Landing a quad in isolation in practice is one thing. Landing the quad in context within a program is another thing entirely. At Liberty, Chan didn't land the quad in the program, or the 3A either, for that matter.
I agree. He may end up doing well with it in competition, and he may not. After all, we know quite a few skaters have landed quads in practice but have struggled to do so in competition.
Last year posters were slamming Patrick because he was not even trying a Quad and did not have one planned in his program. Now this year he is practising one and plans to include it in his program and he is still getting slammed. I wonder why that is - oh wait of course I know he's Canadian!
Sackie, you got me. I hate all Canadians. It seems that everything's gone wrong since Canada came along*. Every Canadian skater I've ever seen has skated badly and was overmarked
all the time and Brian Orser is an awful coach. Also, maple syrup sucks.
I mean, come on. Can people not jump every time posters dare not to be overwhelmingly positive about Canadian skaters? I can guarantee that if there were reports and clips of Plushy landing a quad lutz in practice, or of Stephane finally sorting out his 3A, the response would have been
exactly the same. I'm glad most of the Canadian posters here are discussing the issue and not flinging accusations at the rest of us.
* That's from the South Park movie, for those not familiar with it. For the record, I've been to Canada twice, and have met several Canadians I like, even some on figure skating boards - some of whom
like Patrick Chan! Also, I like Virtue/Moir, and some of Dube/Davison's programs. D/L were great and I was really sad when they had to WD in Torino. Certainly I'd have preferred them to everyone who did end up on the podium.
I just want Joubert to come out of hiding (it's always so quiet around Joubert during the off-season) and make some propaganda for himself - or he might have lost the battle for Vancouver before it has even begun. He needs to put his face out there, get some audiences swooning (he is real good at that), have some gushing articles written about him.
This is the best I can do re Joubert. I think he's being deliberately quiet. There are also some clips from the July 23rd EX on dailymotion, or there were a few days ago.
Medusa, if the articles bother you...don't read them. They are mostly Canadian articles written and posted on CTV Olympics site. Of course they are going to praise Patrick. Most of us here in Canada are excited about the Olympics and our medal hopefuls...which include Patrick.
Maybe it only seems like propaganda to you because Patrick is the biggest threat to your favorites. Therefore, you don't want to believe it. As for people being chan-sensitive you are anti-chan. How is that any better?
The thing is, you guys did choose to post this on a general skating board. Not Chan's forum. Not a Canadian website. And some of us just aren't as excited about Chan in general, or about him landing a warmup quad (which may have been good; the clip jammed my computer, so I'm inclined to view it in a negative light
). Medusa is merely bringing balance to the force (it's movie day for me!). As she noted, she's critical when she feels it's warranted, regardless of who the skater is.
Chan is not the biggest threat to my favorites. He's just the one I enjoy watching the least, and I think if he doesn't medal in 2010 he might end up being truly special as a more mature, and maybe more artistically interesting 23 year old (in Sochi). If that explanation works for you, well, go ahead. But I warn you, Medusa and I probably won't change our minds
.
Oh, and Evan Lysacek was also overscored at the WTT.
