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Wasn't the federation paying for her training with Plushenko? She is a national team member, they're all funded. Unless Plushenko is charging a lot more than the state funded coaches, which I don't think he was.
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Wow how can anyone tell who these ladies are? You guys have wonderful eyes.2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
So if I'm understanding everything correctly, Aliona is now reportedly accepted by Eteri again whilst Rozanov stays at AOP, right? It really makes me wonder who has the magic that once brought Aliona to her best. Was it Rozanov, or Eteri, or the overall intense training environment at Eteri's...www.goldenskate.com
I can only recognize An and Berestovskaya, only because Veronika An has the same clothes as the other video and there's a close-up of Liza B.
Interesting that Kostyleva is there though, I guess she's officially transferred.
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So much agreed. Shall we compare final layback from her performance at the beginning of February for fun and enrichment? I am obsessed with the particular pacing of the left hand as it ascends and then gradually spirals down. Faster on the way up, slower on the way down, gradually decelerates on the way down as the hand approaches her torso:
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"Angina" (tonsillitis) is specifically inflammation of the tonsils. It is often bacterial, but may be viral. It's usually pretty nasty and looks it. A more common cause of sore throat is inflammation of the back of the throat which is usually viral. Aliona probably had bacterial tonsillitis which is a bigger deal than viral and can cause complications.
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Zhilinas are currently coached by their mother who seems to think she knows best. So it doesn't seem particularly likely. I actually wouldn't mind the sisters being pried from her grasp because teaching your own kids is rarely a good idea and she does not seem to be good for Veronika psychologically.
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I definitely don't think their mom coaching them as the primary coach is a good idea at all. With Veronika's talent I'm sure she'd be good with most coaches, but what she really needs is someone who can help her build mental strength. Even with Eteri she was a bit of an inconsistent skater (not so much so as this season, but she is adding much more difficult content now). So yeah, she really needs a coach who can help her gain mental strength because she can definitely land those quads and 3As and lutzes.
The post below quotes Daniil as saying things are related to contracts and financial details. Based on Plushenko's comments that he would start looking at contracts for his skaters, my assumption is that this is tied to the endorsement deals that Plushenko solicited for Kostornaia. Its always been widely discussed that Eteri or Sambo gets a pretty good percentage of any endorsement deals that her skaters have; I've never heard anything said about Plushenko but I wonder if there's an issue that Plushenko contractually gets a cut, Eteri's standard agreement requires she get a cut and then what does that leave for Kostornaia? Based on the bad breakup between Eteri and Kostornaia in the offseason and the apparent lack of forewarning to Plushenko that she (Kostornaia) was going to be looking at moving to a different coach and went to Sambo to talk to Eteri (thus eliminating any ability for this to be a discreet inquiry) - I can understand both coaches refusing to budge on their cuts of endorsement money.
Danny G says they’ll make a decision about Aliona in the next couple of days, but she can’t train with them for the other reason: she’s already contractually bound (by Plushenko, I presume), so that contract needs to be broken first, and there are some financials nuances that need to be resolved associated with that.
Глейхенгауз рассказал о финансовых нюансах при возвращении Косторной от Плющенко к Тутберидзе
Тренер и хореограф «Хрустального» Даниил Глейхенгауз в эксклюзивном комментарии «СЭ» рассказал о возможном приходе Алены Косторной в группу Этери Тутберидзе.www.sport-express.ru
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The question is who and how do you convince their mother of that. Alferova works at AoP so she is unlikely to send the girls to an outside coach (least of all Eteri). At AoP there is Rozanov whom Alferova wasn't happy with and who is his own independent unit now, so it doesn't seem likely. Mikhailov-Alekseev have been doing well, maybe that group? But they may have their hands full. Plushenko has to think long and hard about the situation.
Yep, its a can of worms that was allowed to be opened by letting her start coaching her daughters. She appears to be a pretty good technical coach, maybe if they get her a bigger pool of teaching the technical aspects to more skaters they can midway through the offseason say "oh, you have so many other skaters to coach on technique, let's have <fill in the blank> take over as the main coach for the girls.
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In the US, Zhilina would go to an actual sport psychologist. You know, someone who's specifically trained to help athletes conquer nerves and underperformance problems. I imagine that's not a thing in Russia.
What weird to me is that Eteri is obviously not commenting on the situation until a decision is made - cuz that would be unprofessional - but she doesn't tell Danny to stop blabbing all over social media.
What weird to me is that Eteri is obviously not commenting on the situation until a decision is made - cuz that would be unprofessional - but she doesn't tell Danny to stop blabbing all over social media.
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There are sports psychologists in Russia. Kolyada and Konstantinova went to one for example. So did Kovtun eventually, although he resisted it for a long time. These are just the ones who have publicly spoken about it.
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Rozanov seems to have largely neglected everyone but Aliona K. (not that it helped Aiona), so I can understand removing the girls from there, plus Alferova didn't like the technique he was teaching. So I can see it being complicated in terms of what was to be done with them.
The first step would be to keep Alferova away from competitions. She seems to be doing the most damage there. As far as getting her a bigger pool of students, she already has two groups, one with Plushenko where her daughters are, one of her own. I guess the Plushenko one could be made bigger and her load then lightened by removing Veronika and Aliona...
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It is difficult to deny a parent something they desire for their children. In most countries, they have the final say over what happens to their children. I do agree that ideally, she should not be their primary coach. She could continue to be their technical coach (obviously she teaches great technique), but often we are too harsh on those we love because we care too much about their future and success and some coaches just don't know how to deal with their students as humans. They treat them as robots without emotions or limitations. I like Sasha's coach. He seems kind (and handsome
) maybe he could take a more active role and be the coach that goes with them to competitions. Perhaps, their mother would allow it as long as he doesn't change their technique. (which frankly doesn't need to be changed)- Joined
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If by Sasha's coach you mean Mikhailov he is in a different group so it would be odd for him to go to competitions with a student he has never worked with. Alferova's group also has Lipnitskaya and Tarasenko in it but I am not sure how ready they are to take students to competitions. Of course, Plushenko can simply do it himself for important competitions.It is difficult to deny a parent something they desire for their children. In most countries, they have the final say over what happens to their children. I do agree that ideally, she should not be their primary coach. She could continue to be their technical coach (obviously she teaches great technique), but often we are too harsh on those we love because we care too much about their future and success and some coaches just don't know how to deal with their students as humans. They treat them as robots without emotions or limitations. I like Sasha's coach. He seems kind (and handsome
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I think it's a done deal they just have to hammer out the financial details before it can be announced officially. Given the complexity of the situation this could take a while. Coaches, sponsors, RusFed all need to come to an arrangement.
I truly hope that part of whatever 'arrangement' is reached includes Aliona being thoroughly evaluated by medical professionals/specialists and agreeing NOT to train until she is cleared by a doctor. There has been a lot of hinting about injuries and medical conditions that might have serious ramifications. If Aliona has to sit out a season then so be it. You cannot replace your health. Anything else can be fixed with time.
It seems like time is luxury that these ladies don't have; but if you don't have your health it won't matter.
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Plushenko already suggested she sit out this season, she said no. I don't think she's run back to Eteri for medical treatment. She is desperate for some sort of miracle in terms of results.
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I think she'd rather tell him to mind his damn business.
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