2024 CS Denis Ten Memorial Challenge: Info and pre-game chat

[FlossieH]

in a field like this i don't see him out of the top 5 realistically speaking

I don't think the mens field is particularly strong for this event. I'm struggling to identify five skaters who would be likely to finish above him?

 

[Ivana]

Removed from the start list:

Oleg Melnikov
Linnea Ceder
Holly Harris and Jason Chan
Anastasia Polibina and Pavel Golovishnikov

 

[elektra blue]

I don't think the mens field is particularly strong for this event. I'm struggling to identify five skaters who would be likely to finish above him?

well the home multiquadster boy Shaidorov for sure (i'd put him in first) and probably Egadze too, many others are fine cacti but so he's Daniel and we don't know what shape he's in

 

[FlossieH]

well the home multiquadster boy Shaidorov for sure (i'd put him in first) and probably Egadze too, many others are fine cacti but so he's Daniel and we don't know what shape he's inmarty

Yes, Shaidorov is my pick for the win. Egadze should be able to podium unless he has a bad skate. Martynov and Litvintsev have the potential to do well but are inconsistent. That's still only four, and I'm not sure I'm confident that they could all have better skates than Daniel Grassl. I'll probably put Grassl in third on my predictions. I'd be really surprised if he wasn't in the top 5 in that field. It's probably a good choice of competition for his return. Even if he doesn't have his quads back in competition shape, he could probably get the CTES for Euros and Worlds.

 

[elektra blue]

Yes, Shaidorov is my pick for the win. Egadze should be able to podium unless he has a bad skate. Martynov and Litvintsev have the potential to do well but are inconsistent. That's still only four, and I'm not sure I'm confident that they could all have better skates than Daniel Grassl. I'll probably put Grassl in third on my predictions. I'd be really surprised if he wasn't in the top 5 in that field. It's probably a good choice of competition for his return. Even if he doesn't have his quads back in competition shape, he could probably get the CTES for Euros and Worlds.

they usually give out nice scores here, unlike at some GPs (Daniel has two). i cross my fingers, of course i want him to do well but i also don't want him to feel too much pressure

 

[dorispulaski]

Kazakh capital to hold Denis Ten Memorial Challenge 2024

The 2024 Denis Ten Memorial Challenge is scheduled to take place at the Barys Arena sports complex in the Kazakh capital of Astana between October 3–6, Kazinform News Agency reports citing the capital's akimat.

en.inform.kz

A little more info about times.

The 2024 Denis Ten Memorial Challenge is scheduled to take place at the Barys Arena sports complex in the Kazakh capital of Astana between October 3–6, Kazinform News Agency reports citing the capital's akimat.
The tournament will bring together around 120 athletes from 31 countries to compete in adult and junior categories that include events of single and ice dance.

Kazakh figure skater Dias Jirenbayev will represent the country at the tournament.
Daniel Grassl (Italy), Anastasiia Gubanova (Georgia), Starr Andrews (USA), Aleksa Rakic (Canada), Ye Quan and Hannah Lim (South Korea) will compete at the Denis Ten Memorial Challenge as well.

And there will be a gala.

The tournament is set to run from 11:00 am till 08:00 pm on October 3–4.

An awards ceremony and gala concert will be held at 07:30 pm on October 5. The entrance is free for the guests.

 

[dorispulaski]

Usually the link for the live stream is printed on the detailed results and protocols page, when we finally get to see it.

 

[labgoat]

Yes, Shaidorov is my pick for the win. Egadze should be able to podium unless he has a bad skate. Martynov and Litvintsev have the potential to do well but are inconsistent. That's still only four, and I'm not sure I'm confident that they could all have better skates than Daniel Grassl. I'll probably put Grassl in third on my predictions. I'd be really surprised if he wasn't in the top 5 in that field. It's probably a good choice of competition for his return. Even if he doesn't have his quads back in competition shape, he could probably get the CTES for Euros and Worlds.

I agree with your take on this event. Shaidorov always impresses me and he is steady, Egadze always lives up to his name and often seems to over achieve his best scores. Litvinsev runs hot and cold. Right now he seems to have had a slower start so far, why I don't know. His more serious style does not bring out his natural "tiger" spunk and I hope he can have a more positive outing this week. Daniel Grassl - so talented, such a high possible ceiling, but total unknown as far as where he is in his training. I think I will not make up my mind on this race until the last minute. For number 5 I cannot decide without watching more video between Daniel Martynov & Semen Daniliants. Goku Endo has posted a big score earlier this season domestically Pasadena Open 230.26 on 9/15/2024 and may be a wild card.

 

[labgoat]

For ladies, don't count out Starr Andrews, again domestically she posted the following

Pasadena Open

9/15/2024

68.88

128.09

196.77

 

[viennaskater]

I don't understand why the detailed schedule is not yet available. Anyone seen it?

 

[labgoat]

Diana Davis & Gleb Smolkin GEO (from ISU bio)
RD : Lady Marmalade by Sheila, Music Is My Way of Life, Lady Marmalade by Girl's Generation
FD: Kashmir by Bond, Kashmir by Led Zeppelin, The Rain Song by Beth Hart, Black Dog by Led Zeppelin

Milla Ruud Reitan & Nikolaj Majorov SWE (from ISU bio)
RD: The Ballroom Blitz by Sweet, Nicky Chin & Mike Chapman
Proud Mary by Tina Turner, John Fogerty & Ike Turner
FD: Les Parapluies de Cherburg by Michel Legrand, Nana Mouskouri, Les Parapluies de Cherburg by Michel Legrand, Mario Pelchat, Les Parapluies de Cherburg by Michel Legrand

New team
Daniela IVANITSKIY / Matthew SPERRY FIN (From ISU bio)
RD: Dancing in the Streets by Boney M, Daddy Cool by Boney M, Daddy Cool (Remix 2001) by Boney M
FD: Volver by Maxim Rodriguez

Hannah LIM / Ye QUAN KOR (From ISU bio)
RD: Reach Out I’ll Be There by Gloria Gaynor, I Will Survive (lalala - les Bleus - Radio Edit) performed by Hermes House Band
FD: Cruella (soundtrack), Call me Cruella by Florence + The Machine

Katerina MRAZKOVA / Daniel MRAZEK CZE (ISU bio)
RD: Love Me Do by The Beatles, Help! by The Beatles, Yellow Submarine by The Beatles
She Loves You by The Beatles
FD: Pulling a Thread by Kerry Muzzey, Andrew Skeet, The Secret History by Kerry Muzzey, Andrew Skeet, An Invicible Summer by Kerry Muzzey, Andrew Skeet, The Architect by Kerry Muzzey, Andrew Skeet, Portrait of a Courtesan by Kerry Muzzey, Andrew Skeet

Daniel GRASSL ITA (From ISU bio)
SP: Nocturne No 20 in C-Sharp Minor by Frederic Chopin
FS: Electricity (from Billy Elliot: The Musical), Gnossiennes . No. 1, Lent by Erik Satie
Arabesque No.1 by Claude Debussy, Billy Elliot Born to Boogie by Elton John, A Swan Song (For Nina) (from "Black Swan" soundtrack) by Clint Mansell

Goku ENDO USA (From ISU bio)
SP: Lose Control by Teddy Swims
FS: Not In That Way by Sam Smith
Leaving My Love Behind by Lewis Capaldi

 

[AlexRus]

ISU CS Denis Ten Memorial Challenge 2024
Astana / KAZ
03.10.2024-06.10.2024

In order of Personal Best, * — unofficial best if no official.
In (brackets) season best of this season if any.

Men
No. Name Nation Score
1 Daniel GRASSL ITA 278.07
2 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ 264.46
3 Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE 251.76 (183.80)
4 Nika EGADZE GEO 243.35 (232.01)
5 Daniel MARTYNOV USA 220.09 (207.01)
6 Semen DANILIANTS ARM 213.99
7 Aleksa RAKIC CAN 211.74
8 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN 204.02
9 Rakhat BRALIN KAZ 199.38
10 Goku ENDO USA 197.59
11 Dias JIRENBAYEV KAZ 195.88 (183.97)
12 Kyrylo MARSAK UKR 191.65
13 Ze Zeng FANG MAS 158.34 (138.24)
WD Oleg MELNIKOV KAZ 174.22

Women
No. Name Nation Score
1 Anastasiia GUBANOVA GEO 206.52 (195.74)
2 Sofia SAMODELKINA KAZ 205.67 (174.58)
3 Starr ANDREWS USA 13 191.26 (164.89)
4 Kaiya RUITER CAN 179.92
5 Lara Naki GUTMANN ITA 179.59 (150.57)
6 Alexandra FEIGIN BUL 177.37
7 Mariia SENIUK ISR 175.75
8 Eliska BREZINOVA CZE 175.41 (126.15)
9 Yi ZHU CHN 171.25
10 Anastasia GOZHVA UKR 163.77 (120.47)
11 Anastasia GRACHEVA MDA 157.46
12 Uliana SHIRYAEVA CAN 147.27
13 Sofiya FARAFONOVA KAZ 139.74
14 Antonina DUBININA SRB 134.58
15 Viktoriia IUSHCHENKOVA ISR 126.81
16 Amina ALEXEYEVA KAZ 106.42
17 Kristina TIMOSHENKO KAZ 103.34*
18 Russalina SHAKROVA KAZ 93.44
19 Karina ISSAKOVA KAZ 91.09
WD Sarina JOOS ITA 180.83 (157.44)
WD Linnea CEDER FIN 166.16
WD Anna LEVKOVETS KAZ 146.57

Ice Dance
No. Name Nation Score
1 Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKIN GEO 199.90
2 Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLER CZE 196.39 (182.15)
3 Katerina MRAZKOVA / Daniel MRAZEK CZE 188.28
4 Oona BROWN / Gage BROWN USA 187.62
5 Hannah LIM / Ye QUAN KOR 187.10
6 Jennifer JANSE VAN RENSBURG / Benjamin STEFFAN GER 181.50
7 Isabella FLORES / Ivan DESYATOV USA 180.62
8 Marie DUPAYAGE / Thomas NABAIS FRA 179.05
9 Alicia FABBRI / Paul AYER CAN 173.34
10 Phebe BEKKER / James HERNANDEZ GBR 169.74
11 Victoria MANNI / Carlo ROETHLISBERGER ITA 168.23
12 Milla Ruud REITAN / Nikolaj MAJOROV SWE 160.76
13 Lily HENSEN / Nathan LICKERS CAN 157.48
14 Lou TERREAUX / Noe PERRON FRA 155.93 (155.93)
15 Zoe LARSON / Andrii KAPRAN UKR 154.36
16 Angelina KUDRYAVTSEVA / Ilia KARANKEVICH CYP 153.42 (153.42)
17 Lucy HANCOCK / Ilias FOURATI HUN 148.75
18 Kristina DOBROSERDOVA / Alessandro PELLEGRINI ARM 139.73*
19 Natalia PALLU-NEVES / Jayin PANESAR BRA 138.74
20 Daniela IVANITSKIY / Matthew SPERRY FIN 118.17
- Maxine WEATHERBY / Oleksandr KOLOSOVSKYI AZE -
WD Holly HARRIS / Jason CHAN AUS 176.34
WD Anastasia POLIBINA / Pavel GOLOVISHNIKOV POL 155.99

 

[Skating91]

Interesting that Grassl is back and very few questions. I can think of a female they hounded for two years (and still gets e-bullied), but maybe it's different for men they don't have to explain themselves. I don't think Grassl should be e-bullied I am sure there is a reasonable explanation, but it's all very secretive and everyone is afraid to question anything. It does show that the authorities can keep confidential information secret when it suits them.

I think Samodelkina can win this, it will be close because the judges won't completely destroy Gubanova as always given the composition of her competitors. They will probably give her the biggest scores of the year, and Samo the biggest scores of the year. Samodelkina's skate before the hockey match looked good she did her short program and completed the combo. I think she looks physically in better condition since Ankara and this will only improve over the next 16 months until the Olympics. She's going to make a legitimate push for an Olympic medal, if not gold if ultra-c returns.

I'm so impressed by the consistency of Samodelkina's jumps coming off such a break because in the 2022-23 in Russia she was struggling on 3-3 combos (and everything). This environment and coaching culture is working well for her. If she gets to world's this year I think she'll be top 6.

 

[dorispulaski]

I don't understand why the detailed schedule is not yet available. Anyone seen it?

Again. What schedule we get at Denis Ten CS is usually on the Results page. Which does not come out till after the draw.

 

[labgoat]

Daniel GRASSL ITA (From ISU bio)
SP: Nocturne No 20 in C-Sharp Minor by Frederic Chopin
FS: Electricity (from Billy Elliot: The Musical), Gnossiennes . No. 1, Lent by Erik Satie
Arabesque No.1 by Claude Debussy, Billy Elliot Born to Boogie by Elton John, A Swan Song (For Nina) (from "Black Swan" soundtrack) by Clint Mansell

These choices really intrigue me. A lot of thought has been put into interesting programs. I am taking a big chance a putting Daniel at the top of my picks. What else has he had too do but train right now? He should be healthy and ready, if a bit nervous. The interesting programs will help with this I think. Of course this could go badly for me and he finishes behind Shaidorov - I would still get points.

 

[labgoat]

Interesting that Grassl is back and very few questions. I can think of a female they hounded for two years (and still gets e-bullied), but maybe it's different for men they don't have to explain themselves. I don't think Grassl should be e-bullied I am sure there is a reasonable explanation, but it's all very secretive and everyone is afraid to question anything. It does show that the authorities can keep confidential information secret when it suits them.

I think Samodelkina can win this, it will be close because the judges won't completely destroy Gubanova as always given the composition of her competitors. They will probably give her the biggest scores of the year, and Samo the biggest scores of the year. Samodelkina's skate before the hockey match looked good she did her short program and completed the combo. I think she looks physically in better condition since Ankara and this will only improve over the next 16 months until the Olympics. She's going to make a legitimate push for an Olympic medal, if not gold if ultra-c returns.

I'm so impressed by the consistency of Samodelkina's jumps coming off such a break because in the 2022-23 in Russia she was struggling on 3-3 combos (and everything). This environment and coaching culture is working well for her. If she gets to world's this year I think she'll be top 6.

I agree with you about Samoldelkina. Her jumps are big and fully rotated. She also has a full catalog which puts her and Gubanova in a group by themselves. Gubanova will have to work for this one.

 

[viennaskater]

WHERE IS THE SCHEDULE?

 

[elektra blue]

Daniel GRASSL ITA (From ISU bio)
SP: Nocturne No 20 in C-Sharp Minor by Frederic Chopin
FS: Electricity (from Billy Elliot: The Musical), Gnossiennes . No. 1, Lent by Erik Satie
Arabesque No.1 by Claude Debussy, Billy Elliot Born to Boogie by Elton John, A Swan Song (For Nina) (from "Black Swan" soundtrack) by Clint Mansell

Danill G.? is that you?

 

[labgoat]

Danill G.? is that you?

actually listed as

Choreographer:

Benoit Richaud (SP), Edoardo De Bernardis (FS)

But I understand the confusion.
They've cooked up a story for sure and I can't wait to see this goulash

 

[dorispulaski]

There is a schedule at the end of the Announcement

SCHEDULE

Tuesday,
October 1, 2024
All day Arrival of teams

Wednesday,
October 2, 2024
All day Official practice
10:00 Team Leaders Meeting
TBA Individual Technical Panel Meetings per Discipline
16:30 Referees and Technical Controllers Meeting
17:30 Judges Draw and Meeting

Thursday,
October 3, 2024
10:30 WOMEN – Short Program
MEN – Short Program


Friday,
October 4, 2024
10:30 ICE DANCE – Short Dance
WOMEN – Free Skating
Victory Ceremony WOMEN

Saturday,
October 5, 2024
07:00 WOMEN – Technical Panel Review
07:30 WOMEN – Round Table Discussion for Judges
10:00 MEN – Free Skating
ICE DANCE – Free Dance
16:00 MEN - Technical Panel Review
19:00 EXHIBITION
19:30 ICE DANCE - Technical Panel Review
Victory Ceremonies MEN and ICE DANCE
19:00 MEN – Round Table Discussion for Judges
20:30 ICE DANCE – Round Table Discussion for Judges