2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Arbitrary]

Looks like a forced trick - an attempt to push her up further. Would Anna really was 38C , she'd never skate Gala.
Also doing quads in not fully clear mind is beyond dangerous.

 

[FelineFairy]

38 degrees fever. Did you see the thermometer? Parents and trainers let skate with 38 degrees SP and just don't measure before FS? Hasn't it been explained in detail here in the forum how intelligent and responsible parents and coaches are? And what about the pneumonia, which TT said was temporarily bronchitis? Don't bother me with all these dubious statements.

You obviously didn't have covid, and didn't witness it in your close relatives. Very frequently the PCR tests are negative if they are taken after the period of the virus' multiplication in the nose and throat. As for differential diagnosis between bronchitis and pneumonia, please ask doctors if it is always easy. The duration of post-covid effects can last for many months with sudden changes from subjectively healthy to falling apart. I felt much better with 37,8 than with 35,2. As it is not a medical forum, I will not continue.
My emphasis is on the difference between the federation's style which I also find unhealthy and inventing a plan with faking an illness. Can you name many skaters among the prominent ones, who we have enough information on, who were not ill during this season? All pairs, all dancers, almost all singles were. No inventions necessary.

 

[Scott512]

One thing I will say on this topic - don’t count out Rika Kihira! She is the only skater I can really see breaking into the Russian hegemony at this point. Her triple axel in the short puts her ahead of the girls (aside from Valieva and Kostornaia) that only do the double, and her quad Sal has also looked much stronger this year!

Agreed. What about YY and Alysa?

I just hope we have a world championship and Olympics on time where we can find out who-does-what in the big International competitions. Sadly it's all in great doubt because of the virus that just won't go away.

KV is being hit by puberty and still skating great and learning the 3A and improving her quads.

Anna and sasha are still at the very top of the sport and alyona could rejoin them if she gets her 3A back.

I still hope Zhenya gets healthy and skates at a very high level again.

 

[Gabby30]

You obviously didn't have covid, and didn't witness it in your close relatives. Very frequently the PCR tests are negative if they are taken after the period of the virus' multiplication in the nose and throat. As for differential diagnosis between bronchitis and pneumonia, please ask doctors if it is always easy. The duration of post-covid effects can last for many months with sudden changes from subjectively healthy to falling apart. I felt much better with 37,8 than with 35,2. As it is not a medical forum, I will not continue.
My emphasis is on the difference between the federation's style which I also find unhealthy and inventing a plan with faking an illness. Can you name many skaters among the prominent ones, who we have enough information on, who were not ill during this season? All pairs, all dancers, almost all singles were. No inventions necessary.

It's actually weird how people here make excuses for her and celebrating someone competing while being so sick. And at the same time blaming ISU and RusFed when skaters get sick It's sick people who make others sick, not federations and unions

 

[Alex65]

Lick your own wounds in private.

You are an awful rude person who revels in injustice. You do not have the right to tell anyone if someone wants to express their thoughts here.
Good luck to everyone, gentlemen

 

[kolyadafan2002]

One thing I want to point out is that measuring temperature next to an ice rink never yeilds accurate measurements. Once I had two thermometer readings in a row next to an ice rink - one was 42°C and one was 33°C. Either of those readings would indicate I was dead.

 

[Lzbee]

It's actually weird how people here make excuses for her and celebrating someone competing while being so sick. And at the same time blaming ISU and RusFed when skaters get sick It's sick people who make others sick, not federations and unions

That's actually a good point... Pneumonia is contagious when you have a fever... It's been a while since Anna first got it though so maybe not so for her any more.

 

[Scott512]

Oh I must have missed the 4th and 5th place ladies.

Shame Liza N wasn't invited! Liza Tuk needs some rest, but Liza N's on fire!

Nugu wasnt invited to the gala? Are you kidding me? Dummies.

 

[Novalis]

Nugu wasnt invited to the gala? Are you kidding me? Dummies.

That was a mistake. She was one of the highlights of the competition and she was one of the highlights of the Rostelecom cup Gala as well.

 

[colormyworld240]

Anna: lying about covid, faking illness and interviews, and now doping.

Aren’t there rules on here about false accusations and conspiracies?

Or are we still on the “it’s just pointing out her technical issues” train?

 

[Novalis]

You are an awful rude person who revels in injustice. You do not have the right to tell anyone if someone wants to express their thoughts here.
Good luck to everyone, gentlemen

I beg to disagree. Flanker's reply was well balanced considering Fried's recent behaviour here.

 

[flanker]

You are an awful rude person who revels in injustice. You do not have the right to tell anyone if someone wants to express their thoughts here.
Good luck to everyone, gentlemen

If you consider the original post (as well as 99 % of his recent other posts) decent, polite, well argumented and contributive, then take the same advice.

 

[nussnacker]

Anna: lying about covid, faking illness and interviews, and now doping.

Aren’t there rules on here about false accusations and conspiracies?

Or are we still on the “it’s just pointing out her technical issues” train?

Most of all, amongst those baseless conspiracies, those people also try to act as if they have some moral superiority somehow. SMH. The nerve! Truly a hypocrisy of unseen magnitude.

 

[SXTN]

I am more interested in a doping test than fever. The change was so abrupt that I would have liked to hear that she had a clean test, because as someone who had seen Ben Johnson run, my conspiracy theories went that a-way rather than the staged illness. It's just a simpler plot.

Unfortunately I also believe she would have withdrawn after the SP at an international competition. I don't know what magic tricks they did in the locker room before the FS

 

[flanker]

Most of all, amongst those baseless conspiracies, those people also try to act as if they have some moral superiority somehow. SMH. The nerve! Truly a hypocrisy of unseen magnitude.

They are not even consistent in their accusations. Just yesterday they were "right" about covid, today it is the greatest deception since the Operation Fortitude.

 

[Scott512]

That was a mistake. She was one of the highlights of the competition and she was one of the highlights of the Rostelecom cup Gala as well.

And I mean do we need to see the injured and previously covid or pneumonia skaters skate again when they need to rest and still recover because covid and pneumnia stay in your body aa long time? Nope.

Little Liza is improving the normal way in sports. Gradually and fighting for everything. Undescored again this event. Anyone really think Daria was 26 points better than Nugumanova? Nope. Another Evgeni (Rukavicin) needs to talk to the fed head about his ladies lower than deserved scores.

PS - Not that Dasha wasnt marginally better than Nugumanova. A case could be made she was. But by 26 points? Nyet to that! That EG bounce is real folks and Sasha and Aliona are finding that out the hard way.

 

[Fried]

Or are we still on the “it’s just pointing out her technical issues” train?

Technical issues? What technical issues? Didn't you see the protocols? Anna is now not only the queen of emotions, but also the queen of technology. Sasha should take an example!

 

[Scott512]

Unfortunately I also believe she would have withdrawn after the SP at an international competition. I don't know what magic tricks they did in the locker room before the FS

I try not to swear on sundays but WTF? Anna is 16 and a world class athlete. They bounce back faster than regular people. Assuming she did funny business is vile. Maybe she needed to SP to get back into normal skating shape. Practice is just that practice. It cant substitute for the real thing like at rusnats.

This girl was not withdrawing whether it was rusnats or a GP worlds olynpics or a challenger. Anna is not wired that way. She said her parents and coaches wanted her to withdraw. I bet her grandparents aunts and uncles and sisters wanted her to withdraw. Heck her cat Mafia probably wanted Anna to withdraw! But Anna did not want to withdraw. Case closed.

 

[trkvy]

 

[Scott512]

Gabby they

It's actually weird how people here make excuses for her and celebrating someone competing while being so sick. And at the same time blaming ISU and RusFed when skaters get sick It's sick people who make others sick, not federations and unions

Gabby they are competing long after they had pneumonia and covid not while they have it. There is a big difference. Anna and Liza just went back to work and they careers like doctors and nurses do after they had covid or pneumonia.