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Ekaterina Tsipukhina is back to Butsaeva.
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Tbh, I don't see what she could to move up higher than she's now. At the same time, it looks like she has everything to be a great pair skater. But in any case, this is a bold move.
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The problem is that pairs are becoming as stuffed as women in Russia currently, the breakthrough will be difficult. I am curious whether Lyashenko/Alekseenko shall start as seniors immediately or they will do one season as juniors.
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Some more transfers info, sorry for putting it all here incl. other cathegorties:
Vadim and Dombromir Voronov left Veronika Butsaeva for Veronika Daineko.
Ice dancers Anna Kolomenskaya and Artem Frolov, who trained with Anzhelika Krylova, have joined Denis Samokhin's group.
Maxim Avtushenko from "Angels of Plushenko" moved to Svetlana Sokolovskaya's "Our Hopes".
Maxim Belyavsky's new coach is Yulia Lipnitskaya, who previously worked with Victoria Butsaeva.
Ekaterina Tsipukhina moved from Elena Kroshkina to Victoria Butsaeva.
Vadim and Dombromir Voronov left Veronika Butsaeva for Veronika Daineko.
Ice dancers Anna Kolomenskaya and Artem Frolov, who trained with Anzhelika Krylova, have joined Denis Samokhin's group.
Maxim Avtushenko from "Angels of Plushenko" moved to Svetlana Sokolovskaya's "Our Hopes".
Maxim Belyavsky's new coach is Yulia Lipnitskaya, who previously worked with Victoria Butsaeva.
Ekaterina Tsipukhina moved from Elena Kroshkina to Victoria Butsaeva.
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Senior pairs are not as stacked as senior women. Especially with all this juniors moving up in the upcoming season. Right now, there is a team in the national team who last season never had a FS without falls. I think at least the reserve of the national team is achievable in pairs. I only have doubts about her partner.
Rumours are about seniors.
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Given her lack of ultra-cs, I agree she was never going to become a national champ, and would perhaps remain a longshot for a nationals medal of any color. But with another season or two to blossom in seniors, I could have seen her becoming a skater who's consistently in contention for the national/reserve team, similar to Anna Frolova, Ksenia Gushchina, Kseniia Sinitsyna, Veronika Yametova, etc..
Keep in mind that the top skaters right now may have limited runway looking ahead. Alisa is already dealing with serious injury. Dasha has never been able to sort out her stability issues. Adeliya may lack motivation now that the Olympics are behind her. Mura is leaving. Sasha and Kamila...who knows what to expect, or how long their returns will last. So there could have still been an opening for a skater like Anna – who, keep in mind, is more likely to stay healthy than these skaters given that she's less aggressive technically.
And while there are strong skaters coming up to seniors next season and beyond, it's tough to say who will still be ascendant at that point. Sofia D. and Lidia, coming up this season, are quite promising. But when you look the season after that, there are a number of names who once seemed super promising, who now seem like they may already be past their peaks before even reaching seniors: Margo, Alena Prineva, Liza Andreeva, etc.. (Will we be saying the same of skaters like Lena a year or two from now? It's possible.)
Anyway, sorry to be so long-winded. I just think there was more of an opportunity for Anna than she and some fans might have realized. Maybe she would have never stood on a national podium, but she still could have carved out a nice career for herself, as others have done.
With all that said, best of luck to her in pairs. Who knows, it could wind up working out for the best.
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Yes, of course, she could keep working on her SS and performance and hope that it would work out. But even the reserve team is not guaranteed in any case. It never worked for Kulikova, for example. Even Sinitsyna once tried to switch to pairs.
Starting this year, a dozen girls will be added to the senior lineup every year. Surely not everyone will have a smooth transition into seniors. However, it'll just be a highly competitive field. Not only there be will ultra-c girls but also strong skaters with triples like Agata Petrova. As for Lidiia and Sofia D., even if they don't maintain their ultra-c, they will be strong competitors due to their PCS.
There's no such field in pair skating and there's a chance for a long career. And if it doesn't work out, she can always come back.
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Yes, I agree there's the potential for her to become a strong pairs skater. (Although I've heard mixed reports on the strength of her partner?)
At the same time, I'm not convinced it's all that less competitive.
Boikova & Kozlovskii and Mishina & Galliamov seem intent on sticking around this Olympic cycle, with the hope of finally returning to the international stage.
Chikmareva & Ianchenkov are young and amazing. Also among strong younger senior teams are Artemyeva & Briukhanov, Mukhortova & Evgenyev, Osokina & Gritsaenko, Shcherbinina & Petrov, Merenkova & Galimov, etc.. Kostornaia & Kunitsa have to be mentioned, too.
And then you get to juniors – some turning senior this season, some later this cycle – which includes five or so already strong teams at Team Tutberidze, along with competitive teams from other schools like Kasins & Bregey and Domozhirova & Vegera.
Personally, I'm not sure it's going to be much easier to make the national team in pairs than in womens. At least in womens you can count on there being some attrition in seniors, which opens up spots if you're smart and stay healthy. (Ksenia Gushchina being a good example of this strategy.) In pairs, you get some leading teams that stick around forever, leaving limited openings for younger and/or newer teams to step up.
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This too. Polina Tikhonova is much happier in ID, for example.
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Are you allowed to tell us what that well-known European federation is?
She was 16 and had a breakout season, how could you even say that? She had great charisma and technique. I don't see how there is anything wrong with her compared to any triple skater. I don't see what makes you think she couldn't reach a level of any other triple skater.
Are senior women even stacked though. They weren't good last season even though they should've been on paper. There are new seniors but it could still be a disaster. Not that pairs were amazing either. But they were more in line with expectations than the women. I still think men are by far the most interesting right now.
Dvoeglazova? Where is that from?
She did say she wants to try for 2030.
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Well, yes, if you look at my previous post about how stacked the Russian pairs field is, it's pretty apparent how glorious it is.
I'm just saying that despite some of the dismissive comments about her prospects, Anna could have had a nice career for herself in singles. And I'm also pointing out that I don't think advancing in pairs will be much if any easier than it would have been in singles.
That doesn't mean she shouldn't have made the move, or that it won't work out for her. I'll be rooting for Anna.
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Sorry, I can't. However, I know this federation is in advanced discussions with a couple of promising Russian juniors. (Skaters who aren't household names at this point, but who would be contenders for medals on the ISU JGP if and when they transfer.)
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It's been all over the Russian media that she's injured and not expected to be ready for the start of the season.
I also wouldn't be shocked if, when Alisa returns, it's to Mishin and not Eteri. I think she blames Team Tut for her injury situation. (She was apparently made to perform advanced content during the Team Tut tour despite already having injury trouble, which might have led to something more serious.) I hear there was some friction and resentment over the favoritism Sasha was immediately shown by Eteri after her return, despite Alisa arguably being their strongest senior last season. And then, of course, there's the Arseniy factor.
Separately, I wouldn't be shocked if we see Liza Andreeva jump over to Team Sokolovskaya.
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She landed badly at a Team Tut show. She didn't perform her second EX that day and missed the rest of the tour.
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So what do you do that you're able to speak with Mura directly and have all this information? Did you speak through a manager? I didn't know you were an insider.
That's weird I didn't see that about her. Is there any strong reason other than speculation you think she blames Eteri and might leave? The thing is Mishin isn't really known for cultivating quads, but also that might be in her interest actually. Is the Sasha friction also insider info?
What happened with Arseniy? Did he leave?
I've been keeping up with the telegram channels I don't know how I missed all of this.
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Someone told me yesterday that Alisa has basically gone silent on everyone at Team Tut for the past week.
Who knows, maybe they patch things up over the summer. Though I don't think moving to Mishin would be the worst thing for her. The last thing I think any of us fans want to see is for Alisa to become another Sofya Akatyeva.
IMO, Eteri is being foolish here. (I don't why she pulls this BS with playing favorites, when it's backfired on her so many times in the past. She just can't help herself, it's pathetic.) Sasha looks good in training, but we have no idea at this point how she'll hold up in competition, or if she'll remain motivated if the international return of Russian seniors is delayed until late into this Olympic cycle, especially if we assume she wants to continue to grow her family. And while Sasha no doubt helps sell tickets to Eteri's shows, we also know that Sasha isn't particularly loyal to coaching staffs over time.
Alisa, meanwhile, if she heals alright, will undoubtedly be one of the favorites for RusNats this season – just as she was last season – and perhaps for another few seasons beyond this.
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