2025 Grand Prix de France Men's Short Program

[elektra blue]

I looked up what Adam's program is about, well, I am not sure what the connection to this music is and I am sorry, I didn't understand the story, but the costume is kinda necessary. It's the only thing that really connects this program with Leonardo da Vinci. I mean, he still needs a circle though...

for Michelangelo he didn't dress up as David, to my disappointment, but got a generic shirt from Temu with Adam and God's hands on it (1,50 € on Temu, 15€ in every shop in Florence)

 

[elektra blue]

let's give him gigantic hula hop and look if it influences his axis

don't give him ideas, he might try to jump in it and Benoit might set it on fire

 

[yuumagical]

Kao is a strong and fierce skater, but he could have been skating to anything.

Please go see Carolina Kostner

Kao did this short program with a lot more style at Skate America last year, I would highly recommend watching it (and I seriously hope he gets back to that level of comfort with his program).

What are you questioning, Kao?!
Your 3A was a mess and you barely rotated and hung on to the 4T!
Be happy...geezus!

Maybe he's wondering how he got such a good score? I think he's lucky to have gotten such a good score as well...

 

[Isk]

Thanks...I'm a bit of a mess right now
My covid wrecked brain likely resembles the shirt from Mihhail's costume

Get well!

 

[flanker]

it depends on the man and the program

True Solomonic answer

 

[Karoltyna]

don't give him ideas, he might try to jump in it and Benoit might set it on fire

migosh, just imagined how he backflips, if there is a deduction for it, they may actually try..

 

[flanker]

If you ask me, something like Jin Boyang's here: with color and sparkles, has a coherent theme, and is not overloaded with ideas
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It's not closed question, anyone is free for an opinion

 

[Ichatdelune]

I feel that you are very generous.
To me the imrprovement is more like a C+ going to a B-

Hmm, yes I was, it must be that I recently had a conversation with a Korean Malinin fan and he was very much impressed by how his programs last season "showed his performative side much better", and when I responed with my honest opinion that a well-placed backflip does not a good artist make the mood became extremely awkward, and that made me more cautious when discussing artistry

 

[Karoltyna]

for Michelangelo he didn't dress up as David, to my disappointment, but got a generic shirt from Temu with Adam and God's hands on it (1,50 € on Temu, 15€ in every shop in Florence)

today I realized I had somethimg similar (only without hands) when I was pregnant because the pattern somehow made me look smaller then I was

 

[4everchan]

Hmm, yes I was, it must be that I recently had a conversation with a Korean Malinin fan and he was very much impressed by how his programs last season "showed his performative side much better", and when I responed with my honest opinion that a well-placed backflip does not a good artist make the mood became extremely awkward, and that made me more cautious when discussing artistry

oh well.. speak thy mind, friend. Ilia has a lot of qualities on the ice and I have no issues at all with him being a world champion. I stood up for his performance in Montreal in 2024.
But, he is no Patrick Chan and will never be.

My issue is not that he isn't really. It's that some commentators or fans see things that are not there. Ilia doesn't need to become a great artist. We don't need to pretend that he is. He has all the tools he needs to win what he wants to win, except my heart as a fan. And that's fine. He has plenty of fans and he doesn't need me. But to say that he has improved tons in that department is just unfair to the skaters who really have honed that part of skating.

Just my opinion.

 

[Isk]

I just hope we don't get Modigliani and Toulouse-Lautrec next year.

He could go for Dega and wear a tutu...

 

[Arigato]

The rest is as it was, wooden and straight legs.

As a person who lives for fluidity in skating, you can imagine my position on the matter.

 

[Karoltyna]

oh well.. speak thy mind, friend. Ilia has a lot of qualities on the ice and I have no issues at all with him being a world champion. I stood up for his performance in Montreal in 2024.
But, he is no Patrick Chan and will never be.

My issue is not that he isn't really. It's that some commentators or fans see things that are not there. Ilia doesn't need to become a great artist. We don't need to pretend that he is. He has all the tools he needs to win what he wants to win, except my heart as a fan. And that's fine. He has plenty of fans and he doesn't need me. But to say that he has improved tons in that department is just unfair to the skaters who really have honed that part of skating.

Just my opinion.

Exactly my thoughts. He wins with his tech nad this is ok, he hes highest tech content, don't make him an artist he just isn't. It's doing him disservice and is unfair to skaters who actually are artists.

 

[Ichatdelune]

oh well.. speak thy mind, friend. Ilia has a lot of qualities on the ice and I have no issues at all with him being a world champion. I stood up for his performance in Montreal in 2024.
But, he is no Patrick Chan and will never be.

My issue is not that he isn't really. It's that some commentators or fans see things that are not there. Ilia doesn't need to become a great artist. We don't need to pretend that he is. He has all the tools he needs to win what he wants to win, except my heart as a fan. And that's fine. He has plenty of fans and he doesn't need me. But to say that he has improved tons in that department is just unfair to the skaters who really have honed that part of skating.

Just my opinion.

When I'm asked about my stance on Ilia Malinin I'm just going to quote this whole (plus add some more examples other than Chiddy), and I will post a wall of text with a related rant on the new lounge thread thing

 

[lariko]

Ilia is not skating to Gladiator music so why is costume is like that ? It's a big no for me, It doesn't match the music.

It's still fantasy armor, just Persian. I linked a bunch of images though the games have lots of reincarnations

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[lariko]

And with that I am going to bow out to let everyone who wants to be squinty and snippy about Malinin to do what they want.

 

[Arigato]

Good thing Chris was here. Why some don't like him, I'm not quite sure. And still enjoying that music from Pitot's program. I've replayed it twice.

 

[museksk8r]

Malinin is easily winning everything in sight because of his insane consistency and difficulty. Who knows how his story will play out at the Olympics, as it’s a completely different level of pressure that many of these athletes have never faced before. History has showed us that it’s not necessarily a good thing to be the favorite in the men’s discipline at the Olympics. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out, who goes for broke, and who plays it smart. The best strategist and who best handles the pressure and his health will prevail.

 

[Ares]

don't give him ideas, he might try to jump in it and Benoit might set it on fire

Giant hula-hop, Titanic, Leonardo da Vinci, post-modernist art house cinema, Cats. Make a program out of it (it needs to be connected to all points, Benoit).

 

[elektra blue]

Giant hula-hop, Titanic, Leonardo da Vinci, post-modernist art house cinema, Cats. Make a program out of it (it needs to be connected to all points, Benoit).

the cat has to be black