2025-2026 Canadian Figure Skating

[4everchan]

I doubt it, they haven't given Junior Bs to skaters who had a JGP assignment last season (Cranberry Cup doesn't count for an assignment.) He's moving up to Senior at Skate Ontario October, I think he's done with Juniors unless he gets Junior Worlds.

Well, they are also playing the game differently this season. They haven't removed assignments in the past either. I wouldn't be surprised if they told him, we are taking this spot away but will give you another competition elsewhere, in a few more weeks, so you can bounce back.

The problem with 2 JGPS is that, unless you do the first and last one, they are very closely timed from one another. I don't think it's very smart to send a skater who had a difficult long program right away to another event. Yes, he may have redeemed himself as he is very capable of doing so... but he may have crumbled under the internal pressure of wanting so much to do better. Two bad performances in a row is enough to really mine someone's confidence and then, it may be harder to recover.

So yeah, it may look cruel to see a spot taken away but there is the other side of things too. It may be a way to protect a talented skater of getting in a much deeper funk.

I don't skate. But as a performer and with my own students, performance opportunities are carefully planned with musicians who have performance anxiety. Sometimes, I feel that a kid who played badly just needs to get back on stage right away to do better. Sometimes, I make sure that they do not get in a high pressure environment until I feel that they are ready.

It may be the same with skating and how coaches and Skate Canada's high performance/next gen team see things.. I don't know.

 

[4everchan]

On a different note : Congrats to Victoria. She held her own and finished in 8th place.
Her only mistake across two programs, a fall on a triple salchow in the LP. With a clean skate, she would have been pretty close to, if not top 5.

I guess this also closes the discussion about the next JGP assignments for our junior women.

 

[Ziotic]

With the results so far it looks like Q/L would likely need to finish 4th to secure a spot at the JGPF.

 

[4everchan]

With the results so far it looks like Q/L would likely need to finish 4th to secure a spot at the JGPF.

Yes. Top 4 is safe. They have the score to do that if the Chinese do not improve that much between their two events. Of course, there are a few skaters we cannot predict (Ukrainians, both French team could skate much better in their second event) but if logic is respected, Q/L would qualify.

 

[Cutting the ice]

Well, they are also playing the game differently this season. They haven't removed assignments in the past either. I wouldn't be surprised if they told him, we are taking this spot away but will give you another competition elsewhere, in a few more weeks, so you can bounce back.

I am not going to assume SC has changed its game plan - yet. It may be that David B has an injury (that was a bad fall on the quad toe attempt) and so withdrew so he could heal properly (if that is the case - I hope the injury is minor). But very glad for Edward Vasii to get an opportunity to show his improvement from Cranberry Cup.

And yes, agree that at this level of skating, SC can't be nice about assignments. The onus is on the skaters to demonstrate they deserve it. Even if that means our favourites might get overlooked (although I can't complain with John and Matthew getting assignments)

 

[4everchan]

I am not going to assume SC has changed its game plan - yet. It may be that David B has an injury (that was a bad fall on the quad toe attempt) and so withdrew so he could heal properly (if that is the case - I hope the injury is minor). But very glad for Edward Vasii to get an opportunity to show his improvement from Cranberry Cup.

And yes, agree that at this level of skating, SC can't be nice about assignments. The onus is on the skaters to demonstrate they deserve it. Even if that means our favourites might get overlooked (although I can't complain with John and Matthew getting assignments)

Thank you for this. It's true that we don't know and it could even be that David is not 100% fit to compete. Illness, injuries do happen, and if that's the case, let's hope he will be back on track very soon.

 

[RatedPG]

Wow!!

Don’t mess with @4everchan and his sons. Skate Canada must have read the chat and then added Edward Vasii in fear .

I’m so happy for Eddy. He deserves it.
But, I do wonder if Anthony does somehow land the 3A and skates cleanly, if the spot will be taken away with an Anthony top 3 finish

 

[Ziotic]

Wow!!

Don’t mess with @4everchan and his sons. Skate Canada must have read the chat and then added Edward Vasii in fear .

I’m so happy for Eddy. He deserves it.
But, I do wonder if Anthony does somehow land the 3A and skates cleanly, if the spot will be taken away with an Anthony top 3 finish

That is so optimistic of you, the chances of him being on the podium with a 3A are slim.

 

[RatedPG]

That is so optimistic of you, the chances of him being on the podium with a 3A are slim.

Yup. I predict him to finish 5th tmrw. But, he is the kind of skater that if he lands the 3A somehow and then the other triples, watch out!!

 

[SnowWhite]

With the results so far it looks like Q/L would likely need to finish 4th to secure a spot at the JGPF.

Decent chance a 5th would be enough as well.

3/5 would beat Moss/Galbavy's 4/4 regardless of total score. Would depend on which teams were above them. For example, if Zheng/Feng, Desrochers/Thrasher and Williams/Lewer are top 3 (a likely outcome imo) then I believe 5th would be good enough regardless of which team was 4th. Also if a team like the Ukrainians are top 3, 5th would probably be fine since they didn't have a 2nd event (or a team with a low placement in their 1st like Telemaque/Coulon or Napolitano/Comi). But there are scenarios where 5th wouldn't do it.

 

[saine]

And yes, agree that at this level of skating, SC can't be nice about assignments. The onus is on the skaters to demonstrate they deserve it. Even if that means our favourites might get overlooked (although I can't complain with John and Matthew getting assignments)

As long as it is consistent. There were skaters who would have lost second assignments last season that kept them by the same standard.

 

[RatedPG]

Decent chance a 5th would be enough as well.

3/5 would beat Moss/Galbavy's 4/4 regardless of total score. Would depend on which teams were above them. For example, if Zheng/Feng, Desrochers/Thrasher and Williams/Lewer are top 3 (a likely outcome imo) then I believe 5th would be good enough regardless of which team was 4th. Also if a team like the Ukrainians are top 3, 5th would probably be fine since they didn't have a 2nd event (or a team with a low placement in their 1st like Telemaque/Coulon or Napolitano/Comi). But there are scenarios where 5th wouldn't do it.

Yay!!! That would be wonderful for us.
I was hoping we would get two into the finals as well as in Dance. Four in total.

If we get more, that is a bonus. Go Canada

 

[4everchan]

Decent chance a 5th would be enough as well.

3/5 would beat Moss/Galbavy's 4/4 regardless of total score. Would depend on which teams were above them. For example, if Zheng/Feng, Desrochers/Thrasher and Williams/Lewer are top 3 (a likely outcome imo) then I believe 5th would be good enough regardless of which team was 4th. Also if a team like the Ukrainians are top 3, 5th would probably be fine since they didn't have a 2nd event (or a team with a low placement in their 1st like Telemaque/Coulon or Napolitano/Comi). But there are scenarios where 5th wouldn't do it.

5th doesn't do it if the 2nd chinese team does 3rd or higher

 

[saine]

Gabrielle Daleman withdrew from the Colorado Springs Invitational, hopefully nothing injury related

Looking ahead for another fun topic of discussion, this is where the SCI TBD candidates should be competing next:

Souvenir Georges-Ethier - Fee Ann Landry, Justine Miclette (likely not a candidate, but could get herself a Challenger, I need some Quebec Senior Women with Challenge byes or switching to Ontario)
Skate Alberta Podium Pathway - Breken Brezden
Nebelhorn - Katherine Medland Spence, Kaiya Ruiter

If Daleman has more competitions scheduled in September in the US, it won't come up until the start orders are posted a day before it starts. The spot should be decided later in the month, I'm thinking after Nebelhorn since Medland Spence didn't compete in the summer due to injury.

 

[4everchan]

Gabrielle Daleman withdrew from the Colorado Springs Invitational, hopefully nothing injury related

Looking ahead for another fun topic of discussion, this is where the SCI TBD candidates should be competing next:

Souvenir Georges-Ethier - Fee Ann Landry, Justine Miclette (likely not a candidate, but could get herself a Challenger, I need some Quebec Senior Women with Challenge byes or switching to Ontario)
Skate Alberta Podium Pathway - Breken Brezden
Nebelhorn - Katherine Medland Spence, Kaiya Ruiter

If Daleman has more competitions scheduled in September in the US, it won't come up until the start orders are posted a day before it starts. The spot should be decided later in the month, I'm thinking after Nebelhorn since Medland Spence didn't compete in the summer due to injury.

Thanks for the summary of who is going where.
I also would like Quebec to get a few more challenge byes... i find that in women, there are not enough spots allocated to quebec who has a very fine and deep pool of skaters worthy to go to Nationals... I'd sacrifice a few senior men spots if needed.

My gut feeling is that Kaiya will get the spot. She's a national champion. She's from the Prairies. People love her and love to support her.

 

[Ziotic]

Yay!!! That would be wonderful for us.
I was hoping we would get two into the finals as well as in Dance. Four in total.

If we get more, that is a bonus. Go Canada

Even with two silvers, it’s possible they may not make the final. It could come down to tiebreaker on scores.

 

[lariko]

There you go, your answer. Paradis at 18 can't place well in a low tech event in JGP. 3 falls, URs, edges. I hope Skate Canada would finally clue in that he has not sufficient jumping ability.

 

[4everchan]

There you go, your answer. Paradis at 18 can't place well in a low tech event in JGP. 3 falls, URs, edges. I hope Skate Canada would finally clue in that he has not sufficient jumping ability.

I didn't watch this... thankfully. The protocols are not fun to read but it's not just Anthony who had a bad skate... The score cards are filled with markings for many of the top guys.

Anthony fell on his opening combo, which doesn't usually happen... and he did go and tried the 3a, which he has often popped. He fell. After two big falls like this, he tried to change his program around doing a 3f-3t instead of what he usually does 3f-eu-3s... etc.
To me, the confirmation that it was nerves or being completely out of it comes with the last element : getting a V for him on a spin means he was really skating poorly in the LP... So it's not just the jumps. Now, this is just me reading the score card. I am not ready to watch the LP based on what I have read but I think it's something else than poor jumping ability. Are Li and Ebihara also poor jumpers ? They did better but their protocols are also filled with marking. Sometimes, it happens in a final flight. Nerves get to everyone...

 

[lariko]

I didn't watch this... thankfully. The protocols are not fun to read but it's not just Anthony who had a bad skate... The score cards are filled with markings for many of the top guys.

Anthony fell on his opening combo, which doesn't usually happen... and he did go and tried the 3a, which he has often popped. He fell. After two big falls like this, he tried to change his program around doing a 3f-3t instead of what he usually does 3f-eu-3s... etc.
To me, the confirmation that it was nerves or being completely out of it comes with the last element : getting a V for him on a spin means he was really skating poorly in the LP... So it's not just the jumps. Now, this is just me reading the score card. I am not ready to watch the LP based on what I have read but I think it's something else than poor jumping ability. Are Li and Ebihara also poor jumpers ? They did better but their protocols are also filled with marking. Sometimes, it happens in a final flight. Nerves get to everyone...

A 14 yo skater from Thailand who trains in LA without ultra c passed Paradis playfully. So Paradis didn't even place the highest of all the skaters without ultra c this time. When did Paradis have a good skate? Even in the SP he struggled to land 3-3 combo on just 3 jumping passes.

 

[4everchan]

Regarding Anderson and Dawson chances for JGPF....

Here are the results so far :

1	Jasmine ROBERTSON / Chase ROHNER	USA	11		15		S	S	S	26	1	304.35	2	185.36	94.44	118.99	35
2	Charlie ANDERSON / Cayden DAWSON	CAN		13		13	S	S	S	26	2	300.56	2	181.87	91.14	118.69	29
3	Lea HIENNE / Louis VARESCON	FRA		11		11	S	S	S	22	3	285.61	2	171.53	86.39	114.08	29
4	Layla VEILLON / Alexander BRANDYS	CAN	15				S	X	S	15	1	161.83	1	97.67	97.67	64.16	15
5	Iryna PIDGAINA / Artem KOVAL	UKR		15				X		15	1	155.14	1	92.06	92.06	63.08	17
6	Hana Maria ABOIAN / Daniil VESELUKHIN	USA				15	S	S	X	15	1	153.96	1	92.96	92.96	61.00	12
7	Michelle DEYCH / Ryan HU	USA	5			9	S	S	S	14	4	268.11	2	167.39	85.97	100.72	27
8	Annelise STAPERT / Maxim KOROTCOV	USA		7	7		S	S	S	14	5	280.25	2	168.42	84.91	111.83	37
9	Dania MOUADEN / Theo BIGOT	FRA	13				S	S	X	13	2	160.13	1	95.78	95.78	64.35	15
10	Ambre PERRIER GIANESINI / Samuel BLANC KLAPERMAN	FRA			13		X	S	S	13	2	147.18	1	94.00	94.00	53.18	20
11	Summer HOMICK / Nicholas BUELOW	CAN			11		X	S	S	11

There are 3 teams with a win and 15 points still waiting for a second JGP

Two of them are skating in Poland and normally, should take 1-2. This is where scores matter because if the Canadians (V/B) win and Ukrainians are second, the Ukrainians would also have 26 points... and scores would be the tie breaker between Anderson and Dawson and them. Considering that Thailand was a low scoring event... It may be that these two teams both pass our Canadians who would now be in 4th place after Poland. In Poland, there is also the Belgian team of Sofiia BEZNOSIKOVA / Max LELEU who may have something to say about JGPF. They are only starting their quest next JGP.

Then Azerbaijan is a relatively easier event. The French, Ambre and Samuel who had a fluke double fall in their first event but managed to get a silver will certainly win. I would think that Summer and Nick would place 2nd.

The French would then have 28 points and also pass Charlie and Cayden who would now be 5th.

Finally, Abu Dhabi should see Hana Maria ABOIAN / Daniil VESELUKHIN on top of the podium. Our Canadians would be 6th.

The question mark will be the following will Dania MOUADEN / Theo BIGOT be 2nd and beat our Canadians on the scoring tie breaker ?

It's quite likely. Or will the Belgian take the second place and eliminate the French ? And if they did, (I doubt it) it may mean that both the Belgian and French team at Abu Dhabi would end with a silver and a bronze... so that would mean JGPF for 2 Canadian teams.

Where it all went wrong for Anderson and Dawson = When Ambre and Samuel lost their event. It gave Robertson Rohner a gold medal and 26 points but moreover, the edge over all winners of two silvers.

Conclusion : there is a much higher chance that Canada will have 3 pairs teams in JGPF than 2 dance teams.