Starting Orders for Men.

[wallylutz]

5 CiSt3 3.30 1.14 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 4.44

Haven't seen the program yet, but how do you explain the score?

I don't agree with it. I'd personally go for a +1 but no more.

 

[Lily.Grace]

I'm very anxious, too. My heart sank to my stomach when I saw how low his score was. He's already in a dark place emotionally, so I can't imagine how he must be feeling right now.

What's up with him, I mean emotionally?

 

[wallylutz]

5 CiSt3 3.30 1.14 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 4.44

Haven't seen the program yet, but how do you explain the score?

See his TEB SP score: http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpfra2010/

Same step sequence but scoring mostly if not all 1. He finished 2nd in the SP only to Kozuka. What justified the same element suddenly getting all 2 and some 3s, I am not sure. Did he really skate that much better? I don't think so.

 

[snowflake]

I'm very anxious, too. My heart sank to my stomach when I saw how low his score was. He's already in a dark place emotionally, so I can't imagine how he must be feeling right now.

Yes, he doesn't seem to have much self confidence right now. But he chose to go for the quad, so... win or loose. Now the women around him have a big job to raise him up :think:

I wish you a fabolous skate tomorrow Adrian :yay:

 

[seniorita]

Amodio did get the edge call.

yes, sorry, I rushed
Strange competition , a bit toned down, but the top are new generation so there is hope

needless to say Euromen will be buttered at worlds

I love Swedish men, both! and KVDP, they just dont give up! It was Bertsson´s 11 th time at euros!

I was expecting Fernandez to have a progress by now but he isnt.

Liebers was the best skate for me, judges should notice him!

 

[siberia82]

What's up with him, I mean emotionally?

You can read about it here: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?33561-Adrian-Schultheiss-is-uncertain-about-his-future-in-figure-skating He's been feeling depressed for a while now and is considering quitting the sport.

 

[Lily.Grace]

You can read about it here: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?33561-Adrian-Schultheiss-is-uncertain-about-his-future-in-figure-skating He's been feeling depressed for a while now and is considering quitting the sport.

Thank you very much. Oh that's very sad, sorry to hear that

 

[Kinga]

I would have Brzezina 1st. But apparantly being a GP finalist helped big time (not that I think Amodio did poorly, but I would have him 2nd).

 

[snowflake]

Liebers was the best skate for me, judges should notice him!

Yes, he should have more points for skating skills and performance/IN. E.g. compared to Joubert he had 1.4 lower in SS. And the same or lower in performance and interpretation ... Overall 7.32 lower in PCS than Joubert. Liebers was one that stood out for me too

 

[siberia82]

Wow, was it really that bad, the program I liked so much

I enjoyed Amodio's performance as well. I'm not very good with the techinical aspects of skating, so there may be weaknesses that I can't see, but I know what I like.

Now the women around him have a big job to raise him up :think:

I think the guy also needs a big hug from his fans. (((Adrian)))

I wish you a fabolous skate tomorrow Adrian :yay:

I do, too.

It was Bertsson´s 11 th time at euros!

Actually, it's his 12th. I believe he's the oldest competitor in this event (KVDP is a month younger). It's a shame that Koffe didn't land the 3A properly, and his 3T was UR. Still, his SP is very beautiful, and he always brings out the best in his choreography.

 

[zandor]

Liebers was the best skate for me, judges should notice him!

ITA!

Plus, he looks hot!

 

[lavender]

I'm very anxious, too. My heart sank to my stomach when I saw how low his score was. He's already in a dark place emotionally, so I can't imagine how he must be feeling right now.

I know siberia82 I thought of ya when I saw his score and placement. I can only hope that his new team is giving him the support he clearly needs.

 

[seniorita]

Actually, it's his 12th. I believe he's the oldest competitor in this event (KVDP is a month younger). It's a shame that Koffe didn't land the 3A properly, and his 3T was UR. Still, his SP is very beautiful, and he always brings out the best in his choreography.

really> ? I heard it from eurosport guys.
his sp is awesome yes

 

[Jaana]

I enjoyed following programmes most:

Amodio
Brezina
Verner
Liebers (he was definetely robbed in PCS, IMO)

 

[siberia82]

really> ? I heard it from eurosport guys.

I'm a Koffeholic, trust me, it's 12. :yes:

1. 2000
2. 2001
3. 2002
4. 2003
5. 2004
6. 2005
7. 2006
8. 2007
9. 2008
10. 2009
11. 2010
12. 2011

 

[snowflake]

^

Right, and he is a big forerunner(is that a correct word?) for modern male Swedish figure skating

 

[lavender]

I have to check out this Lieber guy.

 

[ivy]

It's not often that I get to see so many short programs, but the timing and finding a good feed just worked out. It reminded me how capricious judging still is. I feel Gachinshki and Joubert were given presents in the PCS, Liebers and Schultheiss held down. And Gachinski's quad combo got the exact same score as KVDP's - which seemed much tighter and cleaner. Oh well - on to the long

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

1 Q Florent AMODIO FRA 78.11 40.75 37.36 7.32 7.04 7.61 7.64 7.75 0.00 #27
2 Q Michal BREZINA CZE 76.13 39.64 36.49 7.36 6.96 7.39 7.39 7.39 0.00 #23
3 Q Artur GACHINSKI RUS 73.76 39.00 34.76 7.14 6.43 7.11 7.04 7.04 0.00 #22
4 Q Kevin VAN DER PERREN BEL 73.61 39.65 33.96 6.89 6.43 6.96 6.82 6.86 0.00 #20
5 Q Tomas VERNER CZE 72.91 36.38 37.53 7.46 7.14 7.54 7.64 7.75 1.00 #21
6 Q Samuel CONTESTI ITA 72.78 36.57 36.21 6.93 6.82 7.36 7.39 7.71 0.00 #24
7 Q Brian JOUBERT FRA 70.44 34.90 36.54 7.43 6.86 7.32 7.39 7.54 1.00 #17
8 Q Kristoffer BERNTSSON SWE 66.62 33.05 33.57 6.46 6.36 6.75 6.96 7.04 0.00 #18
9 Q Peter LIEBERS GER 64.53 35.31 29.22 6.04 5.54 5.89 5.93 5.82 0.00 #16
10 Q Alban PREAUBERT FRA 63.77 32.33 32.44 6.50 6.29 6.43 6.68 6.54 1.00 #26
11 Q Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 60.48 32.00 31.48 6.11 5.93 6.29 6.61 6.54 3.00 #19
12 Q Paolo BACCHINI ITA 59.39 30.92 29.47 5.79 5.39 5.89 6.11 6.29 1.00 #15
13 Q Jorik HENDRICKX BEL 59.14 31.77 27.37 5.61 5.11 5.61 5.50 5.54 0.00 #4
14 Q Konstantin MENSHOV RUS 58.82 29.15 29.67 6.07 5.68 5.89 5.96 6.07 0.00 #12
15 Q Adrian SCHULTHEISS SWE 58.36 28.07 31.29 6.43 6.04 6.32 6.32 6.18 1.00 #28
16 Q Laurent ALVAREZ SUI 56.64 31.89 24.75 5.14 4.61 5.04 4.96 5.00 0.00 #10
17 Q Viktor PFEIFER AUT 55.70 29.10 26.60 5.43 4.82 5.39 5.46 5.50 0.00 #5
18 Q Maxim SHIPOV ISR 53.99 32.42 21.57 4.57 3.96 4.36 4.36 4.32 0.00 #2
19 Q Anton KOVALEVSKI UKR 53.47 23.65 29.82 5.96 5.57 6.04 6.11 6.14 0.00 #25
20 Q Kim LUCINE MON 52.56 27.49 25.07 5.11 4.71 5.00 5.07 5.18 0.00 #8
21 Q Javier RAYA ESP 51.98 26.12 26.86 5.36 5.07 5.39 5.54 5.50 1.00 #13
22 Q Denis WIECZOREK GER 50.62 26.37 24.25 5.11 4.57 4.82 4.89 4.86 0.00 #14
23 Q Zoltan KELEMEN ROU 50.38 27.63 22.75 4.82 4.29 4.64 4.50 4.50 0.00 #9
24 Q Stephane WALKER SUI 49.74 24.35 25.39 5.14 4.75 5.18 5.14 5.18 0.00 #11
25 Maciej CIEPLUCHA POL 49.33 24.83 24.50 4.96 4.54 4.89 5.00 5.11 0.00 #7
26 Moris PFEIFHOFER SUI 46.93 22.75 25.18 5.14 4.61 5.14 5.11 5.18 1.00 #6
27 Ali DEMIRBOGA TUR 42.09 22.12 19.97 4.07 3.64 4.11 4.11 4.04 0.00 #3
28 Justus STRID DEN 41.84 19.63 22.21 4.43 4.14 4.57 4.46 4.61 0.00 #1

Nice to see the two best Men in Europe placing 1st and 2nd. I presume Brezina is completely healed from his injuries.
I haven't seen the comp, but I would like to see if Gachinsky improved so much.
v.d.Perren usually does better at Euros than GPs and Worlds. He is often underscored.
Verner is almost 4 points behind his teamate and 5 points behind the leader. He has some catching up to do.
Contesti is still in the game as much as Verner is.
Is the sunsetting on Joubert's career? I hope he begins to show the old fighter he once was.
Sunsetting on Berntsson.
finally Liebers is getting some acknowledgement. He's a lot better than what judges have been giving him before.
What happened to Preaubert?
Fernandez should leave Morozov who was just using him for experimentation. He could go to Orso.

 

[blue_idealist]

Nice to see the two best Men in Europe placing 1st and 2nd. I presume Brezina is completely healed from his injuries.
I haven't seen the comp, but I would like to see if Gachinsky improved so much.
v.d.Perren usually does better at Euros than GPs and Worlds. He is often underscored.
Verner is almost 4 points behind his teamate and 5 points behind the leader. He has some catching up to do.
Contesti is still in the game as much as Verner is.
Is the sunsetting on Joubert's career? I hope he begins to show the old fighter he once was.
Sunsetting on Berntsson.
finally Liebers is getting some acknowledgement. He's a lot better than what judges have been giving him before.
What happened to Preaubert?
Fernandez should leave Morozov who was just using him for experimentation. He could go to Orso.

Preaubert wiped out badly on a 3Loop, after doing a 3-3 and 3A cleanly.