2012 GPF Men's Short Program
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I know what you mean we all want our favorites to win. lol.
Looking forward to a good competition tomorrow. Good luck to all!
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Me? Go on twitter and search 'inflation'. You wish I were the only one who is talking.
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hot damm. I'm over the moon for Dai laying it down like a champion. who says his time is passed.
One thing I noticed is the GOE that Patrick got for his 3A - 2.57. It was a good 3A, but that good? The best Yuzuru got for his beautiful 3A with the crazy entrance and exit was 2.14. It's like the judges went crazy from happiness that their Patrick finally landed a 3A.
Hanyu's SP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xetXT12GAvY
unfortunately it freezes a bit so it not ur internet lagging
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xetXT12GAvY
unfortunately it freezes a bit so it not ur internet lagging
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^Thank you so much!
I remember Hanyu's 3a landing was not good. maybe?
Whatever. I think Hanyu was overscored too.. overall.
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Great to see such good skating. Dai deseved first but PC wise including interpretation I would have had Chan first. It is close so it is anyone of the top 5.
I would agree that Hanyu's 3A at his first GP (forget where now) was stunning - it literally took my breath away. I think his second (at the second GP) was also fantastic, but I didn't gasp - maybe because I already expected it or maybe it wasn't quite as spectacular if though it was first rate. So, I suppose we can nitpick the GOE's, although in this case, relative to the other competitors today, I don't feel these scores were 'out there' or off. And, I did think Chan's 3A today was pretty amazing today, no hesitation, skated fast into it, fast turns, lovely glide out of it (I couldn't judge the height though, but i imagine he had nice height)...actually, so his quad was pretty amazing too, at first, I thought he tripled it.
I'm really looking forward to the LPs...despite errors, there are some amazing skaters here and I liked that they all seemed to fight for it (although, I haven't seen Javi yet, and do hope he rebounds).
I'm really looking forward to the LPs...despite errors, there are some amazing skaters here and I liked that they all seemed to fight for it (although, I haven't seen Javi yet, and do hope he rebounds).
My bad.
Because of bad stream I couldn't watch Chan's 3A well.
Yes.. usually Hanyu's 3A quality is better.
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I think Chan got -3 GOE from turning 3Lz into 2Lz, but he got a little positive GOE somewhere for this combo.:scowl:
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I agree, I love his program.
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The minimum combo required is a 3-2 or 2-3, so 2Lz+3T it's correct, it shouldn't receive a negative GOE because he turned the 3Lz into a 2Lz; actually, if he landed the 3T well, the GOE should have been a positive one! He fairly received -2 because of the step-out.
Actually, the requirement for a jump combination in the SP is a minimum of one triple and one double jump - it doesn't matter which one is first or second. Chan executed a Double Lutz + Triple Toe combo, which fulfilled the SP requirement. As a result, the negative GOE here does not have to be a mandatory -3; however, due to the step out on the Triple Toe, 8 of the 9 judges chose to give him -2 for the overall execution of the combo which was the right call.
So it is incorrect to say he received negative GOE on this element for doubling the Lutz. In fact, had he landed his Triple Toe properly, the element would have likely received positive GOE overall.
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