The "technical" argument smacks me as false. If Yuna's technical performance wasn't up to snuff, then why didn't she lose to Mao in Vancouver? The reason Yuna has been able to set world records is that she gets incredible GOE bonuses on her technical elements, not because she performs the most or most difficult triples. It is her jumping technique as much as the content of her programs that has set her apart in competitions.
Correct. Kostner deserved those -GOEs. Mao will get -GOE for all her URs. The judges aren't blind and see those jumps.
Sotnikova's last combo yes, -GOE, but not as harsh as some people here think it should be. It was a triple double double with an overcooked last double. It wasn't UR or anything, just overrotated. The judges have to take into account the entire element (not just the last double in the combo) and apart from that last overcooked jump it was a fabulous element. Skaters still get +GOE bullets for elements and that can work against deductions to lessen the impact. It's why a skater may do a quad and have a scratchy landing, but still get BV (instead of -GOE) for it. Some of Mao's Two Footed double axels in the past have been scored similarly.
How is that possible? Adelina could have flat out fallen on one jump and still have a higher BV in jumping than Yuna Kim. She had 1 WHOLE TRIPLE more than Yuna and even with a FALL on one it is more than 0 points. Yuna was at a BV deficit of several points compared to Sotnikova because:
1. No Triple Loop
2. Spin Levels
3. FW Levels
What Logic are you trying to use to give anyone the impression that Yuna's BV is higher than Adelina's jumping or combined. Adelina's Spins are clear level 4's. Yuna's aren't. If you know the criteria, you could see in real time that Yuna gave points away to Sotnikova in spinning. I said weeks (months) ago that Yuna was going into the Olympics at a deficit for not having that Triple Loop and not improving her spinning. She needed it. You people were standing around with fingers in your ears yelling "Yuna is PERFECTION." Whatever...
Even if it wasn't Adelina... If Asada had hit her SP and then delivered the same LP from the last group of the night, she probably would have vanquished Yuna because technically she was simply more prepared to compete with the more athletic skaters out there... If Kostner didn't have so many tight landings she could have taken that Gold medal herself. She actually beat Sotnikova's PCS by more than 0.09 and she had a 7 triple program. She just gave away too much in the GOE.
I think people just HATE the fact that Sotnikova won. Why? Do you own Yuna Kim stock?
"The Korean one?":disapp: Rude, that, when every single writer here, however rude otherwise, calls the athletes by their names... "Stupid program?"
Kyllä huomaa, että olet suomalainen, tyypillistä luolamies-keskustelupalstatasoa. Täällä ilkeätkin kirjoittajat sentään käyttävät tyylikästä kieltä. Hävettää.
According to the NYT graphic linked earlier, the only jump Yuna got a better GOE on was her opening Lutz Toe Loop combination. On every other jump Adelina was given more bonus points. And again, Yuna has the greatest jumping form in the sport. Her jumps are the reason for her success. That is why Julia was so hyped to begin with---because her flexibility was something Yuna could not compete with.
So how can we justify this?
How is that possible? Adelina could have flat out fallen on one jump and still have a higher BV in jumping than Yuna Kim. She had 1 WHOLE TRIPLE more than Yuna and even with a FALL on one it is more than 0 points. Yuna was at a BV deficit of several points compared to Sotnikova because:
1. No Triple Loop
2. Spin Levels
3. FW Levels
What Logic are you trying to use to give anyone the impression that Yuna's BV is higher than Adelina's jumping or combined. Adelina's Spins are clear level 4's. Yuna's aren't. If you know the criteria, you could see in real time that Yuna gave points away to Sotnikova in spinning. I said weeks (months) ago that Yuna was going into the Olympics at a deficit for not having that Triple Loop and not improving her spinning. She needed it. You people were standing around with fingers in your ears yelling "Yuna is PERFECTION." Whatever...
Even if it wasn't Adelina... If Asada had hit her SP and then delivered the same LP from the last group of the night, she probably would have vanquished Yuna because technically she was simply more prepared to compete with the more athletic skaters out there... If Kostner didn't have so many tight landings she could have taken that Gold medal herself. She actually beat Sotnikova's PCS by more than 0.09 and she had a 7 triple program. She just gave away too much in the GOE.
I think people just HATE the fact that Sotnikova won. Why? Do you own Yuna Kim stock?
You're not going to convince us there was no home cooking and that Adelina didn't get gifted that gold. A broad consensus of Fans, Commentators, etc. believe Adelina was grossly over-scored, and she was. She deserved a medal, but not gold.
Please don't try to keep yourself in denial. BTW for the last sarcasm, "Do you own Yuna Kim stock?" are you by any chance being Putin's gay lover, aren't you?
You're not going to convince us there was no home cooking and that Adelina didn't get gifted that gold. A broad consensus of Fans, Commentators, etc. believe Adelina was grossly over-scored, and she was. She deserved a medal, but not gold.
Yuna's jumps had higher base value individually than Sotnikova's, and she was not awarded appropriately with GOEs. Again, Sotnikova did one clean lutz and one clean flip, as opposed to Kim's very well executed 2 lutz and 1 flip. The TES of Sotnikova's jumps was higher, but again, Kim's GOE should have been higher than it was.How is that possible? Adelina could have flat out fallen on one jump and still have a higher BV in jumping than Yuna Kim. She had 1 WHOLE TRIPLE more than Yuna and even with a FALL on one it is more than 0 points. Yuna was at a BV deficit of several points compared to Sotnikova because:
Lol. So mad...
I also wanted to point out how positive and unbiased was commentary on the Russian feeds. Tarasova was on one channel, Trankov was on the other, and Slutskaya on another. Particularly, TAT was literally sobbing during Mao's skate and could not stop complementing and thrilled for Carolina.