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Skating Podiatrist recommendation

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Hello! My 90lb daughter has major foot issues in the three years she has skated. (flat,pronation, bunions and huge Haglund bumps plus other hot spots) Now she is working on bigger jumps ( double doubles and 2a training) and doing ice dance, the inflammation is very painful.

Boots: Started in Jackson, went to Risport rf3 aa and broke both pairs down in 3-4 mths each. Now in ice fly B with custom insoles.

She is starting with a new pt but I am now on the hunt for a podiatrist that either skates or is very knowledgeable about skating. Help please! :) thank you!
 
Could you maybe provide us with your approximate location, and how far you are willing to drive or otherwise travel?

I wonder if a very good orthotist could do what you want. Sometimes podiatrists give a trusted orthotist a "blank prescription", letting the orthotist figure out what to do. Some podiatrists are better at diagnosing certain medical conditions then they are at figuring out how to make a shoe or boot work well.

It's also possible your skate boot fitter wasn't extremely expert - there are a relatively small number who are much better respected than the rest.
 
We are in North Carolina but can travel east coast and Central US. Would rather not fly to the west coast. ;) thank you
 
We are in North Carolina but can travel east coast and Central US. Would rather not fly to the west coast. ;) thank you
Just be aware that proper treatment will not be a "one and done" procedure. You most likely will need multiple visits: e.g., an initial consult followed by a fitting (scan or casting) for orthotics; after you receive the orthotics (which can be mailed to you if you don't want to make a special visit to pick them up), you will likely need one or more follow-up visits for adjustments. Good luck to your daughter! [ETA: And are your daughter's feet still growing? If so, that will mean more visits in the future.]
 
Wow! North Carolina to Boston would be quite a drive... Assuming you drive. Two very well respected podiatrists who have treated many figure skaters, and who are somewhat closer are Dr. Paul Meissner (who according to the info I received, plays or played hockey, and is the father of a former Olympic figure skater), who works near Baltimore, MD, and Dr. Jonathon P Contompasis, in Wilmington, DE, and Kennet Squsre, PA, last I knew. It is easy to find contact information for them online, at the several offices they each work at. BTW, I don't know if they are still in business - you could check.

BTW, unlike Ic3Rabbit, I'm not an elite skater or coach, nor have I seen either of those podiatrists. I'm basing that on what other people have told me, who were happy with having seen them. In particular, about a dozen skaters I've met over the years who, like me were fit badly for custom skates, by a certain fitter, who shall not be named here. They all saw Meissner, and were very happy with the results.

Podiatrists are quite expensive, especially if you need multiple visits. As far as I know they modify your current boots, rather than make or order new ones that come very close to fitting you right in the first place. (Am I wrong? Do some of them order boots for you?) Perhaps it would be worthwhile finding one of the very few really good boot fitters... That is, if your current fitter doesn't happen to be one of those few. If you mention your fitter, maybe someone here could tell you if they are among the best.
 
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I hope they are able to help her and she gets the relief she needs.
thank you! She went for PT today and they sent her right over for an Xray to rule out an avulsion fracture. Not that but ... Looks like bursitis. Uggh. orthopedic visit coming Friday and then we can get some more long term care from your recommendations. I appreciate you all!
 
Wow! North Carolina to Boston would be quite a drive... Assuming you drive. Two very well respected podiatrists who have treated many figure skaters, and who are somewhat closer are Dr. Paul Meissner (who according to the info I received, plays or played hockey, and is the father of a former Olympic figure skater), who works near Baltimore, MD, and Dr. Jonathon P Contompasis, in Wilmington, DE, and Kennet Squsre, PA, last I knew. It is easy to find contact information for them online, at the several offices they each work at. BTW, I don't know if they are still in business - you could check.

BTW, unlike Ic3Rabbit, I'm not an elite skater or coach, nor have I seen either of those podiatrists. I'm basing that on what other people have told me, who were happy with having seen them. In particular, about a dozen skaters I've met over the years who, like me were fit badly for custom skates, by a certain fitter, who shall not be named here. They all saw Meissner, and were very happy with the results.

Podiatrists are quite expensive, especially if you need multiple visits. As far as I know they modify your current boots, rather than make or order new ones that come very close to fitting you right in the first place. (Am I wrong? Do some of them order boots for you?) Perhaps it would be worthwhile finding one of the very few really good boot fitters... That is, if your current fitter doesn't happen to be one of those few. If you mention your fitter, maybe someone here could tell you if they are among the best.
thank you for the recommendations! We would fly to Providence as there are cheap Breeze flights. I will check out the people you suggested near DC. We have been up there frequently. For competitions. ;) I am gratef for your help! Christine
 
Just be aware that proper treatment will not be a "one and done" procedure. You most likely will need multiple visits: e.g., an initial consult followed by a fitting (scan or casting) for orthotics; after you receive the orthotics (which can be mailed to you if you don't want to make a special visit to pick them up), you will likely need one or more follow-up visits for adjustments. Good luck to your daughter! [ETA: And are your daughter's feet still growing? If so, that will mean more visits in the future.]
thank you so much. I think her feet are just about done growing. Her last few pairs of skates have all been the same size. We know this will be awfully expensive but we need to fjnd out what is going on and prevent a lifetime of injury. I pray we can help her.
 
I had a specific reason for suggesting you question whether your boot fitter is optimal:

Hagland's Deformities are, as far as I have been able to read about on the Internet, often or usually caused by shoes or boots that fit imperfectly (e.g., too tightly) at the back of the foot. Likewise bunions are also often or usually caused by fit problems, specifically too much pressure at the sides of the toes, especially the big toe. That could possibly mean your fitter did one or more of the following:
1. They fit you for boots that don't match her feet very well.
2. They didn't do a heat mold, or did it wrong.
3. They didn't make other modifications to her boots that might have solved the problem, such as stretching out tight spots, or filling in loose spots.

As difficult as this is to believe there really are relatively few (probably less than a dozen) skate technicians in the entire world who are regarded by the figure skating community as being overwhelmingly better at such things than the rest. They don't tend to be the cheapest, and people often do travel long distances to consult with them. I watched one work for a couple months, trying to learn things from him. He worked in Maryland (but has retired :() but was often seen in person by people from far away places like Japan and Europe. And some of those people even regularly mailed their boots or blades back to him to get them sharpened. (Many of them had two pairs of boots or blades, so they could keep practicing while the boots were in the mail. Also so that if a boot or blade developed a sudden problem, or got lost in transit, they had an extra pair. Though since your daughter does both freestyle and ice dance, she would need 4 pair to do this - assuming she used boots that were separately optimized for freestyle and dance. Not all that cheap. But neither is seeing a distant podiatrist several times every time she gets new boots, or current ones develop fit problems.)

By the way, be sure to make an appointment to see whoever you see: don't just come to the store and assume they can see you. And come back when the boots arrive, so they can make final adjustments. And if a problem arises later, go back again. It's very inconvenient, and somewhat expensive but it seems like people who do this do tend to get better results - and maybe fewer long term health problems too.

Of course, I hope you went back to your fitter, and asked them whether they could do anything to solve those problems. If you didn't, then maybe you didn't give them a proper chance - without feedback, no or few fitters can always do an optimal job. Just like with doctors and orthotists. In all those cases, there are some elements of guesswork, and it is apparently hard to always get things right the first time.

Poor boot fit often reduces boot lifetime, especially but not soley for lightweight boots. I used to think that good, well fit figure skates should last for years, especially if they were sewn (rather than glued) together. But other more experienced people, like Ic3Rabbit, have indicated that it isn't unusual at this point in time for them only to last a few months of intensive use - Ic3Rabbit often mentions 3 months as typical here. If your daughter is doing both double jumps and ice dance, it is possible she is giving them a lot of use - more than many casual recreational skaters would give them in a few years. Also, between the fact that many boot manufacturers are emphasizing reducing weight, e.g., by using various plastics instead of thick heavy leather (which can be a fairly durable material), and cutting manufacturing costs by selecting glues that have desirable properties in the very short term, instead of sewing the entire boot together well, it is conceivable that modern boots are often less durable than older models. So perhaps only lasting 3 or 4 months doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong.
 
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I had a specific reason for suggesting you question whether your boot fitter is optimal:

Hagland's Deformities are, as far as I have been able to read about on the Internet, often or usually caused by shoes or boots that fit imperfectly (e.g., too tightly) at the back of the foot. Likewise bunions are also often or usually caused by fit problems, specifically too much pressure at the sides of the toes, especially the big toe. That could possibly mean your fitter did one or more of the following:
1. They fit you for boots that don't match her feet very well.
2. They didn't do a heat mold, or did it wrong.
3. They didn't make other modifications to her boots that might have solved the problem, such as stretching out tight spots, or filling in loose spots.

As difficult as this is to believe there really are relatively few (probably less than a dozen) skate technicians in the entire world who are regarded by the figure skating community as being overwhelmingly better at such things than the rest. They don't tend to be the cheapest, and people often do travel long distances to consult with them. I watched one work for a couple months, trying to learn things from him. He worked in Maryland (but has retired :() but was often seen in person by people from far away places like Japan and Europe. And some of those people even regularly mailed their boots or blades back to him to get them sharpened. (Many of them had two pairs of boots or blades, so they could keep practicing while the boots were in the mail. Also so that if a boot or blade developed a sudden problem, or got lost in transit, they had an extra pair. Though since your daughter does both freestyle and ice dance, she would need 4 pair to do this - assuming she used boots that were separately optimized for freestyle and dance. Not all that cheap. But neither is seeing a distant podiatrist several times every time she gets new boots, or current ones develop fit problems.)

By the way, be sure to make an appointment to see whoever you see: don't just come to the store and assume they can see you. And come back when the boots arrive, so they can make final adjustments. And if a problem arises later, go back again. It's very inconvenient, and somewhat expensive but it seems like people who do this do tend to get better results - and maybe fewer long term health problems too.

Of course, I hope you went back to your fitter, and asked them whether they could do anything to solve those problems. If you didn't, then maybe you didn't give them a proper chance - without feedback, no or few fitters can always do an optimal job. Just like with doctors and orthotists. In all those cases, there are some elements of guesswork, and it is apparently hard to always get things right the first time.

Poor boot fit often reduces boot lifetime, especially but not soley for lightweight boots. I used to think that good, well fit figure skates should last for years, especially if they were sewn (rather than glued) together. But other more experienced people, like Ic3Rabbit, have indicated that it isn't unusual at this point in time for them only to last a few months of intensive use - Ic3Rabbit often mentions 3 months as typical here. If your daughter is doing both double jumps and ice dance, it is possible she is giving them a lot of use - more than many casual recreational skaters would give them in a few years. Also, between the fact that many boot manufacturers are emphasizing reducing weight, e.g., by using various plastics instead of thick heavy leather (which can be a fairly durable material), and cutting manufacturing costs by selecting glues that have desirable properties in the very short term, instead of sewing the entire boot together well, it is conceivable that modern boots are often less durable than older models. So perhaps only lasting 3 or 4 months doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong.
I had a specific reason for suggesting you question whether your boot fitter is optimal:

Hagland's Deformities are, as far as I have been able to read about on the Internet, often or usually caused by shoes or boots that fit imperfectly (e.g., too tightly) at the back of the foot. Likewise bunions are also often or usually caused by fit problems, specifically too much pressure at the sides of the toes, especially the big toe. That could possibly mean your fitter did one or more of the following:
1. They fit you for boots that don't match her feet very well.
2. They didn't do a heat mold, or did it wrong.
3. They didn't make other modifications to her boots that might have solved the problem, such as stretching out tight spots, or filling in loose spots.

As difficult as this is to believe there really are relatively few (probably less than a dozen) skate technicians in the entire world who are regarded by the figure skating community as being overwhelmingly better at such things than the rest. They don't tend to be the cheapest, and people often do travel long distances to consult with them. I watched one work for a couple months, trying to learn things from him. He worked in Maryland (but has retired :() but was often seen in person by people from far away places like Japan and Europe. And some of those people even regularly mailed their boots or blades back to him to get them sharpened. (Many of them had two pairs of boots or blades, so they could keep practicing while the boots were in the mail. Also so that if a boot or blade developed a sudden problem, or got lost in transit, they had an extra pair. Though since your daughter does both freestyle and ice dance, she would need 4 pair to do this - assuming she used boots that were separately optimized for freestyle and dance. Not all that cheap. But neither is seeing a distant podiatrist several times every time she gets new boots, or current ones develop fit problems.)

By the way, be sure to make an appointment to see whoever you see: don't just come to the store and assume they can see you. And come back when the boots arrive, so they can make final adjustments. And if a problem arises later, go back again. It's very inconvenient, and somewhat expensive but it seems like people who do this do tend to get better results - and maybe fewer long term health problems too.

Of course, I hope you went back to your fitter, and asked them whether they could do anything to solve those problems. If you didn't, then maybe you didn't give them a proper chance - without feedback, no or few fitters can always do an optimal job. Just like with doctors and orthotists. In all those cases, there are some elements of guesswork, and it is apparently hard to always get things right the first time.

Poor boot fit often reduces boot lifetime, especially but not soley for lightweight boots. I used to think that good, well fit figure skates should last for years, especially if they were sewn (rather than glued) together. But other more experienced people, like Ic3Rabbit, have indicated that it isn't unusual at this point in time for them only to last a few months of intensive use - Ic3Rabbit often mentions 3 months as typical here. If your daughter is doing both double jumps and ice dance, it is possible she is giving them a lot of use - more than many casual recreational skaters would give them in a few years. Also, between the fact that many boot manufacturers are emphasizing reducing weight, e.g., by using various plastics instead of thick heavy leather (which can be a fairly durable material), and cutting manufacturing costs by selecting glues that have desirable properties in the very short term, instead of sewing the entire boot together well, it is conceivable that modern boots are often less durable than older models. So perhaps only lasting 3 or 4 months doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong.
Thank you for that thorough reply. :) We went to the orthopedic doc today and he said she cannot continue in the ice fly and heal up. Too much pressure. We are going to get the ankles bumped out on Sunday to buy some time until she can get fitted for a different brand. She has a competition in three weeks so I am hoping additional bump outs will get her through :)
 
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