Oh the happy note, while Jeffrey's retirement was a bit unexpected in 2008, he did it at the right time maybe. He won an olympic bronze and WC, and left a winner. He focused on performing, he said he liked to perform, and he did JO for competition for 6 or 7 years. Some of my favourite long programs of him are from there, he also did some fantastic stuff as a choreographer. In hindsight his retirement doesn't feel very hasty, and he's been competing in seniors since 1998. Joannie's international career also lasted 10 years, of which 8 were at the senior level, and in my view a silver and a bronze at the world level is something to be proud of. She maintained form for many years, it's true, I saw her in a show in mid 2010s live, and I have to say she is a rare skater who takes show skating seriously. But who knows how much competitive reserve she still had. Also Shoma: he had a long career, it's just that there was always somebody else who was a priority: cash-bringers, 5-quadsters, 6-duadsters, and it kept feeling that his time was about to come, but it wasn't coming. But I also think Yuma in some respects is a better skater, he certainly hears music better and a is better jumper technically than Shoma. So, I don't know... Some of Shoma's underachievement may be of his own making. Also Weaver Poje's career was long, left a question if they could have achieved more should they stay longer, but I still think it was a good, long and fruitful career with some really good programs. Or I want to think this way.

But Ilyushechkina and partners and Moore-Towers and partners is such a sad story, and also Nicolas Nadeau.