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2014 Olympics Ladies Short Program

sowcow

On the Ice
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Tracy Wilson is not currently listed as a technical specialist by the ISU. In order to be an ISU judge in any discipline, you must attend a certain amount of seminars, judge competitions, take and pass exams that are given routinely in order to keep your designation. So to say they are not experts is silly. Just this past year 2012 all tech controllers and tech specialists had to take ISU examinations to retain their designation.

It's no surprise that "Tracy Wilson is not currently listed as a technical specialist by the ISU" since members of the media (commentators, sports writers, editors, etc.) are barred from becoming judges or technical specialists. If an individual is already a judge or technical specialist prior to being hired as a member of the media, then they are effectively 'suspended' and may not perform any judging/technical specialists duties until their media-related employment is terminated.

Similarly, members of the media may NOT attend any ISU sanctioned judging or technical seminars/conferences. Only once they leave their media-related job can a previous judge/technical specialist apply for reinstatement. Of course, to be re-certified at their previous judging/technical level designation, that individual may have to (re)attend seminars, complete additional test-event judging, and/or (re)take certain ISU exams.
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qazwsx

Rinkside
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Nov 8, 2007
I also think that Julia is far from out. I think that she is more likely to medal than Gracie Gold at this point. Remember her FS is her biggest strength and I think she is angry now, she wants that medal! In the end there will be at least one Russian Lady on the podium, that much is for sure.

Yup, and Yuna and Caro better stay on their feet, one mistake from them, the Russian lady will knock them down a notch. PCS and GOE are the Russians' biggest fan at this game.
 

TCAngel18

Medalist
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Feb 19, 2006
What is this nonsense about Kim not "advancing the sport"? What is she supposed to do, triple axels? 3-3-3 combos? She's doing (perfectly!!) the hardest 3-3 combo and to me all of her steps, spins and movements remain exquisite. Kostner can't do any harder combo than the quite pedestrian 3T-3T. THAT'S advancing the sport? And she gets held up with PCS even when she makes technical mistakes, which has been pretty frequent over the yrs. Don't even start with Sotnikova. She reduced her 3-3 combo to T-T from early in the season to now. THAT's advancing anything? Her scores tonite continue to blow me away. Absolutely NO justification for them, especially on the tech side. Julia will possibly advance things as she continues to mature and grow with her expressions. I actually like her more now that she fell and is likely out of the medals. Looking forward to her battles with Gold over the next quad.

Ok, then you must have missed the fact that Kostner performed 3F-3T, NOT 3T-3T, and knocked it out of the park, too. You must have missed that. Must have. Definitely did. I think you missed it. Annoying, huh? So were you in this post.You might want to check your answering machine, because the Optometrist called, for your next appointment, because you OBVIOUSLY need your eyes checked. And this is coming from not a Yuna fan, or a Mao fan, or a Carolina fan, but a SKATING fan. And a fan of non-ubers.
 

TCAngel18

Medalist
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Feb 19, 2006
As a competitor, Kim is.
I'd say Sandra's statement is more factually weighted than speculated. Actually Kim's real competitor is, not her peers, but the ISU. And she is still hard to beat with all the mishandlings that play out against her.

Oh, I don't mind that it was said, that's fine, because Yuna has ice in her veins, but The tone of Bezic's voice was almost like she was seeing her baby for the first time.
 

Becki

Medalist
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Nov 28, 2011
Ok, for anyone watching NBC right now, yes, Yu Na skated amazing, but I'm sorry, I laughed out loud when I heard Sandra Bezic catch her breath when saying Yuna is the best competitor she had ever seen. That May or may not be true, she is wonderful, but I don't know why I found it sounded hilarious coming out of Sandra's mouth. It was like Sandra had never said anything in her life with more conviction. #dontjudge #itsnotthatbigofadeal

I love her "pure technique' comments - I meant what is that even suppose to mean?!
 

chiocciola

On the Ice
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Feb 16, 2010
The best performance of the night - Adelina. Did you see those jumps? Crazy height! Spins, Footwork, Artistry. Every element deserved +3. It was a package!
The second best performance - Karo. Gorgeous, but technically not very impressive. +1 Goe.
The third - Yu-Na. Very clean, very solid. +2 in jumps, +1 in the rest. But Did you feel anything after the program? I didn't! Emty, hideous dress.
Gracie... little bit scratchy. But had attack. Could have benn in the mix had she landed those jumps clean.
Julia - my heart broke. Too much pressure on that girl after the Team event. Putin shouldn't have hugged her. She was way too nervous.
As I said before... Mao's not in the mix cuz of her reckless 3A attempts.
Ashley - very mediocre in TES, a mistake on the combo, good artistry... but she was so arrogant at KC.

Everything is as I predicted, but sadly Julia is out. Has a chance at bronze if anyone stumbles.

The judge panel is very fair and very strict.
 

Amei

Record Breaker
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Nov 11, 2013
There wasn't much to complain about Yuna's performance in the short. As for her program itself, I found it quite dull...but that's my own personal taste, I guess.

Agree, I'm not taking anything away from her - she is a great skater (they all are if they are at this level) but her skating doesn't do anything for me.

I also think that Julia is far from out. I think that she is more likely to medal than Gracie Gold at this point. Remember her FS is her biggest strength and I think she is angry now, she wants that medal! In the end there will be at least one Russian Lady on the podium, that much is for sure.

Completely agree; her emotions right now play very well into her FS program, and if any skater could make up 10 points on their competitors (even if clean) it's Julia with that FS. She is only 8-9 points out of bronze/silver and Adelina and Carolina are 2 skaters likely to falter. And we know there has been a home-ice boost for the Russians.
 

mhu714

On the Ice
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Ok, then you must have missed the fact that Kostner performed 3F-3T, NOT 3T-3T, and knocked it out of the park, too. You must have missed that. Must have. Definitely did. I think you missed it. Annoying, huh? So were you in this post.You might want to check your answering machine, because the Optometrist called, for your next appointment, because you OBVIOUSLY need your eyes checked. And this is coming from not a Yuna fan, or a Mao fan, or a Carolina fan, but a SKATING fan. And a fan of non-ubers.

Sorry for annoying you dude. My point however, was about nudniks saying Kim wasn't advancing the sport? Not sure if you're one of them, but if you are you certainly can't say that Kostner is either.
 

bebevia

On the Ice
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Jun 22, 2011
I think Dutchie just meant that judges, or people in general in life, tend to focus and evaluate those who went from 80 to 90 over a short time over someone who consistently stayed 95.

In other words, Dutchie is saying Yuna's rapid progress and contribution to sport was greater up to 2010, and slower and steadier (relative to Yuna's own past) afterwards. Adelina's rapid peak is now, which got the judges' attention and made her seem more impressive.
 

chairmanmao

Final Flight
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Dec 10, 2013
What is this nonsense about Kim not "advancing the sport"? What is she supposed to do, triple axels? 3-3-3 combos? She's doing (perfectly!!) the hardest 3-3 combo and to me all of her steps, spins and movements remain exquisite. Kostner can't do any harder combo than the quite pedestrian 3T-3T. THAT'S advancing the sport? And she gets held up with PCS even when she makes technical mistakes, which has been pretty frequent over the yrs. Don't even start with Sotnikova. She reduced her 3-3 combo to T-T from early in the season to now. THAT's advancing anything? Her scores tonite continue to blow me away. Absolutely NO justification for them, especially on the tech side. Julia will possibly advance things as she continues to mature and grow with her expressions. I actually like her more now that she fell and is likely out of the medals. Looking forward to her battles with Gold over the next quad.

Wow a Yuna fan on roid rage! Did you even see the competition first of all Miss Kostner landed a beautiful 3F-3T not the 3T-3T your imagining and second of all Sotnikova went up to the International Space Station on her triple-triple combination. It's amazing how entitled Yuna fans are even when she's leading. Seriously get a life.
 

TCAngel18

Medalist
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Feb 19, 2006
Sorry for annoying you dude. My point however, was about nudniks saying Kim wasn't advancing the sport? Not sure if you're one of them, but if you are you certainly can't say that Kostner is either.

That's ok, man. Although, technically, Yuna isn't either, 3Z-3T was performed in Albertville, by Yamaguchi, 22 years ago. Not too much height on hers, but rotated. Yuna has brought consistency. I don't mind that the sport isn't being advanced so much technically, at least in ladies. I like the advancement to be taken artistically, which is why I am glad they are allowing vocals. Although Kostner as a youngster was performing 3F-3T in 2004, and due to height andinjuries, had to regain her difficulty. To be honest, I do like Kostner the best, because she is able to do so much with her height, and I think she has taken the most RISK, program wise. Yuna may have close to as much variety, but I feel like she has picked music that was in her "wheelhouse".
 

Juliasochi

Match Penalty
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Feb 19, 2014
The best performance of the night - Adelina. Did you see those jumps? Crazy height! Spins, Footwork, Artistry. Every element deserved +3.
Gracie... little bit scratchy. But had attack. Could have benn in the mix had she landed those jumps clean.


The judge panel is very fair and very strict.
It is so laughable if not comical...
 

skatingpunk

Rinkside
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Dec 8, 2009
Again, Yuna shows nerves of steel, and is rightfully in first place. She is the total package. So happy to see Carolina skate so well. I really hope she can hold it together for tomorrow. And nice to see Adelina seize her moment, if a bit overscored, when Julia went down. If history is anything to go by, Yuna wins gold, and the rest is up for grabs.
 
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