Pairs Free Skate

[perlla]

S/S done greate job. Now they should winEuros and Worlds

 

[kandidy]

Congrats to every medalist

 

[*Sniper*]

Because the Zhangs are one of the most overscored teams in history, that is why they finish 2nd when they deserve to be 3rd here. Dont look to their skating and its merit for answers, you will find none.

So why ARE they so overmarked anyway?
Their zero artistry is blatantly displayed in all of their programs.
How are the judges able to overlook this???

 

[slutskayafan21]

So why ARE they so overmarked anyway?
Their zero artistry is blatantly displayed in all of their programs.
How are the judges able to overlook this???

I have no idea. Maybe the Chinese federation is selling out Pang/Tong in order to promote the Zhangs, since Pang/Tong seem undermarked often while the Zhangs seem overmarked at the same time. Often countries will do that, buy out scores for the one they choose to back by making deals with others, while sacrificing the other as a sacrificial lamb. I dont know. There is no obvious answer to me.

Maybe they just get excited by their speed and big tricks and overlook all their flaws and give them huge marks in everything.

 

[*Sniper*]

I have no idea. Maybe the Chinese federation is selling out Pang/Tong in order to promote the Zhangs, since Pang/Tong seem undermarked often while the Zhangs seem overmarked at the same time. Often countries will do that, buy out scores for the one they choose to back by making deals with others, while sacrificing the other as a sacrificial lamb. I dont know. There is no obvious answer to me.

Maybe they just get excited by their speed and big tricks and overlook all their flaws and give them huge marks in everything.

Ah, the good old politics....
Okay, I don't want to go there.
But seriously Z/Z would be better at playing Texas Holdem with their poker faces.

 

[slutskayafan21]

But seriously Z/Z would be better at playing Texas Holdem with their poker faces.

You are so right there. Especialy her.

 

[beep_beep]

Ah, the good old politics....
Okay, I don't want to go there.
But seriously Z/Z would be better at playing Texas Holdem with their poker faces.

 

[skatingfan04]

Congratz to S/S!!! I was hoping they would take this. Too bad about D/D. I thought they would be closer to P/T coming in, but I guess the mistakes and lack of triple twist hurt them. Even so, a good showing for their first year.

 

[oleada]

Congrats to Aliona and Robin!

 

[cassieandcheetah]

Hi everyone1
I just have a question...Did Aliona and Robin get behind their music after their side by spin. Because I remember they usually do the sudden pause thingy when the music changes and they've just done their sbs spin, but this time, they spun a bit longer after the music change.....Did anyone else notice that?

thanks in advance!
cassieandcheetah

 

[lyton]

S/S really deserved that high PCS?
I'm puzzled!

 

[chuckm]

I think S/S did deserve their PCS scores, especially compared to the teams that skated right before them. They were head and shoulders above the other teams.

 

[chuckm]

Congratz to S/S!!! I was hoping they would take this. Too bad about D/D. I thought they would be closer to P/T coming in, but I guess the mistakes and lack of triple twist hurt them. Even so, a good showing for their first year.

Looking at D/D skate, I am always scared for Jessica in the lifts. She is short, but she is not a tiny, bird-boned girl, and Bryce has a slight build and doesn't have a well-muscled upper body.

They will probably never get a triple twist and will be limited in the throws they can do because they verge on being physically mismatched.

 

[cassieandcheetah]

Looking at D/D skate, I am always scared for Jessica in the lifts. She is short, but she is not a tiny, bird-boned girl, and Bryce has a slight build and doesn't have a well-muscled upper body.

They will probably never get a triple twist and will be limited in the throws they can do because they verge on being physically mismatched.

are you saying Jessica's fat?

 

[Fae]

Yay!

I'm so glad S/S won!! Wish P/T had beaten Z/Z though....I don't get the Zhang2 love.

I can't wait to get home and view this on youtube!!!

 

[chuckm]

are you saying Jessica's fat?

No, she is definitely not fat. But she has a stocky body type and she is very muscular, and muscle is the heaviest type of body tissue. Jessica is not fat, but she may be heavier to lift than a petite, fine-boned skater like Aliona Savchenko or Keauna McLaughlin. And Bryce is not as well-developed in the shoulders and chest as Robin Szolkowy or Rockne Brubaker.

Bryce has had near-misses in lifts in the past, and in the summer of 2006 he actually dropped Jessica on a lift during a practice session, and she was hurt.

It's the combination of her body type being just a little too heavy for his body type to be able to lift and throw with ease.

There there isn't much Jessica can do about her body type, and although Bryce has worked at developing his upper body, it hasn't helped much. He has to be careful not to become over-developed, because that could disrupt his jumping.

 

[i love to skate]

No, she is definitely not fat. But she has a stocky body type and she is very muscular, and muscle is the heaviest type of body tissue. Jessica is not fat, but she may be heavier to lift than a petite, fine-boned skater like Aliona Savchenko or Keauna McLaughlin. And Bryce is not as well-developed in the shoulders and chest as Robin Szolkowy or Rockne Brubaker.

Bryce has had near-misses in lifts in the past, and in the summer of 2006 he actually dropped Jessica on a lift during a practice session, and she was hurt.

It's the combination of her body type being just a little too heavy for his body type to be able to lift and throw with ease.

There there isn't much Jessica can do about her body type, and although Bryce has worked at developing his upper body, it hasn't helped much. He has to be careful not to become over-developed, because that could disrupt his jumping.

Jess and Bryce have very good lifts; they cover the ice well, have great positions and Bryce has incredibly neat footwork. As for Bryce having "dropped" Jessica in the past, it's not like this hasn't happened to other pair teams. I'm not sure where all this negativity is coming from...

 

[Cal Girl]

I really like Jessica and Bryce and it doesnt look like she is too big for him or he is not strong enough. In a way they remind me of Jaime and David. They look like young women and men. It is just so hard to compare them to the rest of the field, Yuko who is a peanut, Keuna who is still so young, Aliona who is the world's strongest twig, and the Chinese teams who look like waifs!
Eat Girls Eat!

 

[chuckm]

Jess and Bryce have very good lifts; they cover the ice well, have great positions and Bryce has incredibly neat footwork. As for Bryce having "dropped" Jessica in the past, it's not like this hasn't happened to other pair teams. I'm not sure where all this negativity is coming from...

They have good lifts, but not great ones. They do not have a triple twist and probably never will, and the throws they can do consistently are the simpler ones.

Bryce had to abort a lift in their SP at the GPF, and it was not the first time that happened.

Physically, they are not an ideal pair and it does place limitations on the pairs skills they can do with ease. What they do have is very excellent 'pairness', but without the harder skills, they may not be able to challenge for a spot on the World podium.

 

[cassieandcheetah]

They have good lifts, but not great ones. They do not have a triple twist and probably never will, and the throws they can do consistently are the simpler ones.

Bryce had to abort a lift in their SP at the GPF, and it was not the first time that happened.

Physically, they are not an ideal pair and it does place limitations on the pairs skills they can do with ease. What they do have is very excellent 'pairness', but without the harder skills, they may not be able to challenge for a spot on the World podium.

I remember Aliona and Robin doing only a double twist in the sp in like 2005. Was it still the rule back then that pairs could only do a double for their sp, or they could just do a double at the time? I wouldn't rule it out for Jess and Bryce to do a triple. If they are serious about the Olympics they must be aware that they need it...