See below the only negative test reported (that I'm aware of) is the Beijing test.
Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups
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See below the only negative test reported (that I'm aware of) is the Beijing test.
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They might have given her a substance like a food supplement that produces a similar reaction but it does it in minimal quantities. That's why it was never identified before or after. The intentional wrongdoing would be giving her Preductal - the name of a drug that one can easily buy in a pharmacy. I am sure that they did not do it.
My principal belief, now that her Olympic test is negative, is that TT did not intentionally give her WADA forbidden substances. At the same time, I would agree that they gave her some substances. There is no high level sport without pharma these days - I wonder if someone will argue with that.
All skaters have to submit a list of drugs (including supplements) they are taking. But Valieva did not include a migraine drug on the list of medications she submitted. So this explanation for the positive drug test isn't viable.
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Please delete this if it is not appropriate. It saddens deeply that with a potential child abuse case here; rather than proritize her well being, the time and effort has been used to argue that such actions do not exist or even worse trying to justify them...
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gee, i prolly need to take something too to keep up with thread - yall so fast! (ok maybe too soon).
any word on when CAS is going to hand its decision - is it literally going to be a last-minute thing?
any word on when CAS is going to hand its decision - is it literally going to be a last-minute thing?
As much as I'm shocked by the whole doping situation, I'm even more shocked that you, of all people, believe in conspiracy against Russian sport. If such reasonable and respectable poster reaches for blue pill, then we probably never leave the matrix of dirty chauvinistic sport.
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Monday.
Possible, but they only found out Raducan's positive test after the Olympics. I don't see the point in her competing when, like Raducan, that will be the likely outcome for her as well
They wouldn't. I saw horrible comments online last Olympics from Russians rejoicing in Simone Biles pulling out of the team event, and accusing her of being a doper. Unlike the majority international comments, including American, who have expressed sympathy for Valieva, laying most criticism at her coaching team and still complement her athletic prowess. The same energy is never given in the opposite unfortunately. And you can see examples of that in this thread, ironically with them constantly bringing up Simone Biles.
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No, Raducan's case was literally during the Olympics. I remember it clearly even though I was just under 12. They made a big deal out of it on the day of beam and floor event finals. I cried over the whole thing. It's why she didn't hit her floor routine even though it was such a consistent event for her.
Ah ok. I'm a gym fan too but I was kinda young then and thought they didn't find it till afterwards. Off topic but it's kinda funny cause unlike FS, I actually prefer the Russian womens gym team more lol.
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Or it could be secret option number 3
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What would you do to 'improve her well being' and how these actions will have this effect (how you can be sure), can you explain?
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I've been to a few of these by now, and there is always an automatic response of the kind that is leaving you distraught,
but I think as long as we're having this conversation and questioning what's going on we should hear everybody out
as long as they're trying to back up their claims and are staying civil, even if we question their motivations.
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Innocent in a court of law maybe but, she's already guilty as far as the US press is concerned. It will be interesting to hear the way the ladies event is broadcast in the different countries. Fortunately, it looks like the skaters are backing Kamila.
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Cycling in 2005 or so was one of the dirtiest sports out there- Lance Armstrong's name has come up a bunch. And a good General Classification rider is often tiny in order to climb mountains well- Tour de France winner Egan Bernal is the same height as Jason Brown and weighs 5 kilos/12 pounds less than the skater in-season. The doping with EPO and such is all about staying lean and being able to handle 6-8 hours of heavy training per day, not about using a drug to directly build muscle mass.
Even German mass media is talking about it which is weird, since you never hear a thing about figure skating there. Even when Savhcenko-Massot won gold, they were quite silenced. I think most people from the Eastern countries know where all of this is coming from..
I think it's a bit of a cultural thing there. My impression of Germans are that they are very earnest and will work hard to correct what they see as past wrongs by their nation and that extends outward to other places as well. A family friend got involved in the anti-doping movement there during her time in the German parliament and she was pretty much of the opinion that you shouldn't even take an aspirin or Tylenol for aching muscles but should rather treat with rest instead.
As for appealing a CAS decision, there is a pathway to appeal to their decisions to the Swiss court if it is felt there is a pretty narrowly defined violation of the athlete's human rights in the CAS decision- was there discrimination regarding race, religion, gender, or ethnicity in the course of the decision?
The two appeals I can think of that reached that stage were Caster Semenya, who claimed that the IAAF's competition gender rules discriminated against black African women and whose appeal was denied and Sun Yang's second doping ban, where the Swiss court found that there was a case for bias in the decision because a member of the CAS panel had made a joke on social media that showed anti-Chinese bias. The court did not throw out Sun's ban because they found the facts of the case were not in dispute but did reduce the length of it from 8 years to 4 years.
The only way I could see a CAS appeal to Swiss courts here is that if Kamilla has a claim that she was somehow discriminated against because she came from an ethnic Muslim family and religious bias was in play. (IIRC, someone said she was a Tatar)
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They will definitely be studying and using this case when deciding on future age of participation
in different sports, as there was no possible option to protect her privacy once this started happening,
might also re examen sample shipment control while they're at it.
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