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Scott512 said:
Then it was to stop Eteri! How did that work out? Lol. I was right all along.
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No. It isn't like there was a skater before Alina backloading all FS jumps and they let it slide, but then Alina did it and they stopped allowing it. She was the first, and they didn't like what they saw, simple. A lot of rules changed after the Olympics and the whole GOE system. What about the not being able to repeat 2 quads on the men's side? That hurt some skaters more than others but it is what it is.
 
macy said:
also, i think there were probably quite a few skaters in the IJS era, way before Alina, that could have pulled off all jumps in the 2nd half if they wanted to. As others said, I don't think anyone really thought about doing it or even considered it because of it being an unbalanced program until Eteri and Alina decided to play the system, which was a pretty ballsy move.
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I actually think Alina was unique in being able to do a long program like she did in 2018, at least among those from her period and before. Evgenia was a very consistent jumper and wasn't able to backload everything with the consistency needed. The difficulty is doing all that content, having a back-up plan if you miss something, and having the capability of executing the back-up plan consistently. Missing one triple eliminates any advantage of the backloading, which is why I think it wasn't a popular strategy before 2018.
 
Some of the successful jumps from Sasha's evening practice.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMutb7AIAiM/

Fingers crossed that she finds a good balance between risk and reward in actual free skate. It's so nerve-wracking watching the clips where she falls (I haven't linked them here).

Edit: I think that first video has been replaced by this one, falls and successes alike.

 
Back to Sasha! I’m so happy for her with her clean SP run through. I always thought, if she can master the triple axel, then there isn’t too much pressure for her to land all those quads in the free skate. If I was her, I would focus on 3A in SP and then two 4T, one 4Lz and one 3A in the free skate. This is a harder layout than most men. I feel that 4 quads is too much for Sasha in the free skate..... the triple axel will allow for the possibility to stick with her three comfortable quads and still win. Triple axel is the key.
 
RatedPG said:
Back to Sasha! I’m so happy for her with her clean SP run through. I always thought, if she can master the triple axel, then there isn’t too much pressure for her to land all those quads in the free skate. If I was her, I would focus on 3A in SP and then two 4T, one 4Lz and one 3A in the free skate. This is a harder layout than most men. I feel that 4 quads is too much for Sasha in the free skate..... the triple axel will allow for the possibility to stick with her three comfortable quads and still win. Triple axel is the key.
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I'm happy for Sasha, but worried about the 4Lz, 4F and 4S. None of the landings of those jumps were good, even though they were landed, and they were very close to the quarter mark. A few practices don't say a lot, but I wonder if she's in peak physical form. 5 quad FS? I'd say no.
 
silveruskate said:
I'm happy for Sasha, but worried about the 4Lz, 4F and 4S. None of the landings of those jumps were good, even though they were landed and very close to the quarter mark. A few practices don't say a lot, but I wonder if she's in peak physical form.
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Her jumps looked good this morning. I just think she is going for too many quads. I really think 3 quads is her best bet.
 
lopsilceci said:
Is Sasha really going for 5 quads + 3A? I really hope not 😅
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I can't understand her. Liza is no competition to a half decent Sasha and Anna seems wobbly.
Why not do your 3A and 2-3 quads and go for the gold? She must know there's no guarantee to go to another WC..
They have made their goals clear and the gold here is not one of them, but I just struggle to get into their mindset as to why.
 
starlight97 said:
I can't understand her. Liza is no competition to a half decent Sasha and Anna seems wobbly.
Why not do your 3A and 2-3 quads and go for the gold? She must know there's no guarantee to go to another WC..
They have made their goals clear and the gold here is not one of them, but I just struggle to get into their mindset as to why.
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Don't underestimate Anna. Some skaters have better practices than others but usually, that's not a clear indication of how the actual competition will go. I wouldn't judge a skater's shape or physical/mental state just going by their practices.

Of course they're going for gold! Saying that the main goal is to skate clean doesn't mean they don't care about the gold. For a nervous competitor like Sasha, it is a good strategy to focus on yourself rather than the competition results, but for skaters who are actually in contention for gold, skating clean is not just a personal satisfaction, it's the means to the end.
 
Scott512 said:
Yes!

Now is sashas time to strike! When KV becoming a senior next season and alyona regraining her form at TT there are no guarantees for the Olympic team. But if sasha wins worlds she will have as close to a guarantee as she can get for the Olympic team.
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Trusova hasn't done a 3 quad program clean all season and in the last 2 years she's had what 3 clean FS's, 1 of which was a 2 quad program. I don't know if "going for broke" here is a good idea, like you said next year Valieva will be a senior and Kostornaia might regain her form with Eteri so a meltdown here could be disastrous for her team selection chances next year.
 
Amei said:
Trusova hasn't done a 3 quad program clean all season and in the last 2 years she's had what 3 clean FS's, 1 of which was a 2 quad program. I don't know if "going for broke" here is a good idea, like you said next year Valieva will be a senior and Kostornaia might regain her form with Eteri so a meltdown here could be disastrous for her team selection chances next year.
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I don't think there will be a meltdown. Such case that Sasha experienced at Rostelecom happens rarely and at the end it can be even positive as the skater knows what was wrong, unless the skater starts to worry too much which I definitely don't think is Sasha's case.
 
flanker said:
I don't think there will be a meltdown. Such case that Sasha experienced at Rostelecom happens rarely and at the end it can be even positive as the skater knows what was wrong, unless the skater starts to worry too much which I definitely don't think is Sasha's case.
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Rostelecom wasn't her first really bad skate, nor was it her only skate this season with multiple mistakes, shes not even done a 4 quad program this season and she's been injured - per my original going for broke here attempting a 5 quad program doesn't seem a good idea to me if she has a bad skate it might be a negative mark on her chances next year for team selection.
 
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