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Plushenko will honour us with his presence in 2010!

ok i saw the vid, this is his Lp
my heart hurts to see Plush struggling:cry:, he didnt look well from the beginning and all I was thinking during the program is that he should be thinking to add the second axel combo in a while...it was bad. I dont know what to think of.
anyway Plush interview after sp.
he says that his injury is a tear that affects his quadriceps(i lost that in translation), he searched for solution from acupuncture to ordinary medicine and unfortunately he has to go with injections and painkillers until the end of season....He got scared after first injection that he couldn't walk for 2 days and was ready to call retirement cause at the end health is more important, but then he began to feel better. He knows his sp skate was not for 100 and thanks judges and home crowd.
"I asked the doctor, he said that i was going to feel pain only for three hours - and I ached for two days. And then I really got scared. I thought that all my efforts this year went in vain, and was about to hang the skates on a nail, "
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"When I came back after a week of rest, then I did not hurt. I felt like at age 17 or 18 when I was in great shape. But this state lasted, alas, only three days, and then it all began again. So if I'm healthy, then (in Vancouver) will be all right "
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After his Lp he said that during the program he was mostly thinking about adding the jumps later 4t, 3 axel. I guess he left some program out. He said his injury bothers him and he is not in top form now. That is normal to not be in the form all the time , he had a good condition during September and October, with a peak at Rostel. Now it will begin again to increase his form from this competition, through the European and the peak will be at the Olympics hopefully.
I hope new year is brighter and luckier!
Congradulations Plushy today:clap:
 
seniorita said:
ok i saw the vid, this is his Lp
my heart hurts to see Plush struggling:cry:, he didnt look well from the beginning and all I was thinking during the program is that he should be thinking to add the second axel combo in a while...it was bad. I dont know what to think of.
anyway Plush interview after sp.
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I went to the interview page and my McAfee virus software kicked me out. It said the page was trying to do funny things with my computer.

Anyway, the injury can't be too bad, after all he set a world record. Of course, he won't get that in an ISU event.
 
What a wonderful way to end the day! Gone all day for last minute after Christmas Sales/Specials, then I come home to anxiously check how Zhenya did, only to find out not only did he win, but he won in spectactular fashion with deservedly high marks from his country, whom appreciate his rarity, longevity, and passion for the sport!:clap:

And to think its been only like two weeks since he sustained his injury, and to come out & skate clean in both portions of the competition, with quads & 3axels to boot, that's unheard of, remarkable. Seriously, is there anyone that can do what he just did!?! With so many injuries & operations, yet he just keeps on, like the Energizer Bunny commercial.:biggrin: Heck, even Brian Joubert was unable to skate at his Nationals due to his foot injury, and though Stephane Lambiel did manage to skate at his country's Nationals, even he was unable to skate as well as Evgeni did.

I just have to take my hat off to all three men, they truly do represent the ideal of the Olympic Games. And I hope all the young ones out there are paying attention, this is a special moment in history, one that they can share with loved ones decades from now, how they were able to skate with the very best of the best. Worthy role models, something to admire & emulate.

That said, I see Zhenya only getting stronger & stronger, if this competition is to go by. Two weeks from injury, undertrained due to said injury, yet he comes out & still manages to land quads & triple axels, and to win! Oh my, if he could do that in only two weeks, I can't imagine what he can do in TWO MONTHS!:love:


:party::party::party2::party2:GOOOOOOOOOO EVGENI!!!!:party2::party2::party::party:
 
seniorita said:
ok i saw the vid, this is his Lp
my heart hurts to see Plush struggling:cry:
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I was expecting worse from the comments I saw.

He lands a Quad and 2 Triple Axels (I was impressed that he did the 3Axel-2Toe combination cleanly that late in the program) and it's considered one of his worst performances. Shows how high his own personal standard is when it comes to the jumps.

The program has improved a little since Cup of Russia but it's still a LONG way from being great. I would put him behind Takahashi, for example, by probably 10 points in the PCS.
 
i thought his program went ten steps back comparing to Rostel the moment he missed the axel. Maybe cause I got panicked, plushy didnt:laugh: I will look again but I thought he left out even the basic choreo of Grand Prix. In any case I :bow: to his fight spirit and courage, and what he managed to do beinng injured and in the press conference he was so cuuute:love:

Russian Team for Euros has been announced.
ladies: Ksenia Makarova, Alena Leonova, Oksana Gozeva
men: Evgeni Plushenko, Sergei Voronov
pairs: Kavaguti -Smirnov, Mukhortova -Trankov, Bazarova -Larionov
icedance: Domnina - Shabalin, Bobrova - Solovyov, Khokhlova - Novitski
 
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Congratulations to Plushenko!

Even though I don't like this LP, I still root for him to win the Olympics. He is so much more exciting than some other skaters. I agree with the people who say that this LP needs a lot of polish. I hope to see a much more sophisticated LP from him at Euro's. But first of all, keep a good health and don't over work on his knees!

Forget about his scores.;) ...But on a second thought, if Evan could get 159.60 for his LP at GPF, Plushenko's LP score of 171.50 seems not so outragous.:laugh::p
 
Today was the family relaxing day and i watched the recorded competition of the Lps and my head is boiled after 2.5 hours in russian:sheesh:, i even watched the ads!:yes:

And I have made some conclusions, first of all how Plushy feels backstage when he walks around 10-15 mini plushy-copies?:laugh:Most boys out there was like i was watching him at his 17, with some exceptions!Mullet, posture, everything!Costumes need a whole thread by themselves!:p

I like the young student of Urmanov!And i like Borodulin much more than Voronov, I wish he could go at least to Euros!Probably they will send him to worlds.

Plush Lp has changed, they changed the music cuts and both footwork and I couldnt say much more from Lp cause it was skated rushed and he seemed focused on lost jumps, but there is a reason Plushy is who he is, not the quad etc, in the first jump that was finally a 3toe his landing and his total expression was like he landed the most difficult jump ever, if i had blinked there I would totally buy he landed a quad, lol! Afterwards he said he was replaying the program in his mind to figure what to add where, and he didnt do the flip cause it was supposed to go as sequence with axel, and he was anxious about adding the second axel combo cause he knew he could not win otherwise.
But I didnt see any panic on the body language about the lost quad and the 2axel, I was like :eek: and he was like
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what is he smoking?:laugh:

I watched also his gala, where he seems to skate the Lp with the new changes and choreo more clear ,whole program just without quads and spins, he just did 3 axels i think. New program seems too seductive for my taste:o, all i say is that I hope judges in Olys are female:p!(i kid) Anyhow, Go Plushy!:clap:

He also gave an interview somewhere which maybe someone can find again, I read many stuff, and he said that his next injection is on monday and this will go on until Olys (how many can he have?), that the 8th titlte is very important for him, he knows about inflated marks of nationals, but he uses the protocols for more insight like to see his levels and that he didnt get +Goe to some elements that need working a lot like spins, he said that he hates doctors and doesnt want to see them again, and on more humorus note some youngsters called him grandpa:unsure: and he looked like enjoying it!

And did you see Mishin and Moskvina skating together?:)THE highlight of nationals!

Now i have to catch up japan nationals!:biggrin:
 
Ok, I'm catching up after the wekend..
Yes, he seemed to be struggling throughout the whole LP and seemed to go back a couple of steps compared to COR indeed. But after the second footwork I was sold (as always). When other skaters do it, I'm like meah.. when he does that step sequence, I go "whoohaaa!". :laugh::laugh: He puts a smile on my face every time I watch him, no matter how empty the programme is. :thumbsup:
 
I thought Plushenko's take on the contenders was extremely entertaining. There's a translation on FSU, the highlights: Plushenko thinks that there isn't a clear leader and anyone can win. Joubert has good jumps, but his expression isn't as good as Lambiel's, who of course has no 3A. Takahashi is inconsistent and makes mistakes in competition, and my personal favorite: Lysacek's triple axel is done as a triple salchow. Heh heh :biggrin:.

I love Russian interviews. Much more interesting when people try to answer honestly. The Vasiliev interview (also on FSU) is priceless.
 
this is the whole interview,thanx Ximena for finding it and translation

if it is a script, too large text to memorize:eek:
Don't you think yout marks were too high?
- It was not just mine. It's the national championship, rather than an international competition. The important thing is that I could rate my performance. For example, I doing all the spins, I'm doing all what is required but I don't get any "plus". Judges can award plus one, plus two. And I have, probably, a plus 0. Thee is a lot of work to do before Europeans and Olympics Games which are what I returned for.

- If you can't win gold in Vancouver ...
- You know what is my only concern at the Games? To skate well. I'll be glad with any medal. Seriously. I have a friend, hockey player Alexei Zhamnov. He has three Olympic medals: gold, silver and bronze. When we met him, he said to me: "Zhenya, catch up!". So even a bronze in Vancouver it will be a very decent result.Although of course, I would like the gold.


- Who are your main competitors?
- They are a dozen! Anyone can be a champion, there isn't a clear leader.For example, Joubert has good jumps. But on feelings, expressions he loses to Lambiel. And him is very good in the techinical aspect and artistry, but his big problem is with the triple axel. Takahashi is the King of footwork, but after his surgery he has had difficulties with the quad jump. Even today in Japan, he won natioanals without it. I remember I skated with him in some exhibitions and he was great, nine shows and nine times he skated clean! But in competition, Daisuke often makes mistakes. Oda? He skates well, but I think he isn't ready yet, he is young. Lysacek? Yes he is the world champion. However, his triple axel is done as a triple salchow. In general anyone can win and everyone can lose.

What is the reaction to your return overseas?
- Strangely enough, it is better than in Russia. At home my attempt to return was often perceived negatively. And abroad, I've got some sidelong glances of young ones that says "Grandpa, what are you here for?". But do I need to pay attention to this?


- Were you surprised that Lambiel also returned?
- No. I was even willing to bet money that he would return. I almost did the bet with Ari Zakarian.


- Two consecutive world championships were won without a quad jump. Why do force your knees for it then? Do you need it? Just because of the record?
- Not just because of that. Maybe it sounds a bit snobbish, but I think that I should move skating forwards. I can not imagine my performance any other way. And the fact that my knees hurt ... Yes, on monday I'll get a new injection. I can no longer wbe without them. It's a terrible procedure, I'm so tired of doctors, and the pain, and then it will come back in a week and a half., but there's no other choice. For the Olympic Games. I'll do everything.
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Oh you have so many to look at for pretty skating, why bother with Plush?Strangely enough, you root for certain skater, which is confusing. Is he taking the sport forward or his skating is beautiful?

It is one thing to be honest and another to be rude. If chan (or you) cant see the difference :p In any case he considers these skaters olympic gold contenders.

Plush has said first he backs up on his TEs and not his "artistry", so yes, I think he knows he cant match Abbot or Chan, why people think skaters are idiots out of this world and we are more clever skating wise? We always know better.
As for salcow, this was new information, I m trying still to imagine how he looks the take off as salcow, but if the master says it, I believe him:biggrin:

I m waiting for santa claus:)
 
seniorita said:
Oh you have so many to look at for pretty skating, why bother with Plush?Strangely enough, you root for certain skater, which is confusing. Is he taking the sport forward or his skating is beautiful?

It is one thing to be honest and another to be rude. If chan (or you) cant see the difference :p In any case he considers these skaters olympic gold contenders.

Plush has said first he backs up on his TEs and not his "artistry", so yes, I think he knows he cant match Abbot or Chan, why people think skaters are idiots out of this world and we are more clever skating wise? We always know better.
As for salcow, this was new information, I m trying still to imagine how he looks the take off as salcow, but if the master says it, I believe him:biggrin:

I m waiting for santa claus:)
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Do other skaters show us the infamous "squatspin" and then claim to be taking the sport forward? :)

Looking at Natls it was not surprising they called him "grandpa." It looked more like Plushy was trying to get back to his 2006 level at Torino. :yes:

Where were all these mysterious new jumps he and Mishin talk about? Just more "honesty" - or more like a fairytale? ;)

Good luck Plushy, keep healthy - both your body and your imagination :)
 
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seniorita said:
Oh you have so many to look at for pretty skating, why bother with Plush?Strangely enough, you root for certain skater, which is confusing. Is he taking the sport forward or his skating is beautiful?

It is one thing to be honest and another to be rude. If chan (or you) cant see the difference :p In any case he considers these skaters olympic gold contenders.

Plush has said first he backs up on his TEs and not his "artistry", so yes, I think he knows he cant match Abbot or Chan, why people think skaters are idiots out of this world and we are more clever skating wise? We always know better.
As for salcow, this was new information, I m trying still to imagine how he looks the take off as salcow, but if the master says it, I believe him:biggrin:

I m waiting for santa claus:)
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Seniorita chill, chill.. Look, to make you smile, I've changed my dream podium banner.. :laugh::laugh:
I'm really starting to get the Plushy fever, seeing him compete again.. Oh, it's like being back to post-2002 (after my Yags fever died down).. I think I'll feel a big void after this season is over and we move on to the next era of figure skating..
Btw, it was never claimed Chan-man was dishonest.. Just childish or stupid enough to look down on a serious contender that might potentially kick his **s. :laugh:
 
this is ridiculous...
chan , abbot have better artistry?? since when?
can you imagine them skating to .. for example nijinsky?

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it would be comical :rofl:
well i can imagine their skate to gladiator ;) :yes:
i ve been in so much fs forums,lots of people complain about plushy, it looks like they cannot aprecite someone is full package : jumps and artistry (i agree plush doesn't have a good spins) so they made up theory .. just jumps with lack of artistry, and all haters took it as a good thing

yeah...eat me alive :rolleye:
i m so impressed hes here, now ...and bring all things back, bunch of good solid jumps, artistry and power :biggrin:


GO PLUSHY :biggrin:
 
lubov27 said:
this is ridiculous...
chan , abbot have better artistry?? since when?
can you imagine them skating to .. for example nijinsky?

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it would be comical :rofl:
well i can imagine their skate to gladiator ;) :yes:
i ve been in so much fs forums,lots of people complain about plushy, it looks like they cannot aprecite someone is full package : jumps and artistry (i agree plush doesn't have a good spins) so they made up theory .. just jumps with lack of artistry, and all haters took it as a good thing

yeah...eat me alive :rolleye:
i m so impressed hes here, now ...and bring all things back, bunch of good solid jumps, artistry and power :biggrin:

GO PLUSHY :biggrin:
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I commented about Plushy's continued trash talk against the other skaters.

We just saw him at Natls and despite his claim to be "the future of skating" I saw nothing like that. Did I miss this new futuristic skating?

I like Plushy and respect that he has won so many medals and titles.
But I think some of what we hear from Camp Mishin is a fairytale (polite word for it :laugh:) as this guy barely got through his programs.

We saw none of his "new jumps of the future" but despite that he still found time to insult the World Champion and other skaters again.

Some love his "Russian honesty" but many of us know all about this type of honesty. We see it whenever we walk through the cow pasture ;)

Good luck and good training Plushy. Please be healthy and strong. And keep talking as it helps the other skaters train harder and harder.
 
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janetfan said:
Looking at Natls it was not surprising they called him "grandpa." It looked more like Plushy was trying to get back to his 2006 level at Torino. :yes:
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The last a few years, skating has gone backwards year after year, don't you think? The last year Worlds was the lowest point since 2006 Olympics. Skating has to go back to 2006 level before it can move onto higher level.

(To mark my post in case the thread is shrinking again.;) My is 2047:biggrin:)
 
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jennylovskt said:
The last a few years, skating has gone backwards year after year, don't you think? Skating has to go back to 2006 level before it can move on higher level.

(To mark my post in case the thread is shrinking again.;) My is 2047:biggrin:)
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I am not so sure about this "backwards" or "higher level" situation.

Isn't part of what we see in skating today a result of the new scoring system which is still changing and evolving?

I recall hearing that when CoP was being formulated they used Tim Goebel, the "Quad King" as a measuring stick for balancing Tes and Pcs.

Is it also true that after the disappointing men's show in Torino that ISU felt a need to adjust CoP more?

So today we are looking at a skating world where many think Quads are not given enough credit and points. Why do you suppose that is? What lead ISU to consider there is more to men's skating than the Quad jump?

It is difficult to balance the aspects of technical skating and artistic skating under CoP. Many think Quads do not get enough points. Others feel than Jeremy's skating is not rewarded enough.

As to the future of skating I think the fan base will continue to shrink if skating caters only to the taste of screaming girls. I think the future of Men's skating is closer to Jeremy,Tomas and Dai - and the way they can show big jumps with such superior artistry.

Look for Rippon and Brezina to lead the way. And other young skaters on their way up.

I think the day's of Joubert and Plushy will be left behind as skaters need to show more than a few big jumps to keep a growing and diversified fan base.

Another poster mentioned Plushy and Nijinsky. I must have missed that part last weekend .;)
 
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Dear Senorita. Evgeni will never be the kind of champion I prefer, but he is the perfect example of a Champion CoP skater. He is more than adequate at the spins and footwork although he is not the best at those elements. However, the most ponts lie in the Jumps and he is so far ahead of his competitors in that branch of the CoP, I can't imagine him not winning any comp he enters.i
 
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