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I think the problem is how do you raise the bar from a Danse Macabre. What could have measured up? I think the move to an 007 type was likely the best way to go.
I agree. James Bond = Danse UnMacabre
I think the problem is how do you raise the bar from a Danse Macabre. What could have measured up? I think the move to an 007 type was likely the best way to go.
I think the problem is how do you raise the bar from a Danse Macabre. What could have measured up? I think the move to an 007 type was likely the best way to go.
I guess that would have been an option. Would the judges have viewed that as too cautious?Personlly I would have used Danse Macabre for another year.
I guess that would have been an option. Would the judges have viewed that as too cautious?
I think the problem is how do you raise the bar from a Danse Macabre. What could have measured up? I think the move to an 007 type was likely the best way to go.
I think the problem is how do you raise the bar from a Danse Macabre. What could have measured up? I think the move to an 007 type was likely the best way to go.
janetfan said:I think it gets back to the "body of work" theme that was discussed recently and why Michelle has achieved such legendary status with so any skating fans.
My thoughts exactly. Once a skater reaches the top of their technically ability, the idea is to keep that side consistent, and add to the artistic ability side. I don't expect to see quads and 3a's from Yu-Na, but I do anticipate more creative programs from her team, maybe try different themes and characters, and just watch her grow as an artist, adding to her "body of work."
Very nice points.. agreed. I guess these are the reasons for my (moderate) disappointment for this year's programmes from Yuna.. I think that's what Lambiel tried to do since 2005 because he was pretty much at peak then in terms of his technical abilities, whereas we saw him reach his peak artistically with Poeta just before he retired (I'm not counting this season yet..)
I'm actually surprised she's been breaking all the records with the 007 SP this year, I mean obviously she is a great skater, but I am not quite as impressed with the choreography and her expression in it as I was with Tango De Roxanne and Danse Macabre. Yuna is a very sophisticated skater and while she still pulls of the whole sexy look in 007, the program seems almost kind of silly.
Yes, in retrospect she should have skated to Bond last year and Dance Macabre this year all else being equal.I think if she skated Danse Macabre with the lutz combo and otherwise as well as she skates 007 at TEB, she would have gotten an even better score.
Yes, in retrospect she should have skated to Bond last year and Dance Macabre this year all else being equal.
Does she not have any more competitions until the Olympics? That's kind of a long time to go without competing
Kim has decided to skip the 4CC, which will be held in Korea, her home country. I heard that ISU is trying to get her to skate in this competition as the face of Korean figure skating (unsure about validity), but she is firm in her decision. This is the only big competition left between now and the Olympics, but I think she's made the smart choice. Orser has barred her from all media contact, which gets on her nerves (that whole flip business. The Korean reporters asked about it so much -- "What's wrong with your flip?" "Can you still land it?" -- that I think it got to her, forming a mental block). Participating in another competition will expose her to all of that again, something she probably wants to avoid. Most skaters avoid the 4CC in the Olympic year anyway because it's so close to what is the single most important competition of their lives. Although she's far from perfect, Kim no longer needs to prove herself on international ice, get more feedback from judges, run through the program just once more, like Mao (who will compete). She can afford to skip the competition.
Kim doesn't participate in the Korean Nationals, which occurred earlier on in the year to determine who will accompany her to the Vancouver Olympics (obviously, she's locked). That's an opportunity for most skaters to compete once more before the Olympic Games, but that's not really an option for Kim.
She's also said in an interview that last year's GPF was the most excrutiatingly difficult competition for her -- she was trembling on ice, just wishing it would all end. Skating on home ground is so difficult for her because of high expectations and the abnormally enthusiastic Korean crowd (also, she was sick and struggling with jet lag). I doubt she wants to repeat that experience, esp. when the Games are so close. It could become a blow from which she will struggle to recover.
Oh my god!!! Please tell them to get a life that doesn't revolve around Yu-Na!
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Anyway, I was on youtube, and here it is finally! A video made by Yuna fans regarding her 3-3 downgrade in TOKYO! Right after GPF, someone on golden forum predicted that Yuna fans will come up with a video explaining Yuna's downgrade situation, and here it is. ROFL
What do you all think? ahahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjBfMZlm_xo
Another contributor to the record breaking with 007 program is the fact that her technical score got a boost with the addition of the lutz combination and not to mention her other jumps look great. I think if she skated Danse Macabre with the lutz combo and otherwise as well as she skates 007 at TEB, she would have gotten an even better score.
Actually there is no difference in the base technical point potential as far as the jumps are concerned between 007 and Danse Macabre program.
Danse Macabre jump sequence:
3F/3T = 9.5
3L = 6.0
2A = 3.5
Total = 19.0
Bond Medley jump sequence:
3L/3T = 10.0
3F = 5.5
2A = 3.5
Total = 19.0
At first, I too was a little put off by the Bond Medley program but she has refined it now to the point of not being overly cutesy and I like it more now. Even I appreciated the technical pyrotechnics of Danse Macabre, it never set my world on fire, either. And as some have said already, the Bond program is definitely different from all the other ladies short programs. She even said it feels more like a exhibition program to her so maybe it allows her to relax more. I didn't really like Die Fleldermaus either but that was probably mostly due to personal dislike of the costume. Le Tango de Roxanne remain my favorite program for her. Probably the most expressive of all her short programs.
As far as the 3L/3T downgrade issue, I agree that we need to move on as that is over with. It will only resurface if that become an issue again during the Olympics.
Anyway, I was on youtube, and here it is finally! A video made by Yuna fans regarding her 3-3 downgrade in TOKYO! Right after GPF, someone on golden forum predicted that Yuna fans will come up with a video explaining Yuna's downgrade situation, and here it is. ROFL
What do you all think? ahahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjBfMZlm_xo
Wow, what a cool video! And I do agree that the whole downgrade and edge call business is complete BS because if Yuna can't do a clean 3-3 then no one can. I do agree it was a little extreme though but I like all the special effects! I'm glad Yuna decided not to go to 4CC, she got her flip at GPF and that was my only concern for her. She is in a good position now for the Olympics and hopefully the fans will cool down a bit. She is the best female singles skater that will be at the Olympics by far (IMO) and I will be very surprised if she does not win the Gold Medal. Even if she doesn't win the gold medal, I'm just so excited to watch her skate. She is amazing :agree: .
GOOOO YUNA!