Mens SP
- Thread starter Nadine
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- Nov 7, 2007
Gonna be close between Oda & Artur, would hate to call this one, but I think they'll give it to Oda.
Doubt it. Oda had no quad.
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- Oct 31, 2006
Low spin levels perhaps.
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you are a better student than I am ... I have an exam/project that starts in 4 hours, but I couldn't myself drag away (I meant to just peek in on short dance)
Best wishes for your exaam
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- Oct 31, 2006
According to the protocols, Oda was given a wrong edge call for flutzing and he only received a Level 1 on one of his spins.
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- Nov 7, 2007
Yep, I have a feeling that Oda's going to get the boot. Kozuka is the reigning world silver medalist, Hanyu is the Future after Kozuka and Takahashi sells the tickets and draws in the viewers (not to mention, he's also a former world champion and reigning Olympic medalist).
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- Oct 31, 2006
Jeremy could have finished in 1st if he had performed his 3flip+3toe and 3Lutz with the same vigor that he did his 3Axel. He only received a +.10 on his jump combination and received -.10 on the Lutz. He got +1.43 on the 3Axel! That's a lot of +GOE that he lost out on for the other jump passes though.
Protocals:
Artur: Just one -1 on his 4T-3T combo from one judge. Second in PCS (which is wrong, imo) He would have scored higher if not for the level one spin.
Yuzuru: -GOE on the 3T, clearly what made the difference between 1st and second. He also got a level 2 on a spin.
Jeremy: Nice +1.43 on his 3A -- slight (just .1) negative GOE on the Lutz, which was expected Otherwise solid! highest PCS of the night (should be slightly higher--he should be in the 8s, but he's been away, relatively speaking so I guess I can understand..)
Oda - edge call on the Lutz? level 1 on the combo spin And a whopping 2.14 GOE for his 3A (ammazing!)
Nan - all positive GOE, level 4 on everything except step sequence (level 2)
Jialiang - -GOE on 3LO and camel spin.
Kevin -- No DG (despite what they said) but two UR on the 4S in the combo and the 3A. Edge call the lutz. level 2 spin.
Richard -- He actually scored the best on the non jump elements (he scored level 4 on all the spins and level 3 on the step sequence +GOE = 15.21 points, even ahead of Jeremy with 15.06) The mistakes on the first two jumping passes, obviously got negative GOE.
Artur: Just one -1 on his 4T-3T combo from one judge. Second in PCS (which is wrong, imo) He would have scored higher if not for the level one spin.
Yuzuru: -GOE on the 3T, clearly what made the difference between 1st and second. He also got a level 2 on a spin.
Jeremy: Nice +1.43 on his 3A -- slight (just .1) negative GOE on the Lutz, which was expected Otherwise solid! highest PCS of the night (should be slightly higher--he should be in the 8s, but he's been away, relatively speaking so I guess I can understand..)
Oda - edge call on the Lutz? level 1 on the combo spin And a whopping 2.14 GOE for his 3A (ammazing!)
Nan - all positive GOE, level 4 on everything except step sequence (level 2)
Jialiang - -GOE on 3LO and camel spin.
Kevin -- No DG (despite what they said) but two UR on the 4S in the combo and the 3A. Edge call the lutz. level 2 spin.
Richard -- He actually scored the best on the non jump elements (he scored level 4 on all the spins and level 3 on the step sequence +GOE = 15.21 points, even ahead of Jeremy with 15.06) The mistakes on the first two jumping passes, obviously got negative GOE.
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- Mar 21, 2005
Amazing men's SP! Does Artur deserve those PCS scores???? Transitions???
Kudos to him for landing the quad triple!
Kudos to him for landing the quad triple!
Just for fun...
Jumps:
Artur: 31.42 (4T-3T. 3A. 3L)
Yuzuru: 30.16 (4T, 3A, 3Z-3T)
Nan: 27.58 (4T-2T. 3A. 3Z)
Nobunari: 26.94 (3A, 3F-3T, 3Z (e))
Jialiang: 25.34 (3Z-3T, 3L, 3A)
Jeremy: 25.33 (3F-3T, 3A, 3Z)
Kevin: 19.04 (4S<3T, 3A<, 3Z)
Richard: 16.29 (3Z+Combo, 3A, 3F)
Non Jump:
Richard: 15.21 (FCSp4, CSSp4, SISt3, CCOSp4)
Jeremy: 15.06 (CSSP4, FUSp4, SiSt3, CCoSP3)
Yuzuru: 14.77 (FCsp4, SiSt3, CSSp4, CCOsp2)
Nan: 13.80 (FCSp4; CSSp4; SiSt2t; CCoSp4)
Artur: 13.21 (CCOSp4, CSSp1, CiST3, FCSp3)
Nobunari: 12.74 (FCSp4; SiSt; CSSp4; CCOSp1)
Reynolds: 12.32 (FUSp3, CCSp2, SiSt3, CCOSp3)
Jialiang: 12.01 (FCSp3, SiSt3, CSSp3; CCoSp4)
PCS breakdown
Skating Skills
Nobunari: 7.89
Jeremy: 7.71
Artur: 7.43
Yuzuru: 7.43
Reynolds: 6.68
Richard: 6.71
Nan:6.39
Jialiang: 5.89
Transitions:
Jeremy: 7.68
Nobunari: 7.61
Gachiniski: 7.54
Yuzuru: 7.43
Reynolds: 6.46
Richard: 6.29
Nan: 5.96
Jialiang: 5.32
Performance/Execution
Jeremy: 7.68
Nobunari: 7.61
Artur: 7.54
Yuzuru: 7.43
Reynolds: 6.46
Nan: 6.46
Richard: 6.18
Jialiang: 5.57
Choreography
Jeremy: 7.82
Nobunari: 7.54
Artur: 7.46
Yuzuru: 7.18
Reynolds: 6.64
Richard: 6.61
Nan: 6.21
Jialiang: 5.50
Interpretation
Jeremy: 8.04 (the only 8 for the night)
Nobunari: 7.61
Artur: 7.54
Yuzuru: 7.36
Reynolds: 6.71
Richard: 6.64
Nan: 6.32
Jialiang 5.43
Highest PCS mark (single judge)
Jeremy: 8.5 (one judge in interpretation)
Yuzuru: 8.25 (one judge in performance, execution)
Nobunari: 8 (five judges in skating skills, two judges in interpretation)
Artur: 8 (two judges in Skating skills, three judges in Performance/Execution, one judge in Choreography)
Kevin: 7.75 (one judge in choreography and one judge in interpretation)
Richard: 7.25 (one judge in skating skills, one judge in choreography)
Nan: 7.25 (one judge in performance/execution)
Jialiang: 6.5 (one judge in skating skills)
Lowest PCS mark (single judge)
Jeremy: 7.25 (two judges in transitions, one judge in performance execution)
Nobunari: 6.75 (two judges in transitions, one judge in choreography)
Yuzuru: 6.75 (three judges in transitions, one judge in choreography and one judge in interpretation)
Artur: 6.0 (one judge in interpretation; this judge scored him low overall)
Kevin: 5.75 (one judge in skating skills; one judge in transitions; one judge in performance)
Richard: 5.75 (three judges in performance; one judge in choreography)
Nan: 5.25 (one judge in transitions)
Jialiang: 4.50 (one judge in choreography, one judge in interpretation)
Jumps:
Artur: 31.42 (4T-3T. 3A. 3L)
Yuzuru: 30.16 (4T, 3A, 3Z-3T)
Nan: 27.58 (4T-2T. 3A. 3Z)
Nobunari: 26.94 (3A, 3F-3T, 3Z (e))
Jialiang: 25.34 (3Z-3T, 3L, 3A)
Jeremy: 25.33 (3F-3T, 3A, 3Z)
Kevin: 19.04 (4S<3T, 3A<, 3Z)
Richard: 16.29 (3Z+Combo, 3A, 3F)
Non Jump:
Richard: 15.21 (FCSp4, CSSp4, SISt3, CCOSp4)
Jeremy: 15.06 (CSSP4, FUSp4, SiSt3, CCoSP3)
Yuzuru: 14.77 (FCsp4, SiSt3, CSSp4, CCOsp2)
Nan: 13.80 (FCSp4; CSSp4; SiSt2t; CCoSp4)
Artur: 13.21 (CCOSp4, CSSp1, CiST3, FCSp3)
Nobunari: 12.74 (FCSp4; SiSt; CSSp4; CCOSp1)
Reynolds: 12.32 (FUSp3, CCSp2, SiSt3, CCOSp3)
Jialiang: 12.01 (FCSp3, SiSt3, CSSp3; CCoSp4)
PCS breakdown
Skating Skills
Nobunari: 7.89
Jeremy: 7.71
Artur: 7.43
Yuzuru: 7.43
Reynolds: 6.68
Richard: 6.71
Nan:6.39
Jialiang: 5.89
Transitions:
Jeremy: 7.68
Nobunari: 7.61
Gachiniski: 7.54
Yuzuru: 7.43
Reynolds: 6.46
Richard: 6.29
Nan: 5.96
Jialiang: 5.32
Performance/Execution
Jeremy: 7.68
Nobunari: 7.61
Artur: 7.54
Yuzuru: 7.43
Reynolds: 6.46
Nan: 6.46
Richard: 6.18
Jialiang: 5.57
Choreography
Jeremy: 7.82
Nobunari: 7.54
Artur: 7.46
Yuzuru: 7.18
Reynolds: 6.64
Richard: 6.61
Nan: 6.21
Jialiang: 5.50
Interpretation
Jeremy: 8.04 (the only 8 for the night)
Nobunari: 7.61
Artur: 7.54
Yuzuru: 7.36
Reynolds: 6.71
Richard: 6.64
Nan: 6.32
Jialiang 5.43
Highest PCS mark (single judge)
Jeremy: 8.5 (one judge in interpretation)
Yuzuru: 8.25 (one judge in performance, execution)
Nobunari: 8 (five judges in skating skills, two judges in interpretation)
Artur: 8 (two judges in Skating skills, three judges in Performance/Execution, one judge in Choreography)
Kevin: 7.75 (one judge in choreography and one judge in interpretation)
Richard: 7.25 (one judge in skating skills, one judge in choreography)
Nan: 7.25 (one judge in performance/execution)
Jialiang: 6.5 (one judge in skating skills)
Lowest PCS mark (single judge)
Jeremy: 7.25 (two judges in transitions, one judge in performance execution)
Nobunari: 6.75 (two judges in transitions, one judge in choreography)
Yuzuru: 6.75 (three judges in transitions, one judge in choreography and one judge in interpretation)
Artur: 6.0 (one judge in interpretation; this judge scored him low overall)
Kevin: 5.75 (one judge in skating skills; one judge in transitions; one judge in performance)
Richard: 5.75 (three judges in performance; one judge in choreography)
Nan: 5.25 (one judge in transitions)
Jialiang: 4.50 (one judge in choreography, one judge in interpretation)
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- Aug 18, 2010
Thanks, Mrs.P! That was fast!
What a talent, Yuzuru! Born to be a skater! Even his backward crossovers were like Johnny Weir's. But he is so much better than Johnny on everything at his young age! His skating blew me away! I think at least his PE should have been higher than Abbott's if his total PCS was not.
I haven't warmed up with Jeremy's new SP yet. This is the second time I saw him perform this SP. Seemed to me that his speed was slower than usual. A bit axle shift in the air on his 3A, and a shaky 3Lz. However, he's got over 79 for the first time outting this season. That was great! So the judges aren't throwing him away. He has a chance to be very good this season!
Haven't had chance to see others yet.
What a talent, Yuzuru! Born to be a skater! Even his backward crossovers were like Johnny Weir's. But he is so much better than Johnny on everything at his young age! His skating blew me away! I think at least his PE should have been higher than Abbott's if his total PCS was not.
I haven't warmed up with Jeremy's new SP yet. This is the second time I saw him perform this SP. Seemed to me that his speed was slower than usual. A bit axle shift in the air on his 3A, and a shaky 3Lz. However, he's got over 79 for the first time outting this season. That was great! So the judges aren't throwing him away. He has a chance to be very good this season!
Haven't had chance to see others yet.
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- Sep 10, 2009
Yuzuru was underscored imo, mainly due to the lack of "authority". Still quite a good result for a teenboy. Go!
