Ladies Free Skate
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Honestly, I was a bit surprised to see Yu-na get that high of a free skate, I thought Mao's program would score more. However, Mao two footed two of her elements and that hurt her a bit...However, I was partly being sarcastic because I may be an uber Kimaniac, but I'm not going around denigrating Mao, or pitching a fit. I actaully quite like Mao, and I wouldn't be surpised if very soon she and Yu-na are held equally in my esteem. I've never been as mean to Yu-na's competitors as Tiara is to Yu-na.
Flutz and lip are not 'cheats' but incorrect entrances into jumps. Underrotation is cheating, and Mao has been dinged for quite a few of those this season.
In any case, Yu-Na's flip is obviously not a lip, because not only did she not get an edge call, she got +2GOE on her 3F+3T.
Yu-Na's still working on getting a consistent 3L. Once she has it consistently, she will have a full set of triple jumps (aside from the 3A), which Mao does not have. Bear in mind that if Yu-Na had landed the 3L, she would have beaten Mao in the FS by almost 4 points. So I'd say it doesn't appear as if Yu-Na needs a 3A if she can get almost as many points for her FS with a fall as Mao did without one.
Note that the 3L was the only element in Yu-Na's FS that got -GOE, and she got +GOE on all her other elements. Her spins are all level4, and they are lovely.
As for Mao, she did a 3A (the only one she's landed in competition this season) and she got -GOE on it. She also got -GOE on her flip combination and on her 3flutz (which did get an edge call). She needs to work on her spins, because they're not all level4 and she doesn't get as high GOE on them as Yu-Na does.
Mao hasn't been at all consistent with her 3A and she flutzes, which makes her vulnerable to a clean or near-clean program from Yu-Na.
Lots of skaters with slim builds like Yu-Na's remain flatchested well into their 20s and beyond. Sasha Cohen is 23 and she still is far from curvy. Carolina Kostner is bigger-boned than Yu-Na, and she is still quite flatchested at almost 21.
Agreed, agreed, agreed!!
I haven't watched Yuna's yet. So I have no idea which should be above.
But just a minor note, mao got deducted for her 3A (-0.8), 3F-3T (-0.6) and lutz (-1). So it totals -2.4 deduction whereas Yuna had -3 deduction for her fall. It seems that Yuna had more plus than Mao did.
Regarding the PCS, I felt Mao's kind of low, not necessarily comparing to anyone, but I just felt it lower than I expected. But PCS is so subjective and varies by event that it's a bit hard to say it's low or not. Among the three GP events of hers, I actually thought that she was artistically most wonderful at SC, where she had the lowest PCSs.
I find it hard to believe that the judges would keep her PCS down, just because she was the first skater. I mean she's Mao Asada.
Wow! Cannot agree any more! She was radiant at SC. Just joyful and beaming
Oh well, pcs is subjective
Wow! Cannot agree any more! She was radiant at SC. Just joyful and beaming
I suspect that the judges use PCS to place skaters...But I agree her best PC performance was skate Canada, the look on her face at the end, was just lovely...
Honestly, I love Mao's music, I can't stop humming it. It really grows on you.. .
after rewatching Mao and Kim's LP, I have to declare Mao should have won this event hands-down, period.
The technical content of Mao's program is simply unprecedented for women skaters. It's ridiculous for Mao to only beat a fallen Kim by less than one point in free. No wonder figure skating is becoming an internet sport.
The technical content of Mao's program is simply unprecedented for women skaters. It's ridiculous for Mao to only beat a fallen Kim by less than one point in free. No wonder figure skating is becoming an internet sport.
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people need to calm down!!!!
(except for Tiara,as twisted as Tiara is, I quite enjoy his/her post, my guilty pleasure!!
keep up the good work!!:agree
(except for Tiara,as twisted as Tiara is, I quite enjoy his/her post, my guilty pleasure!!
keep up the good work!!:agreeUnfortunately I can not associate the word "beautiful" with Yuna's body. Yuna is just too skinny.
We saw both Yuna and Mao in black tights during practice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ2imDVbheU&NR=1
Black tights accentuates their body lines. I have to say that the word "beautiful" belongs to Mao, rather than Yuna.
Regarding Yuna's skating, the words "precise" or "consistent" are more appropriate than "beautiful". Any word about "beauty" always belongs to Mao. Yuna's skating has nothing to do with beauty. She is just better to execute required elements with less mistakes. However, her potential as a skater is not so great as Mao's.
It's all about level of execution now.
If Mao fixes some of her jumping techniques that are causing -GOEs, yes, she will win everything hands down.
Unfortunately I can not associate the word "beautiful" with Yuna's body. Yuna is just too skinny.
We saw both Yuna and Mao in black tights during practice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ2imDVbheU&NR=1
Black tights accentuates their body lines. I have to say that the word "beautiful" belongs to Mao, rather than Yuna.
Regarding Yuna's skating, the words "precise" or "consistent" are more appropriate than "beautiful". Any word about "beauty" always belongs to Mao. Yuna's skating has nothing to do with beauty. She is just better to execute required elements with less mistakes. However, her potential as a skater is not so great as Mao's.
Since the double
, I'll take you're jokingI actually agree with this, but then if Yu-na works on her stretch and positions, they'll be even again. Honestly, I think that Mao and Yu-na are really well matched against each other. They are in someways Mirror skaters. Really though it's pretty incredible that two such amazing talents came itno the figure skating at the same time (they were even born in the same month LOL!)
I wouldn't be surprised if when they get older, and done with the competitive scene, if the two of them become good friends. I think they probably understand each other.
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I'm so happy for Caro holding her nerves in front of the home crowd and rising to the podium! That's the best free skate I've seen from her in a long time.
I think Zhang did a remarkable job here considering that she's at least 3 years younger than the rest. She has unbelievable consistency, and I believe that's going to take her to a very rewarding career. But at the same time I couldn't help but notice her lack of speed and power, even more glaring as she had to skate between two ladies with the best skating skills. Knowing her, she'll probably work hard to improve on those aspects by next season.
Good for Mao to show the naysayers that she is indeed a fierce competitor, and congrats to Yu-Na for her consecutive win on the GPF.
Yukari's donut spins were as lovely and as neverending than ever, but sadly with that leg wrap even a 3A cannot save you.
I just felt sorry for Kimmie.
I think Zhang did a remarkable job here considering that she's at least 3 years younger than the rest. She has unbelievable consistency, and I believe that's going to take her to a very rewarding career. But at the same time I couldn't help but notice her lack of speed and power, even more glaring as she had to skate between two ladies with the best skating skills. Knowing her, she'll probably work hard to improve on those aspects by next season.
Good for Mao to show the naysayers that she is indeed a fierce competitor, and congrats to Yu-Na for her consecutive win on the GPF.
Yukari's donut spins were as lovely and as neverending than ever, but sadly with that leg wrap even a 3A cannot save you.
I just felt sorry for Kimmie.
As much as I would've loved if Caroline medalled (I had predicted she would be either 3rd or 4th), not medalling here will only help her grow. She had a very successful GPs, but not too successful to make her cocky. Just as the downgrade fiasco at SA helped her work on her jumps, she really has a bright future ahead.
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IMO Mao's FS was amazing both technically and artistically, she deserved to win the FS. Her PCS should have been on par with Yu-Na but that's largely due to the skating order, which she did to herself by bombing the SP so badly. It may be unfair but that's what it is. I think her TES makes perfect sense. Mao should realize she needs to fix her flutz and get 3T and 3S back. Under the current scoring system, those will be much much more beneficial than having a mediocre 3A. Hey, the judges are scoring Yu-Na's 3Lz almost a full point higher than Mao's 3A (7.8 to 6.9), and I agree with them.
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She had 3T in this performance
I know but I don't think she is very comfortable with that jump yet. it's the first time she did it this season right? If she can consistently land two 3-3 and fix the flutz, I can't even imagine how high her scores will be!!!
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