Ladies Free Skate - Asada vs. Meissner - Round 2

[SailorGalaxia518]

wow, that's close. just barely squeezed out 2nd. But this means she's going to the GPF :agree:

This also means that Asada has won.

Pretty much. Let's hope Asada doesn't bomb

 

[R.D.]

Yes. Asada would have to tank this one in order to even be in danger of losing.

 

[museksk8r]

kimmie's score is lower than wagner??

That's really not that much of a shock. Ashley is a REALLY tough, consistent competitor. She has shown greater consistency than Mao IMO if you're just looking at jumps.

 

[Tonichelle]

I like Kimmie's programs this season... she's lovely skater in her own right... and at least she's not just another cookie cutter ladies champ.

 

[mizu_iro]

Really? Inflated PCS? You know that for a fact because you saw her skate just now? You may not care for her free skate, but that doesn't necessarily mean that she didn't do it well (albeit that she clearly had some trouble technically today, too).

Kimmie, as of now, isn't exactly a smooth, graceful, emotional skater. She can be an exciting skater when she hits everything, and she's certainly dependable. But as far as positions, fluidness and interpretation go, a flawed performance by Kimmie shouldn't be scored 7 points higher on PCS than a clean (or close to clean) performance by Ashley.

 

[netnuts]

what happened to Kimmie? She must have popped or underrotated some jumps.

 

[crazydreamer]

This will be great for Wagner, a real breakthrough. Now the judges and everyone will start to take her seriously, I think. I have no idea how she ended up so low at her last GP event, so I'm glad she was treated fairly here.

 

[Medusa]

2 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 102.76 46.08 57.68 7.40 7.00 7.25 7.25 7.15 1.00 #11

Okay, they can really go back to the old 6.0 system. Kimmie got lower TES than the French girl - but they gave her so much PCS so nobody will notice. You can look at any of these skaters - if they have a good reputation and bad TES - they just inflate the PCS, few minutes ago with Meier, now with Meissner. The Canadian Lady got 12 points less PCS but 10 points more TES. But she does not have that a good reputation, so they keep her low. And Kimmie is a great skater with good skating skills - but come on, she is not the ultimate artist on ice (well, perhaps she was tonight and I will know better after having watched her program). But I think the judges kind of kill the hopes of "new" girls like Wagner and Leung, it is like they are not really rewarded, even if they worked hard etc.

 

[ks777]

Kimmie, as of now, isn't exactly a smooth, graceful, emotional skater. She can be an exciting skater when she hits everything, and she's certainly dependable. But as far as positions, fluidness and interpretation go, a flawed performance by Kimmie shouldn't be scored 7 points higher on PCS than a clean (or close to clean) performance by Ashley.

I totally agree with you there.

 

[mizu_iro]

2 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 102.76 46.08 57.68 7.40 7.00 7.25 7.25 7.15 1.00 #11

Okay, they can really go back to the old 6.0 system. Kimmie got lower TES than the French girl - but they gave her so much PCS so nobody will notice. You can look at any of these skaters - if they have a good reputation and bad TES - they just inflate the PCS, few minutes ago with Meier, now with Meissner. The Canadian Lady got 12 points less PCS but 10 points more TES. But she does not have that a good reputation, so they keep her low. And Kimmie is a great skater with good skating skills - but come on, she is not the ultimate artist on ice (well, perhaps she was tonight and I will know better after having watched her program). But I think the judges kind of kill the hopes of "new" girls like Wagner and Leung, it is like they are not really rewarded, even if they worked hard etc.

Exactly my point.
Except I don't think Mira's low PCS should have anyone crying wuzrobbed...

 

[SailorGalaxia518]

1 Mao ASADA JPN 122.90 63.94 60.96 7.85 7.40 7.65 7.65 7.55 2.00 #12
2 Ashley WAGNER USA 108.15 57.35 50.80 6.50 6.25 6.50 6.20 6.30 0.00 #8
3 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 102.76 46.08 57.68 7.40 7.00 7.25 7.25 7.15 1.00 #11
4 Mira LEUNG CAN 100.79 56.07 44.72 5.85 5.35 5.60 5.55 5.60 0.00 #6
5 Sarah MEIER SUI 93.17 39.85 54.32 7.00 6.55 6.75 6.85 6.80 1.00 #9
6 Viktoria PAVUK HUN 93.17 48.69 44.48 5.70 5.35 5.45 5.65 5.65 0.00 #7
7 Elena GLEBOVA EST 86.47 41.43 47.04 6.20 5.65 5.85 5.90 5.80 2.00 #10
8 Gwendoline DIDIER FRA 83.32 46.84 36.48 4.85 4.30 4.60 4.70 4.35 0.00 #3
9 Valentina MARCHEI ITA 75.81 33.17 42.64 5.60 5.05 5.20 5.40 5.40 0.00 #5
10 Dan FANG CHN 71.53 33.21 38.32 5.00 4.55 4.85 4.80 4.75 0.00 #4
11 Aki SAWADA JPN 69.24 32.28 36.96 4.95 4.35 4.70 4.60 4.50 0.00 #1
12 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 63.48 26.64 37.84 5.05 4.50 4.65 4.70 4.75 1.00 #2

Overall:

1 Mao ASADA
JPN
179.80 1 1
2 Kimmie MEISSNER
USA
158.74 2 3
3 Ashley WAGNER
USA
158.63 5 2
4 Sarah MEIER
SUI
147.15 4 5
5 Mira LEUNG
CAN
144.57 7 4
6 Elena GLEBOVA
EST
141.71 3 7
7 Viktoria PAVUK
HUN
137.73 6 6
8 Gwendoline DIDIER
FRA
120.14 10 8
9 Valentina MARCHEI
ITA
118.99 8 9
10 Dan FANG
CHN
111.65 9 10
11 Aki SAWADA
JPN
99.18 12 11
12 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA
UZB
98.90 11 12

 

[museksk8r]

I don't think Mira's low PCS should have anyone crying wuzrobbed...

Lord knows that's the truth! :agree:

 

[ks777]

Exactly my point.
Except I don't think Mira's low PCS should have anyone crying wuzrobbed...

Because Mira isn't smooth nor artistic.

 

[mizu_iro]

Mao with two deductions scores over 122 and runs away with the gold.
Really curious for the protocols now...how do you score that high with TWO deductions?!

 

[R.D.]

See that point gap? I knew it. Asada is in her own league here.

 

[museksk8r]

2 falls and she's ahead by that much? Wow, the other ladies must have been horrible.

 

[R.D.]

2 falls and she's ahead by that much? Wow, the other ladies must have been horrible.

TWO falls?! WTH? How did she get ahead by such a wide margin then??

 

[ks777]

Maybe one fall and the time deduction?

 

[yelyoh]

2 falls and she's ahead by that much? Wow, the other ladies must have been horrible.

Or Asada's scores are inflated.

 

[mizu_iro]

I do think the judges here were more liberal with the PCS than they were at the other GP's, but that's still a ridiculous score for Mao. Hopefully at least one of the deductions was a time violation, not a major mistake.