I cant believe so many people are so critical of this girl. I am more irritated with how Carolina Kostner does such messy programs and remains on the podium. This girl is doing the best she can and is improving (according to what other people write) What is the big deal? It isnt as if she is threatening Joannie Rochette.
Mira Leung next season: Thoughts & Opinions?
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I like Mira and I like the fact that she is willing to work hard.
However right now her hard work is misdirected. The problem is that Mira is not willing to admit the real technical flaws she has.
Many times Mira has complained at competitions that her jumps did not deserved to be downgraded. How can she work on fixing the flaws in her jumps if she is not willing to admit that there are flaws in the first place.
Right now she thinks that good choreography is all she needs to bump the component scores up. However one can't bring out the good choreography unless one has a strong technical base. And right now Mira has several holes in that technical base.
However right now her hard work is misdirected. The problem is that Mira is not willing to admit the real technical flaws she has.
Many times Mira has complained at competitions that her jumps did not deserved to be downgraded. How can she work on fixing the flaws in her jumps if she is not willing to admit that there are flaws in the first place.
Right now she thinks that good choreography is all she needs to bump the component scores up. However one can't bring out the good choreography unless one has a strong technical base. And right now Mira has several holes in that technical base.
Brian did that choreography for Pink Panther? Are you sure about that? I thought Joanne McCleod did it and she chose the music.
The issue is not whether she works hard or not. In fact, she worked too hard that she was skating on sessions she should not have been on. I think her "working hard" is mistaken for inefficient, poor training. If anything, I would think she needs to work smarter, not harder.
But in defense of her, I don't agree with the poster who made the comment about her lunging jumps. Yes, she used to be like that, but she has made big improvements in her jump technique and that's nice to see.
Well Said! You make an excellent point.
I don't think Mira deserves all of this. She is doing the best she can and she is currently the 2nd best senor lady in Canada.........................
Unfortunately, I think it's her attitude thinking she is better than she is which may be partly to blame for the attention. Her skates speak louder than her words.
That doesn't say much for the state of Ladies' skating in Canada.
I agree with the poster who said Mira works hard, but on the wrong things, and with the poster who said Mira doesn't seem to accept that her skating is deficient in several areas (not fully rotating jumps, bizarre entrance into and out of jumps).
Mira has been dinged for underrotating jumps in every single competition over the past two years, the exception being 2007 and 2008 Canadian Nationals---and that is how she is still #2 in Canada. If the Canadian tech team hit Mira for URs, perhaps some other skater would be #2.
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You couldn't have said it better. It is pathetic. There are not many ladies to rag on to begin with.
Sorry. Check the videos in the first post. Those were at this year's worlds. The dropped back/lunging movement into the jumps is still there. There were few jumps in the LP that had a straighter, better-postured entry; one was doubled, another was a fall. She hasn't improved that much.
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All skaters improve over time. But, I am merely stating my opinion--to me it could have been choreographed better. It could have been Tarasova and Nichol collaborating--if the SP looked that way, I would still say it needed to be choreographed better.
True it would be nice to have a lot of ladies that could be complimented instead of ragged on.
Why there is such a dearth of internationally competitive (medal contenders) in Canada is a mystery. There have been entire threads devoted to the root cause of this situation but it's still a mystery...............
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Btw, I heard the rumblings that Mira may be switching coaches. Any updates?
If she went to Brian Orser for the Pink Panther program, I would say that was a step in the right direction. This tells you that she does seek help outside of her inner circle of mum and coach. She has always collaborated with her coach Joanne McLeod to create new programs, which have been a hit or miss (1:9 ratio) in my humble opinion.
If she went to Brian Orser for the Pink Panther program, I would say that was a step in the right direction. This tells you that she does seek help outside of her inner circle of mum and coach. She has always collaborated with her coach Joanne McLeod to create new programs, which have been a hit or miss (1:9 ratio) in my humble opinion.
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That is the eternal mystery--Canada has some of the best facilities, and coaches--many women have gone to Canada from other countries and taken advantage of these facilities and went on to win medals at worlds and Olympics (Kim, Yamaguchi, etc). It's a shame the women these facilities were built for aren't having the same success yet (but they will--hopefully soon).
There have been rumors that Mira has once again split with Joanne McLeod. Posters on other boards have reported Mira practicing with no McLeod in sight on many occasions.
What other coach would take Mira on, interfering mother and all? I don't see Orser stepping in. Orser's main focus is Yu-Na Kim, who has won two GPFs and two World medals in her first two seasons at the Senior level. Mira finished 24th and 14th her last two tries at Worlds, and has never won a medal in the GP, not even in the JGP or Junior Worlds.
Mira has too many technical faults, along with a stubborn inability to acknowledge that her basic skating needs a drastic overhaul. A skater has to see the pluses and minuses in her skating with some degree of objectivity for there to be real change and improment.
What other coach would take Mira on, interfering mother and all? I don't see Orser stepping in. Orser's main focus is Yu-Na Kim, who has won two GPFs and two World medals in her first two seasons at the Senior level. Mira finished 24th and 14th her last two tries at Worlds, and has never won a medal in the GP, not even in the JGP or Junior Worlds.
Mira has too many technical faults, along with a stubborn inability to acknowledge that her basic skating needs a drastic overhaul. A skater has to see the pluses and minuses in her skating with some degree of objectivity for there to be real change and improment.
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This doesn't really make sense to me. The BC Centre for Excellence is basically owned/managed by Joanne McLeod, right? She leaves Joanne and still practices at her club?
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Well...what I'm grousing about is this.
Why are there no threads on figure skating boards discussing whether Cynthia Phaneuf or Leslie Hawker has what it takes to crack the top fifteen at Worlds? Why are there no threads opining about what Joannie Rochette has to do to take the final step onto the podium? Why are there no threads railing away that Myriane Samson should fix her Lutz, or Erin Scherrer needs to develop more musicality? Why doesn't anyone post about how much they hate Amelie Lacost's mom?
Well, maybe Mrs. Lacost is more likeable than Mrs. Leung (I have never met either of them, so i don't have an opinion.) Nevertheless, every two months like clockwork, we can expect the same Mira Leung thread to pop up, with the same posts and the same insults, veiled or otherwise, that appeared the last time.
I think it's because of the negative image that she portrays of herself both on-ice and off-ice as opposed to her actual skating as evidenced by her negative interaction with the media and the immediate people who see her within the skating circle.
Let's face it: between Joannie Rochette and Mira Leung, Joannie wins hands down when it comes to not just skating technique, but also someone who has the qualities of an excellent role model and spokesperson. Mira does not make a good role model. I certainly hope skaters are not looking at her on how to shape their skating practice, how to piss of your coach, how to talk to the media (eg. calling yourself a rhinosiros, or predicting how your going to surprise the world), how to yell and ignore other skaters, how to hog the music machine, how to publicly disrespect the coach you've brought to competition, how to isolate yourself from other skaters making yourself look aloof and condescending, how to blame other people for your own mistakes, how to dress for competition...and the list goes on. I don't think there is another Canadian lady skater who has made such a bad image for herself in the history of figure skating. I'm sorry, but you can't get the support of the Canadian skating fan with behaviour like that.
Remind me, has Joannie or anyone else ever called themself a rhinoserous?
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Why exactly would Orser's coaching of Kim affect whether he took Mira on or not. Coaches need more than one skater to make money and a career out of coaching. If Mira is not a threat to Kim in terms of being a podium or top ten challenger then surely that is even more reason to say that him coaching her would not affect the coaching of Kim at all.
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Nah, Ms Lacost is positivley ghastley, she once kicked a puppy.
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