Yuzuru Hanyu: 2013-14 Season

[jimeonji]

I too spent a lot of time understanding and identifying the different jumps. In fact, I just recently learned how to differentiate a loop from a salchow without relying on slow-mo replays. A flip and a lutz still looks the same especially the girls since they have a tendency to flutz. And I still can't count the number of rotations in the air esp bet a quad and a triple unless it is in slow mo. It really takes a lot of skating videos. My advice for you is to watch videos of other skaters as well, not only Yuzu's since you will have memorized his layout after watching his vid many times. Try watching full versions of competitions in youtube to train your eye more on the jumps.

it's true that a lot of the ladies skaters flutz, but flutzes do not look like flips - you can still tell they were going for a lutz by the way they set up (flips usually have turns and a shorter set up going in, lutzes you'll see ladies spend more time going straight backwards and then getting on their outside edge) and also how their left foot (if counter clock wise spinner/jumper) is trying to get the outside edge but when they reach back the right foot to pick the ice, their left foot goes wonky and therefore they jump from an inside/unclear edge instead of the outside edge. Yuna never flutzes (but kind of lips, but whatever), Mao flutzes - look at scoresheets for the jumps and then watch their left foot to see the difference in a true lutz, a flutz, and a flip. But definitely go and watch a lot of other skaters (frees probably, because you get more variety of jumps) - I had Yuzu's layout memorized long before I got the jumps down.

as for rotations in the air, that just takes time and being able to recognize a quad/triple from height or setup~

 

[Maria Victoria]

Pamina and lbc 2138, "weird" and "chills" that we Yuzuru fans seem to think alike. It has happened more than once on this thread already. Not that surprising really as Yuzuru has the same efffect on us.

 

[HanDomi]

I think after a some time it is only very hard to recognize if Reynolds has done tripple or quad , because his quads are very small but fast

as for rotations in the air, that just takes time and being able to recognize a quad/triple from height or setup~

 

[roxella]

edit: 290 pages? wow

And still counting

Also many thanks to the people who translate for us,non-japnese speakers!

 

[roxella]

it's true that a lot of the ladies skaters flutz, but flutzes do not look like flips - you can still tell they were going for a lutz by the way they set up (flips usually have turns and a shorter set up going in, lutzes you'll see ladies spend more time going straight backwards and then getting on their outside edge) and also how their left foot (if counter clock wise spinner/jumper) is trying to get the outside edge but when they reach back the right foot to pick the ice, their left foot goes wonky and therefore they jump from an inside/unclear edge instead of the outside edge. Yuna never flutzes (but kind of lips, but whatever), Mao flutzes - look at scoresheets for the jumps and then watch their left foot to see the difference in a true lutz, a flutz, and a flip. But definitely go and watch a lot of other skaters (frees probably, because you get more variety of jumps) - I had Yuzu's layout memorized long before I got the jumps down.

as for rotations in the air, that just takes time and being able to recognize a quad/triple from height or setup~

For me the easiest jumps to recognize are Salchow,Toeloop and Axel. I still have some problems with Flip and Lutz but I guess that I will be able to recognize them too, in a while

 

[jimeonji]

For me the easiest jumps to recognize are Salchow,Toeloop and Axel. I still have some problems with Flip and Lutz but I guess that I will be able to recognize them too, in a while

just watch the left foot and set up and you'll be able to tell in time! they were the last two jumps that I learned. after watching a whole lot of skating you'll be able to tell even without having to stare at the feet good luck to everyone learning to tell between jumps!! next step - learn the names of all the spins and transitions and memorize base values :yay:

 

[DarR]

Here's a great video if you want to recognize the jumps!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu81i6vufWA

 

[Yuzusan]

If you mean a complete EX performance, unfortunately they were not aired at all. Not the Sapporo ones. Only several seconds in the news. But osaka EX was aired completely last Saturday. So you might be able to quickly grab something in youtube.

Yah i know, i said that because i think the performance of Hanyu on Hana ni nare was better at Sapporo than Osaka. That's why i really want to see it

 

[winterbell]

Yah i know, i said that because i think the performance of Hanyu on Hana ni nare was better at Sapporo than Osaka. That's why i really want to see it

I guess one of the SOI performance will be on air this week. Thursday? not sure which one they will pick though.

 

[Maria Victoria]

Another labor of love by Ana@WhateverHime: "Yuzuru's Olympic Journey" http://www.trilulilu.ro/yuzuru-s-journey.

Thank you again Ana. Looking forward to the sequel.

Interesting reactions to Yuzuru's Olympic LP from the countries of his competitors, etc.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNOoYnng8o.

 

[Esopian]

I feel that Yuzuru's ambition to be a strong competitor that doesn't lose is extremely admirable. It's crazy that he wants to strive even further after he won Gold at Sochi. His outright determination does give fans some chills, it's just he's special in that way with his longing to be a better skater. His maturity really makes me wonder how his mind can develop and process all of that deep information!

If all 19 year olds were as wise as him, the world would be a better place!

 

[Maria Victoria]

I feel that Yuzuru's ambition to be a strong competitor that doesn't lose is extremely admirable. It's crazy that he wants to strive even further after he won Gold at Sochi. His outright determination does give fans some chills, it's just he's special in that way with his longing to be a better skater. His maturity really makes me wonder how his mind can develop and process all of that deep information!

If all 19 year olds were as wise as him, the world would be a better place!

ITA. He is not living the "unexamined" life by any means.

 

[Hanmgse]

ITA. He is not living the "unexamined" life by any means.

:thumbsup:

 

[msteach3]

【video】meet press after SP at Worlds.

http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/131089886-1826082103.html

Three medalists who are non-English natives met press after SP at Worlds.
Machita and Yuzu surrendered in English soon and speak in Japanese instead.

That's adorable!! I haven't heard him speak that much English before. Very good Yuzu! You could tell he was working hard like he does with everything .

 

[foruiz]

Here's a great video if you want to recognize the jumps!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu81i6vufWA

What a great video indeed. Thanks!

 

[foruiz]

That's adorable!! I haven't heard him speak that much English before. Very good Yuzu! You could tell he was working hard like he does with everything .

Wow, it is nice to see that he is trying so hard, we Yuzu fans should be challenged to learn Japanese as well. Here is a Youtube link for those interested in the language. I am currently in Lesson 12... It is still a long way to go...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0kU2cc85ZA&list=PLB3F2C5D8B5F81F34

 

[WinnieThePooh]

Here's a great video if you want to recognize the jumps!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu81i6vufWA

wow such a useful video! thank u all so much! I guess problems with identify jumps would even not exist if I skated myself. But since I don't, I have to 100% rely on videos and protocols.
Talking about Japanese language, such a destiny that I had been learning it before I knew Yuzu. By now I can speak and understand some in interviews. I've always been fond of studying foreign languages and now the motivation and inspiration are even much more clear and stronger.

 

[roxella]

Another labor of love by Ana@WhateverHime: "Yuzuru's Olympic Journey" http://www.trilulilu.ro/yuzuru-s-journey.

Thank you again Ana. Looking forward to the sequel.

This video gives me chills! So awesome! :

 

[nimi]

I guess problems with identify jumps would even not exist if I skated myself. But since I don't, I have to 100% rely on videos and protocols.

While I know how to skate, I have never tried to do proper jumps on ice (I can only do little hops and waltz jumps). What has helped me to identify lutzes vs. flips and salchows vs. loops is that I have practiced them off ice. Of course it's not the same when you're practicing on the floor wearing socks and you might feel a little silly, but it helps!

Like when you're doing a floor-lutz, stand on one leg (like a skater who is approaching the lutz with a long glide backwards), then bend your knee and try to shift your point of balance towards the outer "edge" of your foot, then bring down the toes of your other foot and do a single rotation (either in air or twirling on your toes) and then "land" the jump. Then try doing a flip. I can only get the "flippy" feel when stepping into it from a typical rotating flip entrace, with my point of balance only briefly shifting to the inner "edge" of my foot before the take off.

ETA: I recommend starting your floor exercise with the toe loop. In the take off position, your body is "open" and it feels quite natural to "close" your body and rotate the jump/twirl in the appropiate direction, whereas lutz and flip may feel more counter-intuitive at first.

 

[figureskateobasan]

this thread goes too fast!
don't know if anyone posted this already but it said that there is a possibility that Yuzuru will do 3 quads next season..
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20140415-00000104-san-spo

this crazy guy....