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I was heartbroken for the Japanese ladies, most especially Mao. But at least Team Japan has Olympic Champion in Hanyu, who should dominate the next quad.
2014 Olympics Ladies Short Program
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I was heartbroken for the Japanese ladies, most especially Mao. But at least Team Japan has Olympic Champion in Hanyu, who should dominate the next quad.
Looking through the protocols:
You couldn't really fault Sotnikova as far as TES goes. Pretty much every single element she did was executed to a very high standard. Great height on the jumps and some very impressive positions on the spins. My only complain is about her GOE on the step sequence. It was pretty much completely off-time and her speed and flow were not great so I have no idea how +2s and +3s can be applicable.
But as far as her presentation goes, I still don't understand why her marks are that high. She doesn't have a good posture (slightly rounded shoulders and turtle neck) and her lines aren't good either (her movements aren't fully extended). And the choreography makes me scratch my head every time. Light and playful movement to "Carmen?" There was no Spanish character to her movement at all and her timing was off as well. So it just looked like the program was meant for a different piece of music altogether. High 8s and 9s for this? Based on what?
The number of +3s for Lipnitskaia's layback and combination spin make me very sad. The layback was off-centred a bit and the combination spin was massively off-centred first at the start and then again at the end. The judge who gave her +1 noticed and it seems he was the only one... +2s for her jump combo seems slightly generous as well. I'd go with +1.
Just so I am not nitpicking on Russian skaters only, +2s for Kostner's appalling layback are just
. Between the lack of stretch, the lack of speed and the travelling... Seriously.
I'd also like to know how is it possible to give -1 or -2 to Wagner's combo where she underrotates the second jump over 1/2 and lands it on two-feet. Her spins were probably the best executed I've seen from her this season but still, her GOE on them is overly generous (probably because the rest of her skating is so good so it's 'in line' with it).
Edmunds marks look slightly low-balled in comparison to higher ranked skaters. She wasn't great but it was a decent performance and had she skated later and had more of a rep, the exact same execution would have surely given her much higher scores. But then, that's stating the bloody obvious, I guess.
Meite's combination is a good example of how a skater's name can influence their scores, IMO. I thought it was extremely impressive. Very solid, very controlled and most importantly both jumps were huge. The second seemed almost higher than the first. Yet she got mostly +1s.
Osmond got TR as her lowest score again. Automaton judges not even looking at the programs...
Asada got off lightly on the 3flip, given it wasn't just cheated over 1/4 but there was also a long break after the steps.
On a different note, congrats to the Swedish Federation again for not sending Joshi.
This result was very expected to anyone who has watched Viktoria perform this season.
You couldn't really fault Sotnikova as far as TES goes. Pretty much every single element she did was executed to a very high standard. Great height on the jumps and some very impressive positions on the spins. My only complain is about her GOE on the step sequence. It was pretty much completely off-time and her speed and flow were not great so I have no idea how +2s and +3s can be applicable.
But as far as her presentation goes, I still don't understand why her marks are that high. She doesn't have a good posture (slightly rounded shoulders and turtle neck) and her lines aren't good either (her movements aren't fully extended). And the choreography makes me scratch my head every time. Light and playful movement to "Carmen?" There was no Spanish character to her movement at all and her timing was off as well. So it just looked like the program was meant for a different piece of music altogether. High 8s and 9s for this? Based on what?
The number of +3s for Lipnitskaia's layback and combination spin make me very sad. The layback was off-centred a bit and the combination spin was massively off-centred first at the start and then again at the end. The judge who gave her +1 noticed and it seems he was the only one... +2s for her jump combo seems slightly generous as well. I'd go with +1.
Just so I am not nitpicking on Russian skaters only, +2s for Kostner's appalling layback are just
. Between the lack of stretch, the lack of speed and the travelling... Seriously.I'd also like to know how is it possible to give -1 or -2 to Wagner's combo where she underrotates the second jump over 1/2 and lands it on two-feet. Her spins were probably the best executed I've seen from her this season but still, her GOE on them is overly generous (probably because the rest of her skating is so good so it's 'in line' with it).
Edmunds marks look slightly low-balled in comparison to higher ranked skaters. She wasn't great but it was a decent performance and had she skated later and had more of a rep, the exact same execution would have surely given her much higher scores. But then, that's stating the bloody obvious, I guess.
Meite's combination is a good example of how a skater's name can influence their scores, IMO. I thought it was extremely impressive. Very solid, very controlled and most importantly both jumps were huge. The second seemed almost higher than the first. Yet she got mostly +1s.
Osmond got TR as her lowest score again. Automaton judges not even looking at the programs...
Asada got off lightly on the 3flip, given it wasn't just cheated over 1/4 but there was also a long break after the steps.
On a different note, congrats to the Swedish Federation again for not sending Joshi.
This result was very expected to anyone who has watched Viktoria perform this season.even if she doesn't medal her it will not be the end of the world... many grat skater never won an Olympics, and some never medalled either (ie kurt browning)... I'm very sorry for her, but I wish with all of my heart that tomorrow she can bring it in the free and make it in the top ten... hell even in the top five (but then I would feel sorry for the girls that would have faltered for that happening) and then at worlds in japan, right in front of her people, skate the great skates that unfortunately she left behind in pracitce during the oympics...
Interesting thought! I think her scores would be much lower if Julia was clean, not super low but maybe 4th-5th place.
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ITA I'd give Yuna and Carolina lv4 on their steps. Adelina's spins are much better than both but her step sequence is... :scowl:
Adelina's 3T-3T deserves more than 1.6 GOE imo, though her 3F and PCS should've been lower. And again, her score for step sequence :disapp:
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Because L4 footwork requires something even MORE than L3 and needs to be rewarded
Now, I don't like that. Unnecessary and upsets audience comprehension with individual judging standards.
I'm so looking forwards to Hanyu's domination. His raw talent blew me away and literally made my jaw drop when I saw his Worlds 2012 performance.
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Osmond got TR as her lowest score again. Automaton judges not even looking at the programs...
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1) There were 7 technical elements, not 1. Adelina scored higher on most of them.
2) All the judges, including KOR, gave Adelina at least +2 on her flip.
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I still can't get over Mao
I also feel so bad about her...
There was a break between Kim's preceding steps and her flip. Sotnikova got more height (Kim's height was good as well).
I had +1 for Kim's 3F and +2 for Sotnikova's.
Sotnikova's triple flip was not higher, it was lower, and had an ugly entrance and landing like she almost never does on the jumps. I had Sotnikova at a 0 for the jump and Kim at a +2. Then again you are the same one so blind you think S&S deserved to win the SP over V&T.
I agree, and also, although Sotnikova's 3flip has height, Yu-na's has both height and distance.
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Well, think of this forum as courses of a French meal, then treat such trolls as an amuse-bouche you don't care for.
At the end of the day, you'd still have a great meal with a minor imperfection.
Do let the chef know once in a while though. There's a button for it.
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