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What can Daisuke do to win?

Bennett

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It appears to be a disappointment for Daisuke that he couldn’t win GPF. Although he is one of the (many!) Gold contendars going into the Worlds, the competition is very very strong this season.

What would you think Daisuke may do going into the Worlds?

I feel that he may work more on his artistry in his LP. SP is so unique that LP may look relatively less impressive. The music is so overused that it’s really difficult to make it unique. But because this kind of romantic, dramatic music really suits his style, there would be a lot of room to make it look more original. And personally I would be happy if he changes his costume :p.

I also feel that he would work on steps to ensure that he will get level 4's in all of them. And spins and two quads in LP???
 
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He can continue to be himself, and look forward to a different panel of judges. He can also pray the ISU headquarters move to Tokyo, some time soon. I can't think of anything else.
 
Any of Lambiel, Takahashi, and Joubert can win Worlds, it will come down to who makes fewer mistakes, and who the judges favorite is. Takahashi was the judges favorite at the GP final, was overscored at the GP final especialy in the short program, and still couldnt quite win.
 
Any of Lambiel, Takahashi, and Joubert can win Worlds, it will come down to who makes fewer mistakes, and who the judges favorite is. Takahashi was the judges favorite at the GP final, was overscored at the GP final especialy in the short program, and still couldnt quite win.

I don't really think Daisuke was the judges' favorite in the GPF--when he got a higher score than Stephane in the sp, barely, it meant he'd have to skate last in the lp, after Stephane, which wasn't necessarily an advantage. If the judges had wanted to hold him up in the lp, they could have. Anyway, Stephane deserved the win, but I still like both of Daisuke's programs, and he's still my favorite skater. :)
 
It's very simple. Skate clean and land both of his quads.

He says in an interview that he doesn't miss a quad in his practices unless he is tired or something. So perhaps he may be able to land both quads.


BTW, why doesn't he do a conventional sit spin position? He has a low position and a high position. But I like the conventional position better. Does he score higher with these two unusual positions?
 
He says in an interview that he doesn't miss a quad in his practices unless he is tired or something. So perhaps he may be able to land both quads.

I remember him saying at Worlds that his legs were shaking badly because of nervousness.

BTW, why doesn't he do a conventional sit spin position? He has a low position and a high position. But I like the conventional position better. Does he score higher with these two unusual positions?

He has difficulty with the conventional position, but needed to adopt the super-low one because the COP rules changed this season, and made it necessary to not use only the higher one. He has gotten better with it since the season started--it's much faster than it used to be. And his high position doesn't seem quite as high as it was at one point. Maybe by next season he can get the conventional position.
 
I remember him saying at Worlds that his legs were shaking badly because of nervousness.

Then, perhaps he can land them unless he is tired or nervous:agree:

He has difficulty with the conventional position, but needed to adopt the super-low one because the COP rules changed this season, and made it necessary to not use only the higher one. He has gotten better with it since the season started--it's much faster than it used to be. And his high position doesn't seem quite as high as it was at one point. Maybe by next season he can get the conventional position.

So do you mean the high position was his conventional position and the super-low position was incorporated to adjust to new rules? But I don't really understand why the conventional position could be difficult for him. It's so basic and he seems to have all the other basics. Besides, I wonder if a sit spin really needs to be that low in the first place. The super-low position looks so much more difficult to center the revolution.
 
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He's a top 3 (maybe 4) competitor. He has to do one better than the other 2(3). I think he can do it. Much depends on the mishaps of all.

Joe
 
Daisuke I think has it all to win, he just needs to put it together when it counts and do two relitively error free performances in the short and in the long.

Look how close he came to Lambiel at the GP final, if Lambiel didn't have such great inbetween moves it would've been Daisuke's gold.

I think at worlds he will win a medal just to win he'll need to do what i just mentioned above.
 
He doesn't need two quads in lp. He just needs to land one quad and land all three combinations, which he has mostly failed to do this season.
 
if he lands a clean quad in the freeskate he could do it. A clean quad in the SP and the Free, he has it in the bag.
 
IMO, Takahashi should have won the GPF. Lambiel fell on his quad attempt, but it wasn't counted as a fall because as he said: "my butt didn't touch the ice". I have seen similar falls since, and they have been counted as falls. The scores were so close that the -1 would have given the gold medal to Takahashi.
 
I think he has a great chance to win if he skates clean. In my opinion, his short program is one of the best this season.
 
He has the short in the bag.
However, being first in the short, that would put a HUGE amount of pressure on him in the long. Can he handle it?
I think we are in agreement that he needs to be able to land one if not two quads in the long and make sure everything else has high levels..........
 
IMO, Takahashi should have won the GPF. Lambiel fell on his quad attempt, but it wasn't counted as a fall because as he said: "my butt didn't touch the ice". I have seen similar falls since, and they have been counted as falls. The scores were so close that the -1 would have given the gold medal to Takahashi.

I am still scratching my head on that one. As much as I like Lambiel's LP program Daiskue was better that night. JMO
 
IMO, Takahashi should have won the GPF. Lambiel fell on his quad attempt, but it wasn't counted as a fall because as he said: "my butt didn't touch the ice". I have seen similar falls since, and they have been counted as falls. The scores were so close that the -1 would have given the gold medal to Takahashi.

I disagree. Lambiel had better spins, footwork, choreography, and expression than Takahashi and Stephane has a better long program overall in design, IMO. The judges appear to think so too! Stephane's only major problems were the turn out of the 3Axel and the hand down, two footed landing of the 4toe. I think if one is to argue that his quad at the GPF deserves a -1 fall deduction, then history needs to be re-written for many other skaters' performances in the past, for example Sasha Cohen's 3flip fall out in the 2006 Olympics LP. The way I see it, he did not fall, but he did land on two feet in a squat position and put his hand down to prevent the fall; therefore, he should not be deducted for something he prevented. Rightfully so, Dai beat him in the TES marks, but also rightfully so, Stephane beat Dai in the PCS.
 
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I am still scratching my head on that one. As much as I like Lambiel's LP program Daiskue was better that night. JMO

Yes, Daiskue was very good, but not perfect. His spins, usually pretty good were not on that night and some of his positions looked sloppy. He had to skate right after Lambiel who has (as we all know) perfect spins that are like 4 times faster and that Flamenco program which muct have gotten huge PCS scores.
 
Daisuke doesn't need much to win. He just has no stay calm, not let the stress get to him, and skate well. Out of all of the competitors, he's the best placed to win.
 
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