges rolls up whom. And maybe not only will sound. It is high time for the TCD, the judiciary and the FFKR to check for corruption.
I am sure that soon Plushenko-coach will be aboard one of the stars of FC. Then I'll look at all his defenders."
"Any of the talented well-known students (as well as the less talented and unknown ones) has the right to leave Plushenko (and any other coach, regardless of his experience, fame, promotion and recognition by the wide masses), if he considers that he is not suitable for her (him) the coach, does not satisfy her (him) in this capacity, and because of personal conflict too.
Someone wants Eugene not to take place as a coach because of his personal hostility to him - it happens. Not even a pity for talented athletes. Well, well, this kind of love for sports also happens.
We will try to respect people for their work, including children-athletes.
I would be glad if Evgeny becomes a good coach, if Sasha and Alena succeed in improving their skills, if other talented children grow up in the AP and win medals of various tests.
However, I will be glad if Eteri Georgievna succeeds in restoring Zhenya and demonstrating that she can work with adult athletes for a long time and successfully, if Kamila delights the audience with brilliant, error-free performances and many other talented successful children appear.
And let Sergey Davydov and other coaches make worthy competition. What's wrong with a large number of successful schools and coaches?
Is it so difficult to root for your favorite athlete (or even a coach) without humiliating his rivals?"
"So Sasha's merits with Eteri are Volkov's merits for 2 years and only a year of Eteri herself and that is not very successful, did I understand the idea correctly?"
"Sorry, but non-skillful people don't come to Eteri either. We are not taking the younger group yet. We will look at their success later. An athlete, like a sponge, takes new skills from different coaches. And that's okay. At each new place of work, we learn something new from colleagues and circumstances. Why are Eteri's results praised and the base not taken into account? Which she didn't give Eteri raised Shcherbakova from childhood (and then sent triples to teach) and Zhenya. But both are buggy, not flawless. She is certainly a good coach, but what is being wrapped around her is already beyond the bounds. Naturally, it is too early to judge which coach Plushenko is, but the fact that they work there is a fact. Of course, real changes in technology and other things take time. Everyone is talking about this: Harutyunyan, Orser, other specialists. And therefore, it is completely wrong to exaggerate the merits of one coach and not take
calculation of the other. Of course, now Sasha should still have flashbacks in the training process from TShT. This is normal. But the main merit is her own. Because not every athlete can learn so much."
"I do not deny Eteri's contribution to the careers of Alena and Sasha. But let's not deny another thing - two well-trained athletes came to her with all triples. Outstanding girls with great potential. For the disclosure of which there was not enough a) stability and b) those resources in the form of mushrooms that Tutberidze has. These girls SOUNED even before the transition to Eteri - they were both noted for their special talent - they did not drag out their unhappy existence in the backyards of the world, from where they got out only thanks to the supreme grace of Eteri. That is, two strong athletes with great opportunities and outstanding abilities passed to her."
"By the way, yes. Davydov, of course, tried to blame everything on Frolova's mistakes in an interview, only he talked about some little things on which he can get 5 points, okay, 10, if we assume that there is a difference in these little things on literally every element. .. but 30 ??? Was Frolova deducted 20 points for the fall?"
"Even before the appearance, so to speak, in this struggle (there was already a school, but the super-top of the women's fc did not concern) Plushenko wrote many times that the skaters of one staff are judged as if according to different rules and obviously in other corridors".
"Eteri inflated a soap bubble and Plushenko took out a needle"
"The most interesting thing is that these bugs begin to notice exactly when the athletes leave this wonderful TShT. An example of Medvedeva and her flots will help you. I am very sorry that she did not perform at Megasport, it would be interesting to see how in three weeks she would have miraculously "corrected" the rib again.
Such conclusions are also surprising) But most of all I am interested in why Dasha is so superior to Anya Frolova by as much as 30 points (!) With similar content, not the highest quality of cogs and similar problems with lutz. Do all component juniors get OCH grades in CP, and in the PP the scores are higher than 2 times the World Cup, and this is without ultrasi?"
"After reading both interviews, what can I say? Well done, Evgeny Viktorovich, that he finally voiced everything that we grinded more than once at the forum, and about the headquarters favorite of the Federation, and about the judges' marks. I just can't understand FFKR, why "put all your eggs in one basket", what's the point? After all, life and the history of sports have taught us all more than once that today there is only one coach on horseback, and tomorrow an athlete and not one of the other TShs can shoot, but our Federation, with manic obstinacy, does not notice anyone else, unfortunately.
Yes, EV is as always harsh and frank, but that's why his fans loved and still love him."
"I know girls who came with posters about dishonest refereeing, and these people have nothing to do with Plushenko. Not to mention that the screaming and whistling began even before the girls' performance, or rather because of the assessment of Samarin, who, as far as I know, is still not training with Tutberidze.
Dirt is what the FFKR has turned figure skating into over the past few years. And do not be surprised that ordinary FC spectators have reached the boiling point.
It seems to me that the only thing that is clear here is that Plushenko will never be silent. In principle, he has no such option. Phaedra won't shut him up
Rather, it will shut up, in only one way, as in PP Trusova. When all the sisters have earrings.
And you cannot apply any undercover methods to him.
It is from this that Phaedra will have to proceed in making decisions.
If Plushenko wants to drown the athletes, everyone will drown, as they correctly put it above.
And Eteri's athletes too. And Eteri herself.
And he will name the judges next time. Only now did he restrain himself. For he believes that the issue has been resolved.
Phaedra needs such problems pzhl. The owner is a master."
"Well, maybe the rest will finally have well-deserved f on flots and under-rotations. It seems to me that there should be impartial judging for everyone. Even if an athlete has freaky programs and his fingers reach out and from the heart to the soul he and his images sink into the soul, but there are technical flaws, then they should be noted. Everyone has. Then there will be fewer questions and more motivation to work with bugs. If you do not straighten the edge, then at least fight for the twists, maximum levels and quality of elements.
"If they put it to everyone, I am in favor. Both Usacheva flots and Valieva's cascade are minus. And the components are not 10.
And yes, silence is a dead end. We must fight for our own, and not be silent in a rag.
I love Plushenko) cuts the truth-uterus, without looking back at anyone. In plain text about the agreement. Well, right. Someone had to voice it all, not all amateurs on the forums to grind.
I readily believe that the EP and his wife have proposed peace. Peace did not work out - here you will. But the truth will be announced next time - which of the judges rolls up whom. And maybe not only will sound. It is high time for the TCD, the judiciary and the FFKR to check for corruption.
I am sure that soon Plushenko-coach will be aboard one of the stars of FC. Then I'll look at all his defenders."
"Any of the talented well-known students (as well as the less talented and unknown ones) has the right to leave Plushenko (and any other coach, regardless of his experience, fame, promotion and recognition by the wide masses), if he considers that he is not suitable for her (him) the coach, does not satisfy her (him) in this capacity, and because of personal conflict too.
Someone wants Eugene not to take place as a coach because of his personal hostility to him - it happens. Not even a pity for talented athletes. Well, well, this kind of love for sports also happens.
We will try to respect people for their work, including children-athletes.
I would be glad if Evgeny becomes a good coach, if Sasha and Alena succeed in improving their skills, if other talented children grow up in the AP and win medals of various tests.
However, I will be glad if Eteri Georgievna succeeds in restoring Zhenya and demonstrating that she can work with adult athletes for a long time and successfully, if Kamila delights the audience with brilliant, error-free performances and many other talented successful children appear.
And let Sergey Davydov and other coaches make worthy competition. What's wrong with a large number of successful schools and coaches?
Is it so difficult to root for your favorite athlete (or even a coach) without humiliating his rivals?"
"So Sasha's merits with Eteri are Volkov's merits for 2 years and only a year of Eteri herself and that is not very successful, did I understand the idea correctly?"
"Sorry, but non-skillful people don't come to Eteri either. We are not taking the younger group yet. We will look at their success later. An athlete, like a sponge, takes new skills from different coaches. And that's okay. At each new place of work, we learn something new from colleagues and circumstances. Why are Eteri's results praised and the base not taken into account? Which she didn't give Eteri raised Shcherbakova from childhood (and then sent triples to teach) and Zhenya. But both are buggy, not flawless. She is certainly a good coach, but what is being wrapped around her is already beyond the bounds. Naturally, it is too early to judge which coach Plushenko is, but the fact that they work there is a fact. Of course, real changes in technology and other things take time. Everyone is talking about this: Harutyunyan, Orser, other specialists. And therefore, it is completely wrong to exaggerate the merits of one coach and not take
calculation of the other. Of course, now Sasha should still have flashbacks in the training process from TShT. This is normal. But the main merit is her own. Because not every athlete can learn so much."
"I do not deny Eteri's contribution to the careers of Alena and Sasha. But let's not deny another thing - two well-trained athletes came to her with all triples. Outstanding girls with great potential. For the disclosure of which there was not enough a) stability and b) those resources in the form of mushrooms that Tutberidze has. These girls SOUNED even before the transition to Eteri - they were both noted for their special talent - they did not drag out their unhappy existence in the backyards of the world, from where they got out only thanks to the supreme grace of Eteri. That is, two strong athletes with great opportunities and outstanding abilities passed to her."
"By the way, yes. Davydov, of course, tried to blame everything on Frolova's mistakes in an interview, only he talked about some little things on which he can get 5 points, okay, 10, if we assume that there is a difference in these little things on literally every element. .. but 30 ??? Was Frolova deducted 20 points for the fall?"
"Even before the appearance, so to speak, in this struggle (there was already a school, but the super-top of the women's fc did not concern) Plushenko wrote many times that the skaters of one staff are judged as if according to different rules and obviously in other corridors".
"Eteri inflated a soap bubble and Plushenko took out a needle"
"The most interesting thing is that these bugs begin to notice exactly when the athletes leave this wonderful TShT. An example of Medvedeva and her flots will help you. I am very sorry that she did not perform at Megasport, it would be interesting to see how in three weeks she would have miraculously "corrected" the rib again.
Such conclusions are also surprising) But most of all I am interested in why Dasha is so superior to Anya Frolova by as much as 30 points (!) With similar content, not the highest quality of cogs and similar problems with lutz. Do all component juniors get OCH grades in CP, and in the PP the scores are higher than 2 times the World Cup, and this is without ultrasi?"
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^ The fans can say whatever they want, Plushenko can say whatever he wants. Nothing will change. This system has grown over decades, it will not change overnight. Plushenko fights windmills. At best, he will only achieve preferences for his students, which I also doubt. Good luck to him.
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