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for those who don't know me yet LOL ( i am quite outspoken so anyway) I love many sports... after a lot of figure skating i watched sports without judges to relieve tension :)

So tonight, I decided to watch tennis... Big match for Andreescu who is finding her form after so many injuries... and of course, she exited the court on a wheelchair...

maybe it's all my fault guys... the bad judging, the tennis injuries... blame 4everchan.... Mea culpa.

I hope Bibi gets well soon but it looks like a major ankle injury.

PS I am NOT posting a video of this on purpose. It does exist.
I watch a ton of other judged sports. Football season is over so they are all that’s left.
 
I watch a ton of other judged sports. Football season is over so they are all that’s left.
I do too... and yet, figure skating is the worst... I have rarely felt a wuzrobbed watching diving for instance... I don't watch footbal... i mean i am assuming you watch American footbal... i prefer "soccer"
 
I do too... and yet, figure skating is the worst... I have rarely felt a wuzrobbed watching diving for instance... I don't watch footbal... i mean i am assuming you watch American footbal... i prefer "soccer"
Or ski jumping, which I've always completely loved (watching only though, since I cannot do heights).

I mean, in what world does it make sense that Chock/Bates got a season's best with a fall? Unless, of course, the fix was in...
 
well.. in any case, I will be watching the swimming trials... no judges... injuries by freak accidents are very rare in swimming, so it may be okay for me to watch.... for those interesting, Brooke's sister, Summer, is probably going to shine big time... Many people are already talking about how epic the 400 free could be at Paris games with American Ledecky and Australian Titmus, competing with Summer for the podium spots...
 
ski jumping
I love it, but unfortunately we had the Oly 22 Mixed or the small hill comp from Seefeld or just this season the one in Planica.. urgh.
When the Jury (not judges) messes up, those competitions also can turn farce-ish easily.
 
May I present rhythmic gymnastics as a very valid contender for that title?

(Though funnily enough, since Russia has been banned, judging has been a lot better... Must be a coincidence, right?)
Yes, something similar to only Russians having stable ultra-c jumps?
 
Yes, something similar to only Russians having stable ultra-c jumps?
No technical advantage, that's not really how rhythmic gymnastics generally works.

What Russia acutally had, was political power and influence. Also goes by the name of Irina Viner (used to go by Irina Viner-Usmanova, but I guess building her a hotel with a huge rhythmic gymnastics palace was still not enough for her to stay).

Or how Margarita Mamun would put it: "Dictator is a very rude word. She's more like a 19th century queen, which means, she rules, she controls everything, and she makes decisions."

I'm sure you can imagine the kind of woman she is.
 
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Glad i never got into rythmic gymnastics...
Last season was probably the best chance you had, it was all very wholesome, supportive and unpredictable (who would have guessed that Germany (didn't even qualify an individual rhythmic gymnast for the 2021 Olympics) would get Worlds team silver). Now... With the impending return of certain gymnasts, I'm not as optimistic anymore.

As pictures say more than a thousand words:



Though this is the last I will say on the topic, as it has gone quite off course from the intended topic of this thread, forgive me 🙈
 
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Well, yes when it comes to judged sports, rhythmic gymnastic is up there too but I can also never make heads or tails of artistic swimming. So kudos to Summer today for making it very clear with a timed win and world record. No PCS points needed. Now back to skating...
 
Well, yes when it comes to judged sports, rhythmic gymnastic is up there too but I can also never make heads or tails of artistic swimming. So kudos to Summer today for making it very clear with a timed win and world record. No PCS points needed. Now back to skating...
Artistic swimming is even more niche.. so even harder to comprehend because we simply do not know what is difficult to do... but experts do so... Watching with a good analyst can be enlightening... I used to follow it in the Canadian golden era... a long time ago... and one could tell what was good or not... it was a bit more obvious... with the teams, I find it harder to figure out.. but it's also because I do not follow it much anymore...

Really, I think figure skating is the sport that creates the most controversies with judging, yet there are solid rules that could be applied better.
 
To change the subject a bit. Any one have any word on Gabby? I mean if she was fit would she not have been chosen for WTT. Also wonder if Kaiya's team may have asked that she not be sent to WTT to give her a shorter season with her just coming back from a major injury. I mean she did only do 1 International back in the fall and I am sure that was so she could try and get her mins and she also was not chosen for 4CC.
 


Nadiia's JWC vlog is up.



This aired on The National yesterday night, a companion piece to the article on the McIntosh sisters.
 
I mean, in what world does it make sense that Chock/Bates got a season's best with a fall? Unless, of course, the fix was in...
Those scores in ice dance were trending up in both ice dance event segments! I think it was indicative of the huge depth of talent in ice dance, among other factors.

Most teams were receiving Season's best scores, regardless of whether their performances were the best of the season. LOL!

I don't think the Italians deserved to be on the podium in silver position over Piper/Paul. Ice dance and pairs teams who won Euros (both from Italy) clearly got a political boost at Worlds. Meanwhile, Piper/ Paul lost momentum due to Piper's surgery and recovery preventing them from competing at 4CCs.

I think F-B/S deserved to be on the podium. If anything, the Italians in 4th, and the Brits in 5th. Chock/ Bates already had a huge lead in the RD, so they were bound to win. The fall was not on an element. If it had been, they would have lost more points. Sure, the very high score was surprising. Still, the fall received a deduction. The fact is, C/B improved their programs and became stronger over the course of the season. So, it was one of their season's best performances, even with the fall.

FYI -- in ice dance and in fs altogether, "the fix is always in," politically, and in terms of reputation and perception scoring. Who knows if/ when judges have consensus understandings in general, regarding placements? They do tend to watch practices, which is part of the perception process. Sometimes great performances or poor performances factor in. The Czechs finally placed over their rivals, the Finnish team.

The interesting thing to me is how the scores kept trending high. Most teams were overjoyed with their scores in the kiss 'n cry, only to see the scores continue to move higher for other competitors. Another factor that can't be ruled out is that the judging panel didn't seem to want two Canadian teams nor two I.AM teams on the podium.

Honestly, the Canadians were given the short end of the stick in pairs too. Deanna/Max should have at least placed third in the sp. It was clear to me that no matter what, Conti/Maci of Italy were being favorited for bronze, with Miura/Kihara favorited for gold. Meanwhile, Lia/Trennt skated well, and were treated well by the judges as a new team making their Worlds debut. At least Piper/ Paul were not shut out of the podium. Without a doubt though, they lost momentum having to skip 4CCs. It seems as if F-B/S were being regarded as second place Canadians seen as expendable. As I said, I think they should have been on the podium, not the Italians.

It is what it is, but Piper/ Paul did not lose ground because of C/B getting season's best with a fall.

Most of all, I despise what happened to Conrad Orzel. He had a very good season. Unfortunately, he had one pop in the sp at Worlds, and he lost a bunch of points despite landing a quad. That, combined with low PCS, and skating in the first group because he's new to Worlds, deep-sixed his chances to make the cut. The men were excellent from top to bottom. We witnessed a very high caliber of competitive talent. I just don't think the ISU should have decided to cut 10 guys in the sp. 😯😳

Moreover, clearly certain guys were protected in the sp, including Nick Starostin of Germany, Sota Yamamoto of Japan, and Morisi K of Georgia by way of Russia. 🙄
 
Conrad paid a very high price for skating in the first group. Let's imagine for a second he would have just landed a triple toe... because he has done at times, a one quad program... add 5 points.. and he still barely qualifies... this just shows how little reward he got from judges in terms of GOE and PCS. He has a good coach, able to steer him in the right psychological direction. The goal this year was to improve his overall skating. Mission accomplished. Making the team for worlds, WOW ! I didn't expect that to happen at the beginning of the season. So overall, a great season for Conrad with the hope that he does learn from it....

But yeah... Skate Canada missed the opportunity to stand behind him... they should have sent him to WTT... but no... sigh...
 
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