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Or somewhere in between -- no conspiracy, some judges sincerely blown away by Adelina more than by Yuna, others comparably impressed with both but more generous to Adelina, consciously or unconsciously, because they preferred the result where she won (maybe for nationalistic reasons, maybe because of personal feelings about these young women beyond what they actually put on the ice, whatever).
As for the level calls, I think it is possible that they were made honestly. That Kim honestly didn't get credit for upper body movement in the FS step sequence. That in real time, from the angle the panel was watching, whoever counted turns and steps for Sotnikova came up with IDs closer to my analysis than Blades of Passion's and gave her the feature, and neither of the other panel member felt the need to review the sequence to question it. If they watched again in slow motion for a different angle they might rethink whether she really achieved "complexity of turns and steps" as defined. Or stand by their initial determination, if video from the official angle confirmed their original count.
This Russian Coach who frequent FSU under the username sfahurut has this to say about Assistant Technical Specialist Olga Barnova of Finland.
Baranova was born, trained and worked as coach in Russia. She is known as acquaintance of Tarasova. I wonder what her name was before she got married and changed her last name. In her interview (and also Alisa Drei) for Russian speaking Finnish TV she mentioned they worked together in America and Tarasova was a "second mom" to them. (And we all know how much Tarasova is involved in Adelina's training) It was also mentioned in comments on sport.ru by Russian fans. There is a lot of discussion about the whole "russification" of the tech and judging panel on Russian forums and comments after articles and most agree it was done very bluntly.
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...inary-issues&p=4209185&viewfull=1#post4209185
There were also comments on the net (CNN) left by someone called Mark Rodriguez that said she is actually one of Adelina's ex coaches. Can someone debuff or confirm any of the above which is verified by 2 sources? Can someone from Russia confirm or deny this?
In any case there are enough clues to start investigation and debunk truth and lies once and for all. If it turn out to be true, then it really doesn't look good on ISU, the host country or IOC does it? This has nothing to do with the competency or the honesty of the judges but about risk management. IF at least 2/3d of Tech panel is firmly on the Russia's side with inherent biases, and those inherent biases has somehow affect their work including making the wrong judgement as the case been proven here, then it is a bedrock of catastrophic system failure with no preventative measures in place, where people can be held accountable or being challenged. ISU has failed the sport at the highest level again, so how can they be trusted?
Consider 9 people judge panel consist of at least 3 judges who has proven to have made critical impacts to advance Russian ladies and likely personal interests, + 1 banned judge for cheating in ice dancing, +2 judges with aligned interest to handicap their shared main rival skater, how can it be any surprise of a likely outcome and the mark everyone received? On top of that 2 out of 3 Technical judges who made several questionable calls, one might be a formal coach of the winning skater, the other the Vice President of the Russian federation who desperately want her to win the gold. What are the chances of them all get to judge on the same panel on the most important ladies event every 4 years, one that Russian lady has never won but desperately want? (Putin, Russian Politics, Hockey factors aside)
ISU's job and responsibility is suppose to ensure every effort has been taken to ensure fair minded individuals with no conflict of interest in any of the competitors to deliver a universally fair outcome. Based on the result, indeed EVERY effort has been given to ENSURE the opposite happen. Given the make up of the panel, their CV, personal relationship as well as probable nationality biases. These panel of judges are inherently biased without anything needed to be skated on ice.
The system is simply flawed. The only random part of the judge selection is whether they get to judge either SP or LP or both, but actually ISU still get to nominate which countries can send judges. If ISU can nominate which countries, AND hold all records of judge's history and familiar with judge's scoring trends and personal opinions, AND wrote all the rules to remove accountability and transparency, they can distort the outcome in anyway they like by putting the right panel together. Between Speedy and the VP of Russia Skating Federation / Chairman of Technical committee / Incompetent Tech ruler at Sochi (who established Julia's flutz is perfectly acceptable since Team event), they have come up with this system they can manipulate under anonymity as long as they are in power, since they have also written the backout clause/rules so no one can challenge them.
I don't think it is a matter of nationality or national bias among the judges, since there are honest judges everywhere regardless of nationality, but whether they get to judge at the highest level is an issue that must be examined more carefully. This sport relies on 100% judging, if the judges can not be trusted, the sport is doom to fail.
Separate judges from federation, remove anonymity, improve accountability and transparency are the only ways to minimize political influences/impact to regain public trust.
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