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...for me too. there is nothing in her skating that captures the heart. though, she truly is hard workingut but it is not enough to be unforgetabble or universally loved skater.
Being universally loved is something like those movies that in order to catch everyone resign for even the least aspiration of class and high quality and at the end they have no taste, charisma or sense. It is the last thing I want from my favourite skater.
 
oh i totally understand it. Even with a meltdown she's going to Olys I dont have any illusions. It was basically a post of desperation from me:biggrin: AS is like the most overrated skater ever to me
Totally the opposite for me. Anna has some kind of magic that always draws me in. Few skaters have that imo.

With Kostornaia, and Medvedeva in her day, I felt nothing.

It's interesting how totally different people's preferences can be...:)
 
Totally the opposite for me. Anna has some kind of magic that always draws me in. Few skaters have that imo.
A year ago, it was clearly noticeable what a powerful wave of emotions arose during Anna's performance on the ice. Spectators and commentators were in tears, even Tutberidze could not resist. I saw this performance for the first time on the small screen of my smartphone, and after that my pneumonia began to recede. Maybe it's a coincidence, or maybe my lungs felt ashamed that they were ready to surrender to the disease that such a thin girl defeated. I had the feeling that she was fighting there not for a medal, but for my life, for hope. And I will never forget this feeling of victory in the end, and I saw the same feeling in the eyes of other people who were watching Anna then.

Perhaps someone will cleanly land 10 quads in one FS, win several Olympics in a row, but they will not be able to achieve what Anna was able to do that day. Therefore, she will always remain number one for me, regardless of how her future career develops. I can only regret people who do not see anything in her.
 
skaters' personalities are always important. It's part of the equation, part of their foundation as performers and competitors. Anna may appeal to people who somehow have a similar personality or who would like to possess some of her qualities (me!).
You connect to a skater at so many levels and it may be worthy to analyze this connection, i.e. the reasons behind it.
I love passion and intensity and I find Kamila incredibly intense with all her perfection in skating. That's why she's my number one.
Very charismatic skaters like Liza appeal to me less, because I'm an introvert. But that doesn't mean she isn't great or that she's overrated. Maybe sometimes skating fans should change their perspective a bit. If you don't like a skater it doesn't mean she is a bad skater. :biggrin:
 
And me. I’ll be honest, and say I actually dislike her skating. I find the pained expression she always has incredible grating. All her programmes are just so boring. Give me Alyona or even Liza any day of the week.
I find Kamila’s interpretation bad because she either looks angry or in pain and that was an issue I had with Perfume as well. But then the movie/music itself is really dark so maybe it’s sort of appropriate? I in general just don’t like these sorts of desperate programs or super lyrical ones where interpretation is reduced down to what Dance Moms fans might know as the “Maddie Face”. It does nothing for me.

Anna never really looks pained to me except when she quite literally was in pain at RusNats. She even had a less pained look on her face than many other skaters maybe typically present in last years SP and it was about depression. At that point I was worried she’d blocked herself into a particular type of program that I don’t personally like. But after this year’s programs that really show off her range, I think she has some of the most dynamic expressions of all the girls. I think this is why she can pull off programs like Firebird and Master of Margarita that imply some sort of internal character change.
 
Well, it's great to see everything is back to normal here when it comes to Anna.
I was beginning to worry about all the positivity lately. It was like wandering into some sort of bizarro-world.

If I were alexofcp, I'd be betting all my money on Anna to win Russian Nationals now - and never mind Sasha's 5 quads, Liza T's triple axels, or Kamila's astronomical scores.

In fact, if in the next couple of months we could bring back a couple of posters from last season and their "analysis" of all of Anna's faults, she might just win the OGM too!
 
A year ago, it was clearly noticeable what a powerful wave of emotions arose during Anna's performance on the ice. Spectators and commentators were in tears, even Tutberidze could not resist. I saw this performance for the first time on the small screen of my smartphone, and after that my pneumonia began to recede. Maybe it's a coincidence, or maybe my lungs felt ashamed that they were ready to surrender to the disease that such a thin girl defeated. I had the feeling that she was fighting there not for a medal, but for my life, for hope. And I will never forget this feeling of victory in the end, and I saw the same feeling in the eyes of other people who were watching Anna then.

Perhaps someone will cleanly land 10 quads in one FS, win several Olympics in a row, but they will not be able to achieve what Anna was able to do that day. Therefore, she will always remain number one for me, regardless of how her future career develops. I can only regret people who do not see anything in her.

So true. I remember my thought after her skate - "THIS is sport. All this, all this buzz, these shiny medals, all this fuss and tinsel ONLY to find and show the world such people and their will." And I remember how Eteri, right after that, says "That was the sport". Smart people have the same thoughts))) Olympics, Schmolympics - it's all funny of course, but what Anya did then is a piece product.

Our sweet Anya is a fragile baby-elf in the real world, but in the spirit world she is a giant. And indeed, one can only pity those people who are unable to see it, admire it, be inspired by it.
 
Kamila would need to make several mistakes for anyone to beat her. Anna's LP at last year's Russian Nationals was probably near her score ceiling, and Kamila topped that LP score at Rostelecom despite doubling one of her planned triples. The SP scores won't be that close if both are clean because of Kamila's 3A. I don't think even a clean Sasha can beat a clean Kamila; despite the advantage of 5 quads vs 3 quads and 2 3As over both programs, Kamila does everything else better and would easily close the base value gap with GOE and PCS.
 
Kamila would need to make several mistakes for anyone to beat her. Anna's LP at last year's Russian Nationals was probably near her score ceiling, and Kamila topped that LP score at Rostelecom despite doubling one of her planned triples. The SP scores won't be that close if both are clean because of Kamila's 3A. I don't think even a clean Sasha can beat a clean Kamila; despite the advantage of 5 quads vs 3 quads and 2 3As over both programs, Kamila does everything else better and would easily close the base value gap with GOE and PCS.
When talking about the scoring potential, Anna did only two quads last year. Her tech score was 106, a year before it was 108, with 3 quads but one mistake. So if Anna will do three clean quads her score can still increase for like 6-8 points. Of course clean Kamila will probably win, but Anna's scoring potential is not far away.
 
Well, it's great to see everything is back to normal here when it comes to Anna.
I was beginning to worry about all the positivity lately. It was like wandering into some sort of bizarro-world.

If I were alexofcp, I'd be betting all my money on Anna to win Russian Nationals now - and never mind Sasha's 5 quads, Liza T's triple axels, or Kamila's astronomical scores.

In fact, if in the next couple of months we could bring back a couple of posters from last season and their "analysis" of all of Anna's faults, she might just win the OGM too!
If want to give me a credit card number or a few bucks and pay for me to go to Russia, I would be happy to go and place a bet for you. Anna is currently at 5.50 to win gold. Haha

Can’t speak for anyone else, but you will get nothing but positivity from me when it comes to Anna. She can be on camera robbing a bank and I’ll still spin it as a positive somehow. Haha

Although, Kamila is awesome too. If she winds up winning, I will be happy. I’m not rooting against Kamila in any way, nor do I want her to make mistakes. I want everyone heathy and at their best at Nationals and the Olympics.

It is a much better competition when you win by being better than everyone rather than being less bad than everyone.
 
When talking about the scoring potential, Anna did only two quads last year. Her tech score was 106, a year before it was 108, with 3 quads but one mistake. So if Anna will do three clean quads her score can still increase for like 6-8 points. Of course clean Kamila will probably win, but Anna's scoring potential is not far away.
Anna hasn't done two quads since last Nationals, and three since before the pandemic, so I don't think it's realistic to expect her to land three when she has struggled to do a clean one this season.
 
Anna hasn't done two quads since last Nationals, and three since before the pandemic, so I don't think it's realistic to expect her to land three when she has struggled to do a clean one this season.
Actually she did two quads at the Channel One Trophy, but so what. Before the last nationals Anna did only 4F at the Cup stages and similarly like you now, some people were telling her future from that. Anna is doing both 4Lz and 4F in training now, she did clean 4F at both her GP stages ("she has struggled to do clean one"?) and I am not a "professional deliberate pessimist" when it comes to Anna like some others. ;)
 
Actually she did two quads at the Channel One Trophy, but so what. Before the last nationals Anna did only 4F at the Cup stages and similarly like you now, some people were telling her future from that. Anna is doing both 4Lz and 4F in training now, she did clean 4F at both her GP stages ("she has struggled to do clean one"?) and I am not a "professional deliberate pessimist" when it comes to Anna like some others. ;)
I'm not a pessimist. She may do three quads, but Kamila already has done that this season, so I don't think both doing three is equally likely.
 
I'm not a pessimist. She may do three quads, but Kamila already has done that this season, so I don't think both doing three is equally likely.
Before Skate Canada you could say the similar thing about Kamila, that she did not deliver a clean program with 4T, 4S and 3A yet. And there she is now. I don't think there is any need to recap Anna's lack of training before due to her injury that gave her less time for preparation, but now everything should be fine. I would understand this if she has never ever landed a single quad (though remember the ridiculing of Maiia to which she gave a clear answer), but in reality we live this persistent repudiation is more like obstinacy.

We speak about a three time national champion and what you write about her is in no way different than what many wrote about her before all of her three titles (and actually most of her other titles as well). And still nothing of that make people to be more careful about their predictions. No one can give a 100 % guarantee that Anna will deliver three clean quads, but that zealous negativism about her that not a single other skater is experiencing is simply nuts.
 
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And still nothing of that make people to be more careful about their predictions. No one can give a 100 % guarantee that Anna will deliver three clean quads, but that zealous negativism about her that not a single other skater is experiencing is simply nuts.
Three quads is two more than she has done all season. I would be equally as doubtful as Kamila doing five, or Sasha seven.
 
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