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How much interest can Alysa Liu revive in figure skating in the US?

To me this effect is strange, though that has nothing to do with Alysa as a person and champion, but with the public at large.

It's not as if there haven't been successes the last few years. But Alysa wins Olympic Gold in the women's category, and suddenly there's this positive effect. Don't get me wrong, I am happy for this effect. Anything that improves the popularity of Figure Skating is a positive thing.
the US fans have always valued women figure skating more... just like I'd say Canadians have valued men more, Russia, pairs... and perhaps we could say that France values their dance teams more.

It's sad that skaters like Nathan Chen weren't celebrated as much. Nathan is definitely my favourite US skaters of all times.
 
the US fans have always valued women figure skating more... just like I'd say Canadians have valued men more, Russia, pairs... and perhaps we could say that France values their dance teams more.

It's sad that skaters like Nathan Chen weren't celebrated as much. Nathan is definitely my favourite US skaters of all times.
That’s not true. :rolleye:
 
I'm sure the higher percentage increase in Learn to Skate enrollments is not solely due to Alysa Liu winning the Olympic gold medal. For sure, Alysa's personality and delightful showing in Milan has sparked great interest, particularly in her, but she is surely not the only reason for the jump in enrollments. There are also other measures yet to be weighed regarding lasting mainstream interest in the sport. But the effusive cultural interest in Alysa seems to be humming along at a high pace.

The bigger question I think is whether or not Alysa will be able to continue her competitive career while juggling off-ice interest, remunerative offers, and non-skating related projects.
 
Well, that's my perception of things. Maybe yours is different.
I would agree that the average person on the street in the US values Women skaters more than others. But I believe that Alysa is way more than a women skater in the eyes of the public. She has a form of charisma , in part due to her story and in part due to who she is...an IT girl. She has been named one of Time Magazine's 100 most influential people this year. This transcends way out of the realm of skating. She is now a superstar. How long this effect will last is of course anyone's guess. As long as Yuna? I would guess not but for now, I would say she has a great effect on the sport in the US. (I have not had time to read the thread so this may have been repeated) Ride the wave, Alysa,...all glory is fleeting.
 
I would agree that the average person on the street in the US values Women skaters more than others. But I believe that Alysa is way more than a women skater in the eyes of the public. She has a form of charisma , in part due to her story and in part due to who she is...an IT girl. She has been named one of Time Magazine's 100 most influential people this year. This transcends way out of the realm of skating. She is now a superstar. How long this effect will last is of course anyone's guess. As long as Yuna? I would guess not but for now, I would say she has a great effect on the sport in the US. (I have not had time to read the thread so this may have been repeated) Ride the wave, Alysa,...all glory is fleeting.
yes. I think both factors may be at play here.
 
the US fans have always valued women figure skating more... just like I'd say Canadians have valued men more, Russia, pairs... and perhaps we could say that France values their dance teams more.

It's sad that skaters like Nathan Chen weren't celebrated as much. Nathan is definitely my favourite US skaters of all times.
I agree with this even if I put Alysa up there as well for me.
 

This was in the Alysa Liu fanfest thread.


May this inspire more coaches to be like Alysa's coaches:

"
REMSEN: I want to ask about your coaches, Phillip DiGuglielmo and Massimo Scali. They were so fun to watch at the Olympics. The drama! Are you sticking with them?

LIU: Yes. Oh my god. Not even a question. I’m sticking with them. They’re great and they know me so well.

REMSEN: Are they funny? Do they joke around with you?

LIU: They are hilarious. Yeah, they are so funny. Sometimes I feel like I’m paying to have a good time.

REMSEN: Love that.

LIU: And great conversation. Yeah, it’s so great. I love them.

REMSEN: I love that answer because then it sort of takes the strict—

LIU: The work stuff away! Like, with them, it feels like I want to do this. I’m not scared of them at all. When I was younger, I was scared of my old coaches. I think one big factor, the thing that really changed the sport for me, was that I’m now not scared of my coaches, I’m not scared of my team, I’m not scared of my trainers or any of them. So yeah, no stress
"

If it does, more kids will start and stay with skating.
 
I'm sure the higher percentage increase in Learn to Skate enrollments is not solely due to Alysa Liu winning the Olympic gold medal. For sure, Alysa's personality and delightful showing in Milan has sparked great interest, particularly in her, but she is surely not the only reason for the jump in enrollments. There are also other measures yet to be weighed regarding lasting mainstream interest in the sport.
I will politely disagree.
I am sure that the enrollment was caused directly by Alysa's message that figure skating should not be a sport for martyrs. Many people were probably thinking that they would love to try figure skating just for fun but then they were told that figure skating is a sport only for highly motivated athletes who torture themselves for success - and then they changed their mind. Now, the Olympic champion has said that figure skating is fun if you let it be. Why not to listen and give it a try?
 
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I will politely disagree.
I am sure that the enrollment was caused directly by Alysa's message that it should not be a sport for martyrs. Many people were probably thinking that they would love to try figure skating just for fun but then they were told that figure skating is a sport only for highly motivated athletes who torture themselves for success - and then they changed their mind. Now, the Olympic champion has said that figure skating is fun if you let it be. Why not to listen and give it a try?
I'm sure the increase in enrollment is directly related to Alysa Liu's gold medal win and to her infectious personality and presence. Yet, I don't believe that all of the increase is solely attributable to Alysa. Not everything that happened in figure skating at the '26 Olympics was about Alysa Liu. There were other fs athletes who achieved great results or who became role models due to their conduct and high achievements at the Milan Olympics.

A lot of the interest is not specifically measurable in any case unless scientific-based studies are conducted to determine attributable factors directly connected to enrollment increases. Beyond increased enrollment, there has been a steady general increase in interest in figure skating in recent years, with a younger audience paying more attention to the sport. Such interest will surely be solidified and expanded as a result of Alysa's popularity. Long term, however, the sport's handlers will need to learn how to maintain and continue broadening interest. It would be beneficial, for example, if Ilia's widespread fame was better utilized to increase enrollment of boys and young men in Learn to Skate programs.

I'm not sure figure skating currently has enough smart, vigorous, and visionary leadership to maintain an expanded public interest in figure skating. I doubt that Alysa, no matter how culturally popular she has become is going to be able to carry the entire sport on her shoulders over the next four years and beyond. But certainly, Alysa's reach and profile might continue for some time, depending upon the choices she makes in effectively and productively utilizing the platform she has gained.
 
My OP specifically stated "This is not who deserves to be celebrated" or "Who was the best skater in Milan". That is another thread. :)

I will just repeat myself., something I love to do :biggrin: I have watched figure skating for a, hmmm, long time. Seeing a figure skater reach and touch the general US public like this? Hasn't happened recently, I can tell you that. And by recently, I mean 30 years. ;)

I hope this rising tide stays and lifts all boats. So far, every interview I have seen with Alysa impresses me. I would not have predicted her for this kind of fame, but I'm glad she found it.
 
My OP specifically stated "This is not who deserves to be celebrated" or "Who was the best skater in Milan". That is another thread. :)

I will just repeat myself., something I love to do :biggrin: I have watched figure skating for a, hmmm, long time. Seeing a figure skater reach and touch the general US public like this? Hasn't happened recently, I can tell you that. And by recently, I mean 30 years. ;)

I hope this rising tide stays and lifts all boats. So far, every interview I have seen with Alysa impresses me. I would not have predicted her for this kind of fame, but I'm glad she does.
Thanks @el henry. 🙂 Regarding the thread topic, my comment that Alysa was not the only figure skating athlete who made an impact at the '26 Olympics, is not stated for purposes of discussing 'who deserves to be celebrated' or 'who was the best skater in Milan.' I'm not even interested in those types of conversations. There is no one skater 'who deserves to be celebrated' above others. And, there is no one individual athlete 'who was the best skater in Milan.' For me, the Olympics is never about measuring absolutes.

I will repeat myself, too: I am sure that the increased enrollment in Learn to Skate programs has a great deal to do with Alysa's gold medal win at the Olympics, but even moreso with how she won by going out on the ice to have fun and to be herself. Whether Alysa had won gold or silver, she touched a lot of people through her vibe and her personality. That's what has resonated most of all, hugely complemented by her costume, hairstyle, and music selection. All have now melded into this Zeitgeist phenomenon with drag queens already enacting viral clip parodies of her Olympic fp on IG. I observe it all with great interest and admiration, but I am not overly caught up in it, nor compelled by it. Perhaps because at my age I have relinquished my former passionate, up-to-the-moment interest and knowledge in the latest movies, music, and popular culture happenings. 😉

Having been a long time figure skating viewer (just over 55 years of avid watching), I already know a lot about Alysa's skating career. As likely one of the oldest of the older generation on this fan site, I've seen a lot through my years of watching figure skating. We obviously are living now in a completely different age and era, where it has been possible for someone as unique as Alysa to amass an incredibly huge following over the space of several weeks to months. Incredible!!! Prior to her Olympics stardom, Alysa had hundreds of thousands of followers on IG. She now has over 8 million. 👀 That's beyond astonishing. She's a media darling and a cultural icon at this point. But in this age of Internet fame, let's be cautionary and calm regarding social media acclaim. For sure, Alysa is handling it all exceptionally well with her smarts and her irrepressible personality. It truly helped her to take a break before coming back to skating on her own terms.

Once again, to specifically answer the thread topic, it is purely anyone's guess re whether or not the huge interest in Alysa will translate into sustained and broader interest in figure skating. From my perspective and years of observation, I say: No. The phenomenal interest in Alysa Liu is mostly about Alysa and her personality, not about the sport. Figure skating is only the backdrop to Alysa's starshine; the shoelaces to her Adidas charm and excellence; an afterthought to her vibing presence (hairstyle, nose lip/frenulum ring, golden dress, Laufey tune, IDGAF 'tude); etc. In other words, figure skating is the 'spare' to Alysa's coronation. 👑 😜

It's the sport and its 'handlers' who will need to position and effectively promote the sport and the skaters in honest and significant ways before huge, sustained interest in figure skating beyond the Olympics can occur.

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To correct Alysa's proper piercing! 😗
 
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yes. I think both factors may be at play here.
I dont think I have ever seen a skater like her....when she won worlds, her Social Media comment was, "What the Hell?" But in her case, the program made the skater. John Q. public looses all interest when a skater comes out and does classical music, no matter how good. Or some sort of rapp/steel guitar thing. But people related to Mc Park and she related to it. She was a rock star on stage performing...like on 10 cans of Red Bull. The right music with the right skater can move mountains.... its all about emotional connection. She should do Bye Bye Miss American Pie. Who remembers Rudy G doing YMCA?
 
Thanks @el henry. 🙂 Regarding the thread topic, my comment that Alysa was not the only figure skating athlete who made an impact at the '26 Olympics, is not stated for purposes of discussing 'who deserves to be celebrated' or 'who was the best skater in Milan.' I'm not even interested in those types of conversations. There is no one skater 'who deserves to be celebrated' above others. And, there is no one individual athlete 'who was the best skater in Milan.' For me, the Olympics is never about measuring absolutes.

I will repeat myself, too: I am sure that the increased enrollment in Learn to Skate programs has a great deal to do with Alysa's gold medal win at the Olympics, but even moreso with how she won by going out on the ice to have fun and to be herself. Whether Alysa had won gold or silver, she touched a lot of people through her vibe and her personality. That's what has resonated most of all, hugely complemented by her costume, hairstyle, and music selection. All have now melded into this Zeitgeist phenomenon with drag queens already enacting viral clip parodies of her Olympic fp on IG. I observe it all with great interest and admiration, but I am not overly caught up in it, nor compelled by it. Perhaps because at my age I have relinquished my former passionate, up-to-the-moment interest and knowledge in the latest movies, music, and popular culture happenings. 😉

Having been a long time figure skating viewer (just over 55 years of avid watching), I already know a lot about Alysa's skating career. As likely one of the oldest of the older generation on this fan site, I've seen a lot through my years of watching figure skating. We obviously are living now in a completely different age and era, where it has been possible for someone as unique as Alysa to amass an incredibly huge following over the space of several weeks to months. Incredible!!! Prior to her Olympics stardom, Alysa had hundreds of thousands of followers on IG. She now has over 8 million. 👀 That's beyond astonishing. She's a media darling and a cultural icon at this point. But in this age of Internet fame, let's be cautionary and calm regarding social media acclaim. For sure, Alysa is handling it all exceptionally well with her smarts and her irrepressible personality. It truly helped her to take a break before coming back to skating on her own terms.

Once again, to specifically answer the thread topic, it is purely anyone's guess re whether or not the huge interest in Alysa will translate into sustained and broader interest in figure skating. From my perspective and years of observation, I say: No. The phenomenal interest in Alysa Liu is mostly about Alysa and her personality, not about the sport. Figure skating is only the backdrop to Alysa's starshine; the shoelaces to her Adidas charm and excellence; an afterthought to her vibing presence (hairstyle, nose ring, golden dress, Laufey tune, IDGAF 'tude); etc. In other words, figure skating is the 'spare' to Alysa's coronation. 👑 😜

It's the sport and its 'handlers' who will need to position and effectively promote the sport and the skaters in honest and significant ways before huge, sustained interest in figure skating beyond the Olympics can occur.
I would say in the short term she will have a great effect. But I still say this is less about her being a skater and more like her being a Taylor Swift, who happens to sing.
BTW, Quote: If you've noticed jewelry on Alysa's teeth when she smiles (which she does A LOT!), that would be her "smiley," aka frenulum piercing, which she literally did herself. Note: the frenulum connects the lips to the gums, and if you pierce it, the ring—depending on its size—hangs down in front of your teeth. Unquote. She did this with a sister....Not my thing personally but it seems to draw interest like Taylor Swift's outfits....
 
As it's been said, anything that can help figure skating to get more mainstream would be good. I think if the sport were to be less niche-like, it may solve some of the issues it faces. (money, judging, exposure, etc)
Becoming less 'niche-like' is easier said than done. The lack of leadership, vision, true understanding of the sport, and hands-on involvement by figure skaters in the running of the sport are huge obstacles to the myriad other 'issues being faced,' IMO.
 
Becoming less 'niche-like' is easier said than done. The lack of leadership, vision, true understanding of the sport, and hands-on involvement by figure skaters in the running of the sport are huge obstacles to the myriad other 'issues being faced,' IMO.
Didn't say it would be easy and of course, to get back to the OP, I actually do not believe one skater can do this on her own. Alysa can have a huge positive impact on American skating. I hope so. But it's also a lot of responsibility to put on her.
 
I am not surprised that a female skater produced more of a ripple in therms of sign-ups for learn-to-skate programs in the U.S. than is the case for successful men skaters and skaters in other disciplines. It's just mathematics -- there are more little girls interesting in the sport than little boys, so an increase in girls' participation has a bigger overall satistical effect.

My own experience in attending lots of local club shows over the years is that girls outnumber boys by at least four-to-one -- although the audiences (mostly parents and grandparents) seem to cheer most loudly for the young gentlemen int their tuxes and bow ties.
 
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Becoming less 'niche-like' is easier said than done. The lack of leadership, vision, true understanding of the sport, and hands-on involvement by figure skaters in the running of the sport are huge obstacles to the myriad other 'issues being faced,' IMO.
ITA. Personally, I have to be a realist although you may call me a pessimist. I have seen skating go from a sport in the last century that was bigger than basketball...from Holiday specials to Pro comps to many movies involving skating to 76 traveling ice show stops a year ...to a niche sport. I think most of us older folk know the reasons why this happened in our society.
Us real fans can enjoy this mini resergence for awhile. I suspect the times of the poor attendence at Four Conts 2023 Colorado springs where a person could have enjoyed cheep motel and food prices at/near a great facility and seen Many wonderful skaters at a fair price will return . I am old and dont understand the fascination for games of the ball and for Superstars like Taylor swift...I have no idea why her fan base is primarily women and I dont understand lots of things in today's America. But I do know when I go to an event, the people seem to be getting older. I am thankful there are countries like Japan that while Skating isnt big if you look at the stats, it is huge with the ladies there. SA Everett attendence will be interesting, both from Japan and the US. After that? Crystal ball cloudy, ask again later. Oh look, skaters honored at the PM's office.....
 
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LIU: ...When I was younger, I was scared of my old coaches. I think one big factor, the thing that really changed the sport for me, was that I’m now not scared of my coaches...
This is what I wish for every young skater. Your coach is there to teach you, not to bully and bludgeon you into self-doubts and feelings of inadequacy.
 
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