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What did you think of kimmie?

Perhaps dealing with growing and still trying to continue college is just too much to deal with at the same time.

Kimmie said somthing in the fluff piece that made me think. She was saying that she was dealing with a lot in her private life as well as trying to skate well all the time. Just made me think... kimmie is growing up. And take it from me, there is nothing like boy problems to hurt your confidence and distract you. Believe me it has happened to me.
 
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I hope she can come back and have one really good season. So then she can go to college. I don't believe she can be truly competitve over the long term with the tiny jumping beans. She is a very good skater with one World Championship and a National Championship. That is something to be proud of.
 
Who was that woman who asked "WHY?" in such a snarky tone when Kimmie said she was happy about her skate? I wanted to literally grab her foot and put it in her mouth:mad:
I can't say for sure that I want to see her at worlds in LA, but I hope she continues to work with Callaghan and finds programs that really suit her. Good job Kimmie!
 
I have been a huge fan of Kimmie's for a few years now. I really think that she has it in her to do better. She has had a rough year and it is hard to keep focused on skating when your personal life is going crazy. I think that she should stay with Richard Callaghan and STOP using Lori Nichols. She needs music very much like her short program in 2006. It has enough pizazz to keep the audience in but it is not so flashy that it is awkard for her. She never ceases to amaze me with her talent and her personality. I re-watched her programs from nationals and worlds and the quality of her skating looks much better. Callagahan has already worked wonders with her. I really do believe that not only could she make it to worlds, but she has the chance to win. Sometimes it just takes a season like this season was fo her to figure out if she really does loves to skate still and how much it really is worth it. Nobody should EVER count Kimmie out.

On another note, does anybody know if her fluff piece is on Youtube? I missed the airing of ESPN and I dont think I can wait until Thursday for it to re-air to see it.
 
I think it is so odd that I always hear without 3/3's it's going to be hard to compete with the younger crowd... Kimmie, is only 18....so I guess she's old and needs to retire..LOL I thought it was funny when they were calling Julia Sybastian from HUN grandma.. Yes, Kimmie may be past her prime due to the fact puberty has set in and she doesn't have that thinner child body.. Maybe she has accepted this fact already.. She does already have her World gold.. Hopefully, Flatt, Nasagu and Zhang will rise to the Sr ladies podiums next year.. After they turn 17 I guess it's all downhill for them too...LOL


Lets think about this.... 18 is not old but for the women skaters there is a tiny window of oppurtunity (in a skaters life) where your body and jumps cooperate and it looks effortless. (I think the only exception over the years was Michelle Kwan.) Everyone knows what skaters are coming up. Kimmie has been very successful and could probably skip college and make alot of money as a pro. I know if it were me I'd take my opportunity to make some money while I'm still young enough to have fun doing it.
Last year at Scott Hamilitons fund raiser for The Cleveland Clinic she skated in the show it was a joy to watch her skate and enjoy herself.
I just think when you have the world of oppurtunities she has sometimes the decision to move on with your life is just that a decision only she can make.
 
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Kimmie said somthing in the fluff piece that made me think. She was saying that she was dealing with a lot in her private life as well as trying to skate well all the time. Just made me think... kimmie is growing up. And take it from me, there is nothing like boy problems to hurt your confidence and distract you. Believe me it has happened to me.

Yea, I remember her talking about her personal problems have affected her all season. But I feel it has something to do with her parents. Just speculating!
 
BtW I just re-watched Kimmie's SP here http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6484950dcTwA9MM check out the slow motion footage... it was a flip!!! That call deduction for lippin was not true, I certainly dont see a lip there.

I didn't either, it looks like she probably went onto the flat but it was close enough it should have been called in her favor as a true flip (that's how ambiguous cases are supposed to be decided).
 
Kimmie is a junior skater in every sense of the term who does senior competitions.
Still -- she's got something that senior skaters Carolina Kostner, Yu-na Kim, Yukari Nakano, Joannie Rochette, Sarah Meier and a cast of thousands do not.
 
Given that Rochette is 22 and continues to make improvements in her consistency, although she has had up-and-down results with having 3-3's in competition, I feel there is a chance Kimmie can make a comeback vis-a-vis the jumps.

And, I'm tempted to say she's had two relatively "bad" seasons, but, actually, when I think about it, her 2006-2007 season wasn't that bad. I liked her programs quite well, and remember feeling she was undermarked at several comps. So many internet posters seemed to think the music was a bad fit, but she and Gregory specifically said they chose that season to try to stretch her artistically. At the end of the season, she said she would go back to music that felt more comfortable to her. I'm not actually sure that she did -- although she said she felt a real connection to Nessun Dorma, it didn't seem a good fit for her to me. But I love her SP music cuts and the way she interpreted that music.

Although the most recent media comments from Kimmie were that this season's problems were mental, it still seems there's a technique issue going on. And technique problems plus mental/emotional/confidence issues can combine to become a vicious downward spiral. So she's got a lot to overcome.

As I mentioned in another thread, although her Worlds performance was a bit of an improvement over Nationals, it still had 2 falls, the jumps that were landed were small, and I don't think she "sold" the program. Kimmie's media comments to me seemed frankly too optimistic/positive. I do realize you have to talk a positive game, but I would have been more impressed with, "I'm glad/proud to have improved since Nationals, but I realize I still have a long way to go and I'm looking forward to next season" rather than her seeming so absolutely delighted and chipper. The reason that bothers me is that it just doesn't seem to acknowledge the reality of the situation, and if she doesn't realize that, she's not going to be too mentally ready to tackle the problems.

So, having said ALL THAT (another long post from me), I sadly don't see Kimmie turning it around. But I hope like anything she proves me wrong!

ETA: After the 2006 Olys, Kimmie on another FS forum got soundly, loudly, and longly criticized -- but ridiculously so, IMO -- for having a so-called "sour" look on her face when her impressive early scores finally began getting surpassed in the final group(s). I didn't follow this board then, so I don't know if that criticism was widespread, but it was close to vicious and silly, because to me Kimmie's expression seemed more like "I'll do better and show them next time" determined than "sour," and anyway, she was in the stands and talking at the time, and the expression could have been about anything, not necessarily the scores that were being posted. But maybe she got wind about that flack, or maybe just had some media training, or whatever, and has absorbed a "smile no matter what" message.
 
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I think that if Kimmie stays with Callaghan whe will do much better next season. Lets see what her decision is...hopefully she will make it soon.
 
Kimmie is a junior skater in every sense of the term who does senior competitions.

I don't think so. After watching Jr competitions, the differences between them and the seniors are quite noticable. One of the biggest differences is the speed of their skating.

I, personally, have been spoiled by the likes of Michelle Kwan, who was a true artist on the ice. I find every single one of the current senior ladies skaters to be much more reserved and less expressive. It's not even their faults because this new scoring system is so demanding. They have to worry about making sure all the intricacies of their footwork are completed and that they spin enough revolutions, rather than concentrate on selling the programs and relating to an audience. I don't think this makes any of them juniorish... just different.

Yes, Kimmie's arms need to be softer at times, but I don't think that makes her juniorish either. Most of the Senior ladies have something they need to fix. For every Kimmie "airplane arm", there is an awkward Kostner moment or a bent-leg spiral from Yu-Na. You get the idea. But there are still great qualities about all of these ladies, including Kimmie. Her skating is definitely more sophisticated than it used to be.
 
I'm surprised to hear myself saying that I think Kimmie has turned the corner artistically, and that impresses me a lot. I feel sure she can get her jumps back if she really wants to. How big an "if" that may be, I don't know. It entails a lot of sacrifice. To me, she doesn't seem like a "natural" the way Mao and Yu Na, or Mirai and Caroline, do. But hey - the ant has been known to outdo the grasshopper. I would think it is clear to her now just how much work and sacrifice that would take. We'll see if she's up for it.

I doubt Kimmie will ever be one of my favorite skaters, but I rooted for her at Worlds and enjoyed watching her (apart from the sad falls), and wish her the best.
 
The German Eurosport commentators were talking a lot about how they admire her for coming to the Worlds and fighting. They consider her to be very gutsy and hope that she can regain her old form because they think it's so amazing that she decided to stay in the sport despite the big title she won and despite the rather awful setbacks during the last two seasons.

I was also impressed, she developed her own style and fought throughout both programs. I would be so glad if she managed a top two finish at Nationals and therefore went to Worlds once again. She seems to have a good relationship with her coach and I hope she stays with him. It's very tough to leave your home and family, but she is 18 (I think) and lots of young people leave their homes at 18 - so it would be quite normal.

Good job, Kimmie! :rock:
 
BtW I just re-watched Kimmie's SP here http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6484950dcTwA9MM check out the slow motion footage... it was a flip!!! That call deduction for lippin was not true, I certainly dont see a lip there.

that was POSITIVELY a lip. I think that kimmie has a nice lutz, one of the few ladies who have a true lutz, but shehas a very bad outside edge going into her flip. I hope she can fix this, or else change into doing a 3 loop in the SP.

Kimmie is a junior skater in every sense of the term who does senior competitions.

kimmie does not seem like a junior skater to me, just not a very artistic senior. Not all senior skaters are artistic.
 
that was POSITIVELY a lip. I think that kimmie has a nice lutz, one of the few ladies who have a true lutz, but shehas a very bad outside edge going into her flip. I hope she can fix this, or else change into doing a 3 loop in the SP.



kimmie does not seem like a junior skater to me, just not a very artistic senior. Not all senior skaters are artistic.

You prolly know more about skatin than me, but talkin to many ppl that know better than me about the jumps, they tend to agree with me or at least give that jump the benefit of doubt. Actually Callaghan said on an interview that jump was a flip!!!

I will quote this from Candus Thomson, a baltimore sports journalist for the baltimoresun: "In one tiny bit of controversy, Callaghan questioned the judges downgrading Meissner for taking off on the wrong edge and executing a triple lutz rather than a triple flip in the short program. Ironically, the lutz is a harder jump than the flip.

Callaghan, an elite-level coach for three decades, said he would review a DVD of her performance.

“If it’s true, I’ll be annoyed,” said Callaghan. “It was a very good flip and it came up on the [scoring] screen right away as a flip.”
 
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