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This is definitely one of the craziest thing I've seen in sport. From her came likely the best peak we'll ever have and this is how it ends.
Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups
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But it wasn’t the best peak, the report clearly states she acknowledges she had a banned substance in her system.
That right there says it all.
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Yea Lebron is also jacked up on enough roids to kill a horse that doesnt mean his raw skill isnt objectively at the highest level. I cant with you puritans. Almost every 21st century olympic champion is juicing.
You're acting like I said she doesnt deserve a ban, she does. Rules are rules. Her peak skill was the best and probably wont be matched ever. And its just a crazy ending to her legacy.
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In which case, I agree. Prior to the team event, RusFed acted consionably. It's only after the test was announced, that their behavior became atrocious and anti their own athletes, which continues to this day.
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She still holds the world record, that was before any proof of any thing. You dont even have a point to begin with anyways.
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Do the conditions of the ban allow her to train? I thought that athletes accused of doping violations were not allowed to be professionally involved with the sport during the duration of the ban.
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I'll hold my coffee until I hear the ISU's statement tomorrow that will list all the implications of the CAS decisions.
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In her backyard yes. Not in any National team facilities... At least, that's usually the case. She cannot be in touch with other athletes.
yup, that's the case. The difference here is that she didn't get a provisional suspension... Normally, she wouldn't have been able to keep competing internally like she did the last couple years.
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Nope, it clearly says violation starts dec 25, she broke the record in november. It stays.
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Unfortunately, the disgraceful behavior of RusFed cannot be rectified. That's why I would be in favor of Russian team event medal stripped.
I am, however, delighted to hear that Sof'ya Murav'eva and Ksenia Sinitsina won bronze in RusNats of 2023 and 2024. That's wonderful news.
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There are guidelines that every athlete and every federation have to follow. Rules are in place regarding doping testing and enforcement.
It is also well known that particular past cases of doping violations have resulted in Russian athletes being banned to participate in some competitions, and the Russian team as a whole having to participate in a way that only allowed them to be honored without their country's anthem being played. There is a highly regarded investigative documentary which uncovers the truth behind past instances of proven doping in Russian sports. Obviously, athletes in various sports from many countries, have previously been assessed doping violations. But there is no doubt that multiple instances of doping-related investigations have led to what many observers in figure skating have termed 'slaps on the wrist' instead of harsher penalties for Russia. In that respect, it is no wonder that some observers sense a general attitude by some Russian officials, of nonchalance, excuse-making, denial, and the possibility of 'getting away with it.'
Clearly, we have to trust the systems that are in place, and rules must be abided by. It is a fact that past instances of doping violations by Russian athletes in figure skating, have occurred. It has been referenced within the sport. Whenever athletes from any country are found to be in violation, or if they fail to be available for a test, or even when a rare false test result occurs (as it did for Jessica Calalang) and a lengthy appeal is launched, such athletes are still banned from competition and are adversely impacted.
It is also well known that particular past cases of doping violations have resulted in Russian athletes being banned to participate in some competitions, and the Russian team as a whole having to participate in a way that only allowed them to be honored without their country's anthem being played. There is a highly regarded investigative documentary which uncovers the truth behind past instances of proven doping in Russian sports. Obviously, athletes in various sports from many countries, have previously been assessed doping violations. But there is no doubt that multiple instances of doping-related investigations have led to what many observers in figure skating have termed 'slaps on the wrist' instead of harsher penalties for Russia. In that respect, it is no wonder that some observers sense a general attitude by some Russian officials, of nonchalance, excuse-making, denial, and the possibility of 'getting away with it.'
Clearly, we have to trust the systems that are in place, and rules must be abided by. It is a fact that past instances of doping violations by Russian athletes in figure skating, have occurred. It has been referenced within the sport. Whenever athletes from any country are found to be in violation, or if they fail to be available for a test, or even when a rare false test result occurs (as it did for Jessica Calalang) and a lengthy appeal is launched, such athletes are still banned from competition and are adversely impacted.
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Can you list some of those examples for Olympic sports? I am aware only of track and field, where if one competitor in a relay event tests positive, the entire team result is eliminated and none of the athletes keep their medals. For example:
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'My son can't take medal to school now' - Kilty after Team GB 4x100m team stripped of Olympic silver
British athlete Richard Kilty says he is heartbroken after finding out his Olympic silver medal will be taken away because of CJ Ujah's failed doping test.
www.eurosport.com
I admit I am far from following every Olympic sport.
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@TontoK, a fair-minded Russian journalist, Maya Bagriantseva, who lives in the U.S., but still has Russian affections and affiliations, has stated that Russian officials were aware of issues with doping test results for Valieva. This is why even Bagriantseva questions Rusfed's decision to include Valieva in the team event.
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I find this a just decision. Doping cannot be tolerated, minor or not. The whole affair at the Olympics was awful and my enjoyment of the sport has never been lower than during that time, even though the Olympics were wonderful. I do hope the adults around her will face justice as well.
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There are doping guidelines in place which everyone must follow. We have to trust the systems that are in place, no matter how faulty or slow when controversies and difficulties arise.
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I think we shouldn't go on this statement. RusFed might have known that the sample was delayed, and that could have been a reason why they dragged their feet with selections to the last moment, but there could have been other circumstances we don’t know about. For example, samples from Trusova or Scherabkova might not have been in either, but tested clean when the analytical suit was completed--too late to make a substitute. We know from the team members' testimony during the Olympics that they waited late into the night not knowing who skates, including the women. That is more likely imo, versus RusFed decided they can bury the positive test in some kind of collective delusion event.
At any rate, there is no shortage of things RusFed did wrong since, so I would focus on that. Because their treatment of the clean athlets after the event was horrid, making them compete with Valieva and close ranks. This should have never had happened and those guilty of promoting jaded view of sport and glorifying cheating should be removed from sport.
This is what should be persecuted, this is what should be condemned and deemed unacceptable. In addition to treating athlets as serfs, not allowing them to structure their lives and careers as a free person should be able to.
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I guess I'm just not naïve enough to believe that a 15 year old was doping solo. Especially when you acknowledge the fact that she also had 3 other heart medications in her system.
It doesn't really matter.
She is now and forever will be an athlete who was found guilty of cheating by taking a banned substance.
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I also recall that a Chinese gymnastics team lost medals, even though not all of them had falsified their ages.Can you list some of those examples for Olympic sports? I am aware only of track and field, where if one competitor in a relay event tests positive, the entire team result is eliminated and none of the athletes keep their medals. For example:
'My son can't take medal to school now' - Kilty after Team GB 4x100m team stripped of Olympic silver
British athlete Richard Kilty says he is heartbroken after finding out his Olympic silver medal will be taken away because of CJ Ujah's failed doping test.
I admit I am far from following every Olympic sport.
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