"Sasha Cohen expects US figure skaters to flop in Vancouver"

[DesertRoad]

I agree with Sasha's assessment, the US ladies are set to flop at these Olympics barring some miracle. We're set to have a ladies podium completely free of Americans. If this were to occur, it'd be the first time since 1964 that no US lady managed to make it on the podium at the Olympics, and that was after Flight 548. You can try to spin it however you want, but it'd be a flop.

 

[skatemom1122]

The ladies might not be the strongest, but the this is one of the strongest men's teams we have ever set to the Games. And also, who would have thought that we would have not one, but TWO medal threat dance teams. Even in pairs, Denney and Barrett are the strongest technically the US has had in a while. Although the dominance of our US women has ceased, we have very strong medal chances in men and dance.

 

[katymay]

Sashau

Actually, I can envision a scenario whereby Mirai is at least third in the short program. Mao and Yuna are susceptible to nerves, and if Mirai skates as well in the Olympics (short program) as she did in Nationals-who knows? Often the skater that has nothing to lose skates the best.
As far as Sasha is concerned, she will do anything to keep her name in the public eye. She is a wonderful show skater, does some wonderful things on the ice, but without the jumps.....

 

[Mathman]

Rachael could make the podium! She is living a normal life, catching up on her studies, while everyone else is worrying themselves to a frazzle. :yes:

 

[miki88]

Rachael could make the podium! She is living a normal life, catching up on her studies, while everyone else is worrying themselves to a frazzle. :yes:

I don't think she would be doing that if she were expected to bring home one though~~~~~~~^^

 

[Bennett]

I read that Mirai said that she'd be happy if she could be on the podium with Mao (when asked what she thought about competing with the Japanese team).
In japanese
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20100214-00000006-maip-spo

 

[janetfan]

Rachael could make the podium! She is living a normal life, catching up on her studies, while everyone else is worrying themselves to a frazzle. :yes:

Studying is great - but maybe the other girls are practicing and working on their posture instead of being hunched over a book a week before the biggest competition of their lives.
For Rachael to win a medal it seems we would have to see a bad competition full of mistakes.

I would rather see the best skaters perform well and if that means Rachael only finished 5-8 so be it.
If the judging has any semblance of fairness I would not be surprised if Mirai finished ahead of Rachael.

 

[Tonichelle]

^^^
That I didn't know, and it sounds much better than what was printed before.

that's why you shouldn't just believe what is said on teh boards and should read the article (ignoring the author's stupid slant)... this is true of any news article.

 

[MKFSfan]

I understand Sasha was asked a question and gave an honest answer, an assessment most of us agree with. I think Sasha could have been more diplomatic, even if she just repeated what she said at Nationals about them being good skaters and excited to compete, and left out the not up to par thoughts. What I feel is ironic is Sasha was in the same shoes back in 2002, young, very little International exposure, and she felt she was capable of winning at those Games. IIRC, she had admitted her original goal was to "win in 2002 and retire like Tara did." While there were many hyping up an American sweep of the podium, most of those in the know didn't think Sasha would break through at those Games and thought 4th (3rd in SP) was a very, very good result. SO, my point is, Mirai and Rachel are in the same skates Sasha was back in 2002. Granted, in 2002, there were probably 4 or 5 serious podium contenders ahead of Sasha, while there are 6-7 considered ahead of the Amerian Ladies. But if one can reach the Final Flight, I think that is a great result, and certainly an attainable one. If one podiums, or is 4th, I think that would be fantastic! I do believe this could be a breakout competition for them, much like 2002 was for Sasha, and vault them into the next Olympic cycle. We'll see! :agree:

 

[Mathman]

If the judging has any semblance of fairness I would not be surprised if Mirai finished ahead of Rachael.

I would not be surprised either. It is, however, not the judges that Mirai has to worry about, but rather the technical specialist. Both at Nationals and internationally the tech callers have consistently dinged Mirai for short jump landings.

I am no expert -- far from it -- but from the videos I have looked at, it appears that the problem is that she reaches down for the ice with her toe-pick before completing the rotation, then she gets caught for underrotation. Skaters with more solid technique seem to be able to let the ice come up to meet them, or something like that (?)

Anyway, I don't think it needs to be splat-fest for one of the American girls to end up in podium contention. Nobody will skate perfectly. All Mirai and Rachael have to do is -- plan your skate, skate your plan. If you finish eighth -- hey, you are top ten in the world at something. (I wish I were. )

 

[Tinymavy15]

Studying is great - but maybe the other girls are practicing and working on their posture instead of being hunched over a book a week before the biggest competition of their lives.
For Rachael to win a medal it seems we would have to see a bad competition full of mistakes.

I would rather see the best skaters perform well and if that means Rachael only finished 5-8 so be it.
If the judging has any semblance of fairness I would not be surprised if Mirai finished ahead of Rachael.

I am begining to think that Racheal return to Colorado is for her skating as much as her studies. Official practices for the ladies don't start for a while yet, and finding sufficient time to train on ice my be difficult in Vancouver. Sure there are rinks in the area, but with dozens of top skaters descending on the area finding quiet ice time can't be easy. At least she showed up for opening ceremonies unlike the asian girls.

 

[dewey]

The link at the beginning takes you to to a snippet taken from her interview with People. The writer at the link is picking and choosing her words, then twisting them to be more inflammatory than they really were.

http://http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20342694,00.html

I disagree with Sasha that the US girls are "hit or miss", and I think they have more international experience than she gives them credit for, but the person who swiped her quotes and posted them on the UK site is just a jerk.

 

[Mrs. P]

I am begining to think that Racheal return to Colorado is for her skating as much as her studies. Official practices for the ladies don't start for a while yet, and finding sufficient time to train on ice my be difficult in Vancouver. Sure there are rinks in the area, but with dozens of top skaters descending on the area finding quiet ice time can't be easy. At least she showed up for opening ceremonies unlike the asian girls.

I agree.

Did anyone catch Liz Manley's comments during the Figure Skating Review on Universal Sports this morning? She mentioned that one thing that really helped her in the Olympics was the ability to go home after the Opening Ceremonies and return before the ladies competition. She noted that she had great benefit from "sleeping in her own bed" and "keeping her regular training routine."

So perhaps this will benefit Mirai and Rachael as well.

 

[mskater93]

I am no expert -- far from it -- but from the videos I have looked at, it appears that the problem is that she reaches down for the ice with her toe-pick before completing the rotation, then she gets caught for underrotation. Skaters with more solid technique seem to be able to let the ice come up to meet them, or something like that (?)

That's a very good assessment of Nagasu's under-rotation issues. The interesting thing related to it is that one of my coaches worked with Frank C for a while and Frank's jumping philosophy is that you let the ice come up to meet your skate as opposed to reaching for the skate with your skating foot. So, Frank and Mirai are a good match once she gets this concept. I know this about his philosophy since my coach keeps coming back to it with me when I don't let things float. He's trying to get me to finish jumps as if I were "opening a parachute" (again, something he learned in CA).