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So fully agreed
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Oh yeah Sasha did get a big push and alot ot attention from being the first quad queen and winning back to back junior worlds. It would well deserve without question.
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Then it was a misunderstanding. Your contribution was formulated in such a way that one had to assume that it was about the current season.
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Yeah agreed. I don't even think we disagree just disagree on the timing of it. I think it's fairly obvious that they were making changes. They already had made changes that year to previous requirements (like having to attend two cup stages before almost no one ended up being able to do that) and considering that almost their entire national team had to withdraw at one point or another from one thing or another, and considering the withdrawls from nationals itself, it was obvious that they were going to make more changes. They had to.Yes, a day or two before the competition they announced they would announce the new rules after the competition. I explained my stand already and I do not think this discussion will get us any further. So I'd rather agree to disagree and end it here, on friendly terms, of course
I mean you only had to look the men's withdrawls and only having two spot at worlds to know that they definitely weren't naming the world's team from national results. 3/4 European champions weren't there (and the ones that were B/K had to withdraw from a cup stage earlier).
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Yeah, I remember that. At least she pulled out from the free, but the damage could’ve already been done. I really wish that everyone involved in Russian Skating from the Federation to the coaches took safety precautions seriously. These athletes health should be most important!
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For me, it depends on her program. I loved her famous Girl on the Ball. Interestingly enough, I didn’t really like her free skate last year, but when she repeated it in exhibition just now, in comparison to her free skate this year that i can’t stomach, it looked so much better to me.
When people talk about the age and puberty, well, it doesn’t occur for everyone at the same time. To my eyes, Valieva had been slightly out of shape (for an agility athlete) at the beginning of the season, more impacted by puberty than Scherbakova or Trusova. She had regained shape for Rostelecom but noticeable changes to body comp like that are generally harder each time a woman forces it.
it is hard to say at the moment which of the ladies will be in the best shape at each point in the future and how it will impact their jumping portfolio. Imo, it’s simply impossible to tell.
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Absolutely. And the way TT is pushing her is just disgusting...
First - Medvedeva and Zagitova trained together under TT. Both seniors. Medvedeva left after that season.
Second - Kostornaya, Shcherbakova and Trusova trained together under TT. All seniors. Kostornaya and Trusova both left after that season.
Third - Next year both Shcherbakova and Valieva are competing internationally as seniors...
Why do skating fans constantly want skaters to be wrapped in cotton wool? Always acting like that extremely over protective mother who smothers their child. I've never seen any other sports fandom act like this (even gymnastics the most similar one to compare with).
Athletes in all sports compete with injuries and illness all the time. And it's not something forced on them by management/organization. It's something they forced themselves to do because it's what they want more than anything. They are not wired like normal people, they live on a different planet. .
Athletes in all sports compete with injuries and illness all the time. And it's not something forced on them by management/organization. It's something they forced themselves to do because it's what they want more than anything. They are not wired like normal people, they live on a different planet. .
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Now Anna had Covid after all. AsI said. The whole FC is a smearcomedy. Every second word a lie.
Александр Горшков: «Щербакова не нарушила никаких правил. Она давно болела коронавирусом, но сейчас был отрицательный тест»
Президент Федерации фигурного катания России ( ФФКР ) Александр Горшков прокомментировал ситуацию с выступлением Анны Щербаковой на чемпионате России.
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Plus, most probably, Usacheva and Khromykh....
As for the overhype, I must say it is one of the reasons I am not able to warm up to Kamila. Although she's obviously a talented young girl, her skating leaves me cold and uninterested. The overhype and all the pushing that surrounds her do not help, either.
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They have different layouts, when Sasha has to prepare 3+ quads it's a heavy burden. We now know about the injury for Rostelecom this year. Russian Nationals last year is the main competition she bombed, and Anna has messed up before too (although not for a long time). Also both have been nervous on the 3Lz-3Lo this year. Sasha preparing 1 type of quad repeated twice went clean first time despite not having perfect trainings either.
Kamila, I guess she "looks" nervous. But then she did what she has never done before, at the most difficult competition. She messed up the 3A and that was nerves so fair.
And Aliona never fell on a 3A once last year despite it being a new element. We remember Anna and Sasha falling on their quads when they started to jump them, it's understandable, but what Aliona did is unreal. We even kept seeing her fall and having bad practices! But never in competition.
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An abundance of gorgeous skating and nail-biting excitement seems to have triggered some really vile comments, simply oozing envy. I wonder whether those who are relegated to the "ignore" bins here can see just how many users have placed them there. Would be great, a sort-of inverse popularity contest in mental squalor, which just might give pause for some self-reflection. But probably not. Anyway, that was a marvellous weekend of figure-skating and I'm off for a nice meal of fried fish now 
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Yeah but Kamila is also 2 years younger than them (and almost 3 younger than Aliona) and Anna and Sasha were also never stable on their quads when they first started performing them (and even last year they weren't completely). Anna also has to prepare 2 times of quads (and 3 total at the end of last season). And Anna competed with a fever so it's not like she was healthy while preparing 2 quads either. And she also had difficult practices. Also both Sasha and Anna fell at the GPF on quads (Anna on her 4F and Sasha on her 4T (as well as popping her 4S).) Finally all 3 (Anna, Sasha, and Aliona) fell due to nerves/maybe even exhaustion at Euros. Anna on her 4Lz, Alena on her 3Lz, and Sasha on her 4Lz and 4T. All three have performed those programs cleanly before. So to say, none of them are immune to nerves is clearly wrong. All have fallen on their harder elements on competitions, not just Kamila.
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Don't say Anna had Covid, she had Pneumoniaaa!!!! Doesn't matter that her rink mates and coach had it, or that it was going through the figure skating community. Or that random pneumonia is more unlikely! How dare you presume her medical record. They said pneumonia therefore it's pneumonia.Now Anna had Covid after all. AsI said. The whole FC is a smearcomedy. Every second word a lie.
Александр Горшков: «Щербакова не нарушила никаких правил. Она давно болела коронавирусом, но сейчас был отрицательный тест»
Президент Федерации фигурного катания России ( ФФКР ) Александр Горшков прокомментировал ситуацию с выступлением Анны Щербаковой на чемпионате России.www.sports.ru
Of course questions are asked on what's being done when there's a skater with a fever (a main symptom of Covid), so finally it's revealed Anna had Covid a while ago. It's good to know there was no risk to other skaters of transmission. Although obviously Valieva should not have been at that Stage competition/Rostelecom, I don't remember which one was around the same time. Putting everyone's health at risk with that action.
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The one thing that Kamila is weak at, much like Sasha but not quiet as bad, is her facial expression.
Her body expresses beautifully but her face just looks like a frightened deer in the headlights. Only exception last 3s of her FS yesterday. She's just too young and nervous still, next year it may already be a different story.
That's sth Anna has really mastered, she emotes beautifully with face and body this season.
People said she would grow and lose all her tech cause she was so frail and "weak looking" 1 year ago- instead her body's growth has made her lines more beautiful and her movements more expressive. To me she's a ladies skater now, not a quad jumping kid.
Her body expresses beautifully but her face just looks like a frightened deer in the headlights. Only exception last 3s of her FS yesterday. She's just too young and nervous still, next year it may already be a different story.
That's sth Anna has really mastered, she emotes beautifully with face and body this season.
People said she would grow and lose all her tech cause she was so frail and "weak looking" 1 year ago- instead her body's growth has made her lines more beautiful and her movements more expressive. To me she's a ladies skater now, not a quad jumping kid.
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Yeah Ted also said she had COVID earlier. It doesn't mean she didn't have pneumonia. COVID can lead to pneumonia.Now Anna had Covid after all. AsI said. The whole FC is a smearcomedy. Every second word a lie.
Александр Горшков: «Щербакова не нарушила никаких правил. Она давно болела коронавирусом, но сейчас был отрицательный тест»
Президент Федерации фигурного катания России ( ФФКР ) Александр Горшков прокомментировал ситуацию с выступлением Анны Щербаковой на чемпионате России.www.sports.ru
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Frankly, Gorshkov is just repeating what people aroud say and what he reads in the news (far from doing that for the first time). Exactly as you mentioned, even Ted said "she's recovering from covid", simply because people make quick jump: sick? = means covid.
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Yeah, it doesn't change the fact that she didn't break any rules by competing here.Frankly, Gorshkov is just repeating what people aroud say and what he reads in the news (far from doing that for the first time). Exactly as you mentioned, even Ted said "she's recovering from covid", simply because people make quick jump: sick? = means covid.
It also doesn't change the fact that she should have withdrawn but that's also true for the entire national team. (Literally the entire Euros/Worlds Russian teams and most alternates.)
It also doesn't take away from the stunning, magical moment she produced yesterday.
EDIT: Those are all not mutually exclusive statements.
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I know, but as far as I can remember there was talk of pneumonia and bronchitis. However, it was expressly emphasized every time that Anna was not infected with Covid. So it was deliberately lied. Apparently so that nobody has to be quarantined. In retrospect, that would explain Layshev's faux pas when he told the press that Eteri was training online. He probably had the information about Covid, but not the information that Covid is officially not a Covid.
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Yeah, but I remember people being bashed here for even as much as suggesting it might have been COVID related. Which, it seems, it was, after all. That's why.
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