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Protocols

mizu_iro

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Protocols are out for the pairs. A quick rundown of the top 5 long programs:

The Germans received positive GOEs on everything but their jump sequence (-1.29 for Aliona's wild landing on the first and Robin's stepout on the second, which isn't enough I think) and the 3S (judged as a fall). All of their lifts were judged level 4s, except the triple twist was a level 2. This I disagree with - one of their lifts had an awkward dismount and should have merited significant negative GOE. Their throws also got high GOEs - 1.56 on the flip (too low) and 1.00 on the salchow (about right). Their steps were level 3.

Dube & Davison got level 2 on their twist and level 4s on everything else save the steps (level 3). They got a very small -GOE for the throw lutz (0.50) and everything else was positive GOE. This looks about correct - they were kept behind by their lower base mark.

The Zhangs were hurt by level 1 on their steps (ABSOLUTELY) and negative GOEs on their SBS jump elements. Their triple twist only merited a level 1, and their spiral sequence, spins and one of their lifts were level 3 (as opposed to 4 for the Germans and Canadians).

Kawaguchi/Smirnov were hurt by level 1 on their steps (I think at least level 2) and twist. The 3T sequence really hurt them (credit for just 1 3T at 80% value and negative GOE) and they had one level 3 lift, level 4 on all other elements. The quad received very slight negative GOE.

Pang/Tong - OK, THIS is where the judging was seriously screwed up. Underrotation calls on the 3T and the second 2A in their sequence, which I don't think were deserved. Apparently one of them only did a single axel on the first one - didn't catch that. Their triple twist was also level 1, as was their pairs spin (I think it was at least level 3, in comparison to the other teams) and their spiral sequence was level 3 as well.

I don't necessarily think it was the judging. I think it was more the technical caller's fault. The Zhangs have been getting higher levels all season. This does make S/S's win more understandable, though...their program is structured in a way that even with mistakes, it still scores high under COP.
 
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Dube & Davison got level 2 on their twist and level 4s on everything else save the steps (level 3). They got a very small -GOE for the throw lutz (0.50) and everything else was positive GOE. This looks about correct - they were kept behind by their lower base mark.

I think they got it right for D/D. Their twist looked a little shaky to me
 
Disappointing about P/T being hurt on the jumps. They've always receieved lower levels than the Germans and other top teams.

Surprising that Z/Z got lower levels tonight than in the past with this program. I wonder if they will argue.
 
Pang/Tong - OK, THIS is where the judging was seriously screwed up. Underrotation calls on the 3T and the second 2A in their sequence, which I don't think were deserved. Apparently one of them only did a single axel on the first one - didn't catch that. Their triple twist was also level 1, as was their pairs spin (I think it was at least level 3, in comparison to the other teams) and their spiral sequence was level 3 as well.

I think it's true about the single Axel. My sister noticed it right away. But the stupid camera didn't make it clear for me.
 
Disappointing about P/T being hurt on the jumps. They've always receieved lower levels than the Germans and other top teams.

Surprising that Z/Z got lower levels tonight than in the past with this program. I wonder if they will argue.

Z/Z skated before S/S and I think that means that the judges didn't plan to hold the Germans up. The program of the night was D/D - but I still prefered S/S over Z/Z. I thought Z/Z were horrible. There was no connection, they were slow and somehow choppy in their movements, there were no connections between the movements. Didn't like it.

Surprised about Pant/Tong - I noticed the single Axel, but didn't think that they underrotated the second one or the Triple Toe. Explains their scores though.
 
seems like both Yu-na and Mao got level 1 on their spirals in the SP. I think that if there is one GLARING error in this juging system that is it. We all know Mao has the best spirals there, at least the best out of the top four and she get a 1 while carolina gets a 4. crazy.
 
The men's competition had great judging - no complaints from me here.
Jeffrey and Sergei Voronov both had no negative GOE in the long :bow:
 
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