Reposting my own post to say that i just watched the original “Smooth” video … and this has Madi/Evan written all over it! If anyone has input with them, please pass my suggestion along. They can thank me later.
RD requirements for 2025-26
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Reposting my own post to say that i just watched the original “Smooth” video … and this has Madi/Evan written all over it! If anyone has input with them, please pass my suggestion along. They can thank me later.
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Under notes for the RD, music created with AI in the style of the 90s is permitted
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Professional part of my brain is withering thinking how AI does things and that what we may get may be in fact copyright infringing and causing more problems than the conventional infringement we are all used to and know how to handle, skating part of my brain screams in terror thinking about all the AI made bad covers that will make us miss all the bad covers we heard this season. Doesn't ISU have legal department or do they plan to make the skaters deal with possible sewage malfunction on their own?
Under notes for the RD, music created with AI in the style of the 90s is permitted
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Sorry, but when I hear that music I see Reed/Ambrulevicius or Zingas/Kolesnik.
Also good choices.
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Sounds music elitist to me. You can like classical music and pop music. It's not impossible. And the 90s music that people might consider art didn't appeal to me, or at least I don't listen to it regularly. Boy bands and girl groups aren't garbage. There's also nothing wrong with catchy, fun music.
I found three different lawsuits that involving the music industry suing AI startups over copyright. Two are in the USA, one is in Germany. It doesn't make sense to allow it while there are legal issues in different countries involving it. Especially when they're getting more stringent on music clearance.
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I'm quite active in copyright and AI practice and indirectly, through various associations of legal and new media professionals, involved in legislative process pretaining EU AI Act. ISU finally made my brain rot...
Not to mention:
Why not allow human made 90s inspired music - and how would they even successfully differentiate AI and non AI music (if non AI music was made to sound AI or vice versa)...
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Michael Jackson made pop music. Bing Crosby did pop music. Elton John did pop music. It is prefectly possible to like classical music nad pop or rock and pop. There is nothing wrong or elitist in disliking particular artists or style.
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I would like to jump off and add a thought, knowing nothing about 90s music, but of the musical debates during my era: there was also an undercurrent of devaluing music based on urban dance forms (the same people would tell me they loved some blues musician no one in the US ever heard of, so they were cool. Not so much).
I am not tied to music of my era, believe it or not.
But if I hear music that I don't know, and that will include much of the 90s, I want a discernible melody and I want a catchy rhythm. I didn't like wailing auteurs with either folksy or hard rock backing in my time and I won't like them now. Now, sometimes a skater can overcome that ...L'Enfer is a horrid song with horrid lyrics, but Andew T. has made it a masterpiece. But it has to be that level of skating to work for me.I hold out hope for the rhythm dances of the 90s, and I hope they stay away from whatever the equivalent is of pretentious indie stuff I was supposed to like in the 60s/70s, but did not.
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We went astray in the 1970s. But the 1960s saw a glorious explosion in popular music. Something for everyone. Rock & roll, jazz, rhythm and blues, instrumentals, show music, country and western, folk, protest, Motown, the British Invasion.
1964 alone gave us I Wanna Hold Your Hand and She Loves You Yeah Yeah Yeah by Johnny and the Moondogs (oh wait, that boy band had changed its name to the Beatles by then
).Hello Dolly (Louis Armstrong)
Pretty Wman (Roy Orbison)
The Times They are a-Changing' (Bob Dylan)
Walk on By (Dionne Warwick)
Baby Love (the Supremes)
House of the Rising Sun (the Animals)
The Girl from Ipanema (Stan Getz)
The Way You Do the Things You Do (the Temptations)
Not to mention the cult classic Louie Louie (the kingsmen). Nobody could make out the mumbled fake-Jamaican-accent words, and rumors spread that the lyrics were secretly dirty. The FBI conducted an official obscenity investigation.
And of course,"There she was just a-walkin' down the street, singin' Doo wah diddy diddy Dum diddy doo" --
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sorry, sounds like you didn't read what i wrote and you're putting words in my mouth just to prove your point . can you point to me exactly where i said all pop music is bad and only classical is good? btw i mostly listen to rock and metal, i apreciate classical music, but i'm not an expert, before you say that to me rock died in the 70s, i also listen to modern rock and i follow several young bands. everyone is entitled to their own tastes, in music or in everything else, but it doesn't make that music (or whatever) high quality. trashy stuff (before you intervene again i'm not saying light pop is trashy) is fun, you may enjoy it without feeling guilty or starting a campaign for its apreciation. back to the boy/girl bands, no they're not garbage (especially in light of some contemporary actual trash. and again you misread what i wrote), but there's little quality in that genre because quality wasn't the point. boy/girls band music is pure consumerism, it's like fast fashion purposedly created by music industry to make a lot of money and then being replaced by some new trend, quantity over quality. and no, there's nothing wrong with catchy, funny music, but discrimination on women (that you brought up) has nothing to do with it.
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All those tunes were great.
But the 60s also brought us the 13th Floor Elevators. 
And indie bands whose names I forget but had heartfelt messages with atonal "melodies" and godawful voices to very loud drums. Which weren't always in time, but I guess that was the point.The 70s were great, but I confess, I listened to one genre of music and it was wonderful. Earth Wind & Fire, the Commodores, Stevie Wonder, the O'Jays, Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes, the Ohio Players. Groups where the lead singer (s) could actually hold a note and cared what they sounded like to the audience. Even the much maligned "disco" cared about that. Skinny guys with scraggly blond hair wailing about I don't know what while my ears bleed. Uh, no.
So I hope that whoever the inheritors of the EW&F et cetera were in the 90s hold sway for the RD, and not the skinny blond guys. Just my personal opinion.
I think what the ISU wants is probably sounds that audiences (and judges) can immediately identify as characterizing the 1990s -- stuff that was popular at the time, at least with some demographics -- and that has a beat you can dance to.
Not what the cool kids were sitting around listening to, but what the cool kids were dancing to.
Whether that counts as "quality" music is a separate question. There is plenty of high-quality music in non-dance genres that just would not work for this assignment.
Not what the cool kids were sitting around listening to, but what the cool kids were dancing to.
Whether that counts as "quality" music is a separate question. There is plenty of high-quality music in non-dance genres that just would not work for this assignment.
Looking at the technical requirements:
I wouldn't think of grunge rock as a danceable genre, but it's one of their examples. I'm sure there will be plenty of pop, but they want to see some grunge too. They want someone to take on Smells Like Teen Spirit.
At least that does have a beat.
And some dancing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg&t=1m59s
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^OK, but that's just ugly noise, right? Makes me glad I skipped the '90s.
But at least the lyrics have poetic merit:
Hello, hello, hello, how low
Hello, hello, hello, how low
Hello, hello, hello, how low
Hello, hello, hello
A mulatto, an albino
A mosquito, my libido
Yeah
Hey
Yay
Give me Little Richard any time:
Wop bop a loo bop a lop bom bom
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
A wop bop a loo bop a lop bom bam!
But at least the lyrics have poetic merit:
Hello, hello, hello, how low
Hello, hello, hello, how low
Hello, hello, hello, how low
Hello, hello, hello
A mulatto, an albino
A mosquito, my libido
Yeah
Hey
Yay
Give me Little Richard any time:
Wop bop a loo bop a lop bom bom
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
Tutti frutti, oh rootie
A wop bop a loo bop a lop bom bam!
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And every time I see officialdom somewhere come up with the crappiest of crap ideas and think "no one can top (or bottom) that, surely...." someone does.
Under notes for the RD, music created with AI in the style of the 90s is permitted
Earplugs and mute button abuse coming in....
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