Grand Prix Assignments 2023/24 released

[Kris135]

The one woman who may have a reason to complian is Ava Marie Ziegler. She had a stronger season last year compared Audrey Shin and look she got 2 and Ava got nothing. Unless she gets the final host spot from Skate America she will not have a GP. Last year Ava got 4th at Skate Canada and won a Challenger Series event. Audrey basically had 2 GP's and 1 Challenger event and she was no higher than 4th so why does she have 2 GP's and Ava has none. I would like to tell somebody at USFS this. You need to develop young talent and she may one of the strongest ones we have after Isabeau who is not in her mid to late 20's.

I am thrilled for Lucas. I know he was moving to senior but I thought it would only domestically but to get a GP as a first year senior is wonderful. If another slot opens up and USA has to fill it they should pick him for. It would be good for him to get some more international experience and maybe have a chance to make the GPF, not likely but possible with how volatile the mens event at some GP's can be, and most critically get his minimums for World's or 4CC's because I have a feeling he may need them because I think that he may have a very good chance make the World team for Montreal.

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[Paulipau]

The one woman who may have a reason to complian is Ava Marie Ziegler.

As much as I like Gracie and her story I hope that USFS will know better and give the host spot to Ava.

 

[JustSomeGuy]

The one woman who may have a reason to complian is Ava Marie Ziegler. She had a stronger season last year compared Audrey Shin and look she got 2 and Ava got nothing. Unless she gets the final host spot from Skate America she will not have a GP. Last year Ava got 4th at Skate Canada and won a Challenger Series event. Audrey basically had 2 GP's and 1 Challenger event and she was no higher than 4th so why does she have 2 GP's and Ava has none. I would like to tell somebody at USFS this. You need to develop young talent and she may one of the strongest ones we have after Isabeau who is not in her mid to late 20's.

USFS don't get a whole lot of say in who gets assignments outside of Skate America, and it's based largely on the season's best and World Ranking lists, after last season's worlds placements.
Audrey Shin is still 15th in the world standings list, which I believe is high enough to guarantee her one assignment, whereas Ava Marie Ziegler is joint 40th, which isn't high enough to guarantee an assignment. World ranking points include multiple seasons with more points for senior events than junior events, so Shin has an advantage there in that she has been competing (senior) longer and has accrued more points.
I'm pretty sure Shin is higher on the Season's best ranking, too, but I may be wrong and I don't think either are high enough to be guaranteed a spot that way.
What USFS need to be doing is sending Zeigler to competitions where she can earn ranking points, so that she can secure assignments for next year.

 

[soccerjc77]

I hope that the host spot for skate america will be for Gracie Gold ! She was great at skate america last year and her story is inspiring. And, she sell ticket easily just for her name.

 

[soccerjc77]

Hope to see Gabby Daleman in some Senior B since that she doesn't have any GP assignment.

 

[Weetos]

Oh good spot! Oh no that makes me sad - I think they were def moving up to seniors.

James turned 21 October last year, so no they are not eligible for juniors this season.

Still crossing my fingers there will be some changes and they will get a spot...

 

[snowflake]

Skate America with Kevin, Deniss, Andrew and Andreas, I need a valium, alcohol will not be enough.

LOL, yes Skate America, what a grand start of men’s GP season! The other disciplines there not as exciting for me. I forgot it is in Texas. Will figure skating fans go there? Is Allen a nice town?

 

[mrrice]

Jimmy is in good company, though—of the US men, only Ilia & Camden got two spots

The mens’ spots are sort of oddly distributed. Aymoz did not get the French GP; Shoma has nothing in the first half; Camden did not get GP Finland…

How did Camden end up with 2 spots and Jimmy with 1? Better yet, why doesn't Andrew have 2 spots? Are their still host picks available?

 

[gleungc6]

How did Camden end up with 2 spots and Jimmy with 1? Better yet, why doesn't Andrew have 2 spots? Are their still host picks available?

My guess is because Camden has more points than Jimmy on the world rankings list, who in turn has more points than Andrew. Camden also has a higher SB than both, and I think GP spots are determined by Worlds finish, world rankings, and SB scores.

 

[mrrice]

My guess is because Camden has more points than Jimmy on the world rankings list, who in turn has more points than Andrew. Camden also has a higher SB than both, and I think GP spots are determined by Worlds finish, world rankings, and SB scores.

I always forget that. Well, hopefully Andrew will get another spot. It was great to see him skate so well at Nationals and I hope he can keep the momentum. I have always loved Camden's skating. Sadly, he can be brilliant at one event and then tank the next one.

 

[snowflake]

How did Camden end up with 2 spots and Jimmy with 1? Better yet, why doesn't Andrew have 2 spots? Are their still host picks available?

Andrew didn't compete for two seasons and is in place 110 on the worlds ranking. His only hope was a host spot. He got Skate America which he deserves! I doubt he is eligible for another, but hope to see him in a challenger or two where he can show his best.

Here is the World standings

 

[TT_Fin]

Happy for Andreas(SWE) getting two spots. Skate America and Espoo. I guess Finland gave him a host spot. Super impressed with how far he's got since his come back in 21/22. Curiously waiting for his programs.

Probably so. Asking a Swede local Fed may think to try get some Swedes to audience, too. I checked rankings. Josefin is just ahead of the best Finn Janna. Finland has 9 women in worlds ranking, but I could give a spot to Josefin and two to local women if I was asked. But probably they won't do so and if the local Fed did so, they will get a lot of critic because we have enough local women.

 

[snowflake]

Probably so. Asking a Swede local Fed may think to try get some Swedes to audience, too. I checked rankings. Josefin is just ahead of the best Finn Janna. Finland has 9 women in worlds ranking, but I could give a spot to Josefin and two to local women if I was asked. But probably they won't do so and if the local Fed did so, they will get a lot of critic because we have enough local women.

Nice of you but I think Finfed should encourage their own. There'll be other competitions for Josefin.

As for Andreas(apart from being a great skater to enjoy and bringing Swedish fans) I think it's also a way to help him for the future. At least I hope the Nordic countries cooperate like this as I think they do.

 

[4everchan]

I’m going to Skate Canada so I’m so excited to see them but I’m very underwhelmed by the overall line up for that competition. I don’t understand why Skate Canada wouldn’t have at least included LaLa or FB-S at their home competition. Skate America has C/B and Gr/Pa which makes sense!

To give Lala and FBS chances to be at GPF. As simple as that. Also, to give two teams who are not necessarily going to be invited elsewhere a GP... Lala and FBS were guaranteed two spots.

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

And also Lucas Broussard (Cup of China). He's one the skaters this season I'm very interested in . I want to see how he transitions to the senior rank.

A lot could happen between now and US Nationals, so I haven't penciled in my World Team quite yet. LOL

I also saw the Instagram of Jason getting new choreo from Birthday Boy Rohene. No hints as to music, alas.

Speaking of music and choreo, have there been any clues from Ilia? I'm hoping for something in a different direction this year.

Yep thx, I forgot to include Lucas. When I tried to edit, I ended up getting kicked off the website for technical reasons related to "too many redirections." So, it has been an adventure for me being able to access the site again and getting logged back in. Just when the GP assignments are announced, and there's so much to say. I don't know if this happens to anyone else here. It has something to do with 'https' security feature, SSL certificate, and "too many redirections."

ETA:
I enjoy Lucas Broussard's skating too! He had a very good JGP season last year, but then he ran into problems at junior Worlds. However, I don't think the judges scored everyone fairly at that event.

The Swiss skater, Naoki Rossi, for example, is talented and interesting, but his jump technique is very messy. He needs to clean up his technique and polish things up a bit before receiving such high scores.

 

[Ruthypegs]

I don't think my budget will allow me to go to any Grand Prix except Angers, sadly. I'm not too excited about the men's line-up at that event, but there are some great teams in pairs and ice-dance there!

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

The US fed only controls their own GP assignments. For SKAM, they picked Ilia to bring in the crowd, which is completely expected, Andrew and Naumov. Lucas, Camden, Liam and Jimmy were invited by the other GP hosts, so I am not so sure how much USFED had a say in how that turned out. For Liam, it's a no-brainer as he does train in the Vancouver area where the event will be held, just like SKAM invited Gogolev who trains in the USA.

Well sure. A lot of it has to do with the skaters' standings and results from the previous season. Some fans are experts on how GP assignments work, with exacting knowledge of alternate lists, etc. Kudos to those fans. I'm not an expert myself.

I realize that U.S. fed makes their own selections for Skate America. The choices are surely heavily reliant on which skaters may be or have been selected by other GP host countries. For e.g., in pairs, Chan/Howe were requested by China and Japan. Thus, U.S. figure skating invited Miura/ Kihara, who will be favorites to win. If Alexa/ Brandon were still competing and in the mix at SA, M/K would be less likely to be invited, since top one and two teams don't tend to face off until the GPF.

 

[4everchan]

Well sure. A lot of it has to do with the skaters' standings and results from the previous season. Some fans are experts on how GP assignments work, with exacting knowledge of alternate lists, etc. Kudos to those fans. I'm not an expert myself.

I realize that U.S. fed makes their own selections for Skate America. The choices are surely heavily reliant on which skaters may be or have been selected by other GP host countries. For e.g., in pairs, Chan/Howe were requested by China and Japan. Thus, U.S. figure skating invited Miura/ Kihara, who will be favorites to win. If Alexa/ Brandon were still competing and in the mix at SA, M/K would be less likely to be invited, since top one and two teams don't tend to face off until the GPF.

Theu USfed did what they thought was in the best interest of their own pairs when dealing with assignments of course. Chan and Howe were guaranteed two spots. That is not the case for all US pairs... so by not having Chan and Howe are SKAM, it allows the USFed to invite a pair who may not have been invited elsewhere. Miura and Kihara : they knew that going to Canada might not work out this year. SD/D are seeded 3rd (with KF not being there) and as Canadian champions, SCI would want them at home. SD/D, M/K and the Italians C/M cannot be in the same GPs.

 

[moonvine]

My guess is because Camden has more points than Jimmy on the world rankings list, who in turn has more points than Andrew. Camden also has a higher SB than both, and I think GP spots are determined by Worlds finish, world rankings, and SB scores.

I hope Jimmy ends up with another spot through withdrawals. I just looked at the world standings and if I'm reading it correctly he's pretty high up the list.

 

[moonvine]

Yep thx, I forgot to include Lucas. When I tried to edit, I ended up getting kicked off the website for technical reasons related to "too many redirections." So, it has been an adventure for me being able to access the site again and getting logged back in. Just when the GP assignments are announced, and there's so much to say. I don't know if this happens to anyone else here. It has something to do with 'https' security feature, SSL certificate, and "too many redirections."

I had that problem as well, I think everyone might have. I tried on my phone and laptop.

ETA:
I enjoy Lucas Broussard's skating too! He had a very good JGP season last year, but then he ran into problems at junior Worlds. However, I don't think the judges scored everyone fairly at that event.

The Swiss skater, Naoki Rossi, for example, is talented and interesting, but his jump technique is very messy. He needs to clean up his technique and polish things up a bit before receiving such high scores.

Lucas won Philadelphia International, I was there. He is a very good skater.