Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups

[Wafflecakes]

I am curious that, if she is on the podium.... will they give out the medals?

It makes no sense to hold the team medals but not the ladies while this is all hashed out.

 

[Wafflecakes]

I wonder how Brennan feels? Still, so much effort, did not wash for several days, slept in clothes. And the result is an extremely insightful anti-doping interview with Diana Davis.

Brennan loves it lets be honest. No matter how it turns out it meant more clicks for her.

Especially as the story will likely go on for months as the CAS hashes everything out (though they tipped their hand here that no one will ever be punished for doping/abusing a child).

 

[vorravorra]

So are they going to give out team medals or not?

 

[skated011]

I am curious that, if she is on the podium.... will they give out the medals?

It makes no sense to hold the team medals but not the ladies while this is all hashed out.

I'm more curious how the thread will be if Kamila wins

 

[Cilla70]

My thoughts as stated in the previous thread: Poor Jessica Catalang. If only she was 15, Russian, and a gold medal contender she wouldn't have missed worlds. A total joke. I wouldn't surprised if that was another underlying reason that she was allowed to skate: RATINGS. They're gonna need them, cause after this immediate firestorm dies down, even less people will care about this sport outside of Russia and Japan.

I thought about her situation also. This is a sad moment for figure skating. Pressure should be put on our individual federations to not back off and issue counter suits.

 

[Mista Ekko]

Ok, let's see tomorrow whose jumps are downgraded and URed.

Guys, this thread will probably reach a 100 pages before the Women's event starts
maybe we could take the Stan wars to a different battle ground?

 

[[email protected]]

Man you are desperate if that is all you can come up with. This ruling is crooked.

Someone taking a drug they got prior approval for that is often taken by people with ADHD at every age.

vs

A 15 year old taking a drug meant for elderly heart patient that she never got approval for.

No... you are right exactly the same.

Nope, ADHD is only treated with potent drugs in some countries and only when it is so strong that people can't concentrate on anything. This is hardly the case of Ms. Biles in the sport where the highest level of coordination and concentration is required. But for you, hypocrites, it does not matter.

 

[Wafflecakes]

I'm more curious how the thread will be if Kamila wins

Eh. Very little animosity towards Kamila herself here.

Only sadness that this means the ROC child abusers and dopers now get a free pass on another 4 years.

 

[skated011]

Brennan loves it lets be honest. No matter how it turns out it meant more clicks for her.

Especially as the story will likely go on for months as the CAS hashes everything out (though they tipped their hand here that no one will ever be punished for doping/abusing a child).

she needed a new salt lake scandal, anyways there will be changes the 17 year minimum senior phasing will be passed. banning quads in juniors and seniors is laughable, itight work but do it for men too. GENDER EQUALITY

 

[Mista Ekko]

I'm more curious how the thread will be if Kamila wins

IF she wins?

I'm assuming she wins, otherwise it'll be a huge upset.

 

[yume]

Wakaba Higuchi liked this tweet:

https://twitter.com/seimeiseb/status/1493115787237904385?t=Ehbo2WPkvDTiLzlIEnUFHg&s=19

I think we will be seeing alot more reactions like this in the coming day.

This is getting good.

 

[[email protected]]

Guys, this thread will probably reach a 100 pages before the Women's event starts
maybe we could take the Stan wars to a different battle ground?

"tell it to the marines"

 

[prorussian fan]

I wonder how Brennan feels? Still, so much effort, did not wash for several days, slept in clothes. And the result is an extremely insightful anti-doping interview with Diana Davis.

She said it's a dark day for the sport. LOL Of course when you are a nationalist fanatic, no reason or legal argument will make you change your mind.

 

[Alex Fedorov]

I am curious that, if she is on the podium.... will they give out the medals?

It makes no sense to hold the team medals but not the ladies while this is all hashed out.

The decision to hold the ceremony is not made by the CAS, in any case. As far as I understand, Kondratyuk remains in Beijing precisely for the award, while Semenenko and Mozalev have already left for Russia.

 

[skated011]

So are they going to give out team medals or not?

no, not until an investigation is concluded

 

[Mirunna]

I think the issue is, you could find a legal rationale for the opposite decision as well, especially if you cite the harms that would be caused to the clean athletes who would have to compete against Kamila in the same competition. So that makes me think they believe there's a higher chance of her being proven innocent, or they're more fearful of the backlash for that case vs. the backlash that they're receiving now. Which, considering everything we know, is sad (and frankly rather horrifying) in a different way.

Yes but the difference is that the harm against the other athletes may be mitigated after the investigation is Kami is stripped of her medal. I am not saying this is reparring the damage but at least it may gives them a closure of some sort. On the other hand if Kami is out, she is out irrespective of the conclusion of the investigation. I honestly do not think that they have an ideea at this point what to do with her case.

 

[*~RussianBleux~*]

She said it's a dark day for the sport. LOL Of course when you are a nationalist fanatic, no reason or legal argument will make you change your mind.

This is so rich lol

 

[Oreo]

Do you have a reliable source for that?

It's a quote from the head of the Russian Olympic Committee in an interview. Here's a translation:

“In accordance with WADA international standards for accredited anti-doping laboratories, this result should have been uploaded to the system within 20 days after receipt by the laboratory. Even if we take 20 days, this is the maximum period, it turns out that the sample was delivered to the Stockholm laboratory on January 19 , and handed over on December 25. That is, for almost a month she was walking somewhere, "Pozdnyakov said in an interview with the Sunday Time program on Channel One."

 

[[email protected]]

so Biles ADHD Drugs really didn't reach Japan ? I thought this was just a rumor, they said she was able to take it anyways.

Yes, it did but with a delay.

 

[Corwin]

This is a small victory on the part of Russian sport. The CAS has proven that it is a fairly impartial body, which takes neither political context nor commercial interests into account - relying solely on legal arguments and the principle of justice, which in this case was on the side of the athlete. The CAS pointed out the imperfection of the World Anti-Doping Code and the anti-doping rules developed on their basis. They emphasized that the issue of suspensions of protected persons had not been regulated properly.

Most importantly, they pointed out that irreparable harm would be done to the athlete if she was not allowed to participate in a personal tournament.As a result, she could either be found completely innocent or given a minimal punishment, but she could no longer be reinstated at the Olympics. A fair decision.