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What I don't understand is her 3-3 garnering that much points. The ISU judging panel would not do the same.
She got negative GOE on it...
What I don't understand is her 3-3 garnering that much points. The ISU judging panel would not do the same.
You are forgetting that even if Mirai's jumps were not under rotated Rachael would have won. The base value of Rachael's program was higher. Rachael beat Mirai by 12 points. In fact Ashley beat Mirai in the free skate.
The fact that NBC did not show slow motion does not mean the technical panel did not review the jumps.
She got negative GOE on it...
I feel like figure skating is losing the free program. It's not so free anymore.
ITA. The short program has become the free program. At least in the short programs there is some attempt at doing something other than skating from one scored element to the next.
I miss seeing original programs. I miss creativity. I miss seeing what skaters put together with choeographers. It just seems like, we are seeing almost the same programs with diffrent themes, and that technical merit rules over artistry. Yes a skater should be able to perform the difficult jumps and spins but that's not what skating is all about.
If there is a dispute here in the score of the top three we needed to see who was deducted where and why. Where did Flatt have deductions? Where did Nagasu have deductions? Where and why does this land them on which step of the podium?
After watching both Flatt and Nagasu, I know that I got caught up in Mirai performance more and that is why I wish she had won the competition.
How far off would Mirai's base value have been if she hadn't gotten downgrades? Not 12 points, I assume.. Of course the jumps were reviewed even if we didn't get to see it, but the fact that NBC neglected to show it to us is what is causing people to question the downgrades..
Three judges did not give her -GOE on it, and the ones that did only gave her -1 GOE.
How far off would Mirai's base value have been if she hadn't gotten downgrades? Not 12 points, I assume.. Of course the jumps were reviewed even if we didn't get to see it, but the fact that NBC neglected to show it to us is what is causing people to question the downgrades..
Three judges did not give her -GOE on it, and the ones that did only gave her -1 GOE.
It seems that the most inconsistent people are the ones here on this forum who, for months and months and months and months going back to the Kimmie Meissner era, complained that this skater or that skater was overscored because she underrotated her jumps or flutzed this jump or that jump and weren't downgraded for this or that "cheat" or her jumps and so on and so forth, and this went on and on and it was always the skater this or that poster didn't like to begin with that should have been penalized for this or that.!!
And now some of you same people are wailing and whining about YOUR preferred skater being downgraded for underrotating or flutzing or poor edges and this or that because the judges are paying more attention to detail and they still can't do anything right in your eyes!!
You can't have it both ways, people. Grow up.
As far as connecting with the audience and artistry is concerned, I thought that Rachael had that. The fact that she is not so thin that I suspect anorexia for Sasha and Mirai and she doesn't look like a "porcelain doll" as Mr Button says of Sasha does not mean she is not artistic. I used to complain that Rachael had no artistry or style, but that has changed over the past year or so. Yes her style is more “Broadway” than “Ballet” but she was very entertaining and certainly connected with the audience.
Really?!! Are you joking me?!! Rachel Flatt won over Mirai Nagasu by like a hefty 20 points?!! This competition is so rigged.
I was also surprised that Flatt won, but after looking at the reason behind it I now realize that she indeed won fairly. It puts me in the mind of Tara and Michelle at the Olympics. Michelle skated beautifully but Tara had harder content and skated with a lot of speed and joy
I was also surprised that Flatt won, but after looking at the reason behind it I now realize that she indeed won fairly. It puts me in the mind of Tara and Michelle at the Olympics. Michelle skated beautifully but Tara had harder content and skated with a lot of speed and joy
I think that if Tara and Michelle had been judged by COP standards, Michelle would have won easily. Tara flutzed and may have underrotated one of her 3-3s. Her spirals were very weak. Her PCS would have been well behind Michelle's.