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These allegations need to be proven and if evidence exists, not simply heresay, should be lodged in a court of law.
2014 Olympics Ladies Free Skate
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These allegations need to be proven and if evidence exists, not simply heresay, should be lodged in a court of law.
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Well your opinion does not represent me,
And i guess that's as far as we can go on this
(And don't even try bringing in the Judges and commentators. You MUST know you're outnumbered, Or at least evenly matched)
Opinions do not matter, nor does personal liking or uber-fandom when it comes to judging performances.
Like I said, *proof* that Sotnikova did worse, that Kim expressed herself or performed much better than she did, like the way the NYTimes writer provided, is more valid in discussing judging outcomes.
The NYTimes writer showed how Sotnikova beat Kim, but did not explain WHY Sotnikova received the marks she did in order to do so. So that's not proof. If anything, it calls into question the marks.
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OMG Adelina Sotnikova is trending on twitter for her amazing skate.
Take a look. I didn't know people thought her performance was the best. wooooww
http://imgur.com/kQQ2QZI
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Take a look. I didn't know people thought her performance was the best. wooooww
http://imgur.com/kQQ2QZI
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Fine
https://www.change.org/en-CA/petiti...-and-demand-rejudgement-at-the-sochi-olympics
That's the petition,
If you're so sure of yourself go ahead and sign it, Get the investigation going,
I mean, All the marks were deserved, So what harm could happen other than proof for you ?
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This isn't about her projecting "joy", I don't expect her to for a program like "Adios", but it is a Tango, even Mao brought it to a sober program, everyone agreed, why didn't Kim? This is especially so when she burst into tears like someone posted, why wasn't this pent-up emotions brought to the performance? I think she did for her Vancouver FS, every movement was infused, much like Mao's FS here.
Still, that brings up the PCS, which is already scored to the stratosphere. Choreography content was lacking, and I do blame her choreographer for a more understated program when she must have been aware of what Sotnikova, Mao, Lipnitskaya were bringing.
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Sorry guys I ve been there and Olympic Games is not just FigureSkating, I went to mountain cluster events too and sports outside FS ladies LP, so to say the Sochi Games or Russia doesnt deserve these Games a failure is a bit off, writes off all the work done, the great venues, the amazing volunteers and so on...
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usethis2, I respectfully ask that you not dismiss my comment as nonsense, when it is my opinion and we are both entitled to our opinions. Moreover, please don't make my comment about tonight a general referendum on Yuna's skating. You are taking the opportunity to argue for Yuna's emotional expressiveness in general. But I was not speaking generally, and I was not speaking about the short. I was specifically talking about tonight. and Tonight she played it too safe. Johnny and Tara were just asked on Late Night with Bob Costas abt the result and they said the placements were correct although the spread of points was too big. They both said Yuna "skated safe" and "skated tight." I agree. and Paul Wylie said the same thing: "Kim needed to grab it at the end there," said commentator Paul Wylie, a former Olympic silver medalist. ''She just played it too safe."
Yuna herself knows that tonight was not her best performance.
Kim acknowledged that she wasn't as inspired as when she won the gold medal in Vancouver in 2010, saying, "That desire, that strong wish, was not as present. Motivation was a problem, I think."
I thought Yuna won the short and should have been higher marked for it. I also think Adelina should have been below Carolina in the short. But tonight,tonight is what I am talking about. and tonight, she simply didn't have the passion or gusto or joy she, Yuna Kim, has had in the past. Her free skate at 2013 Worlds was much more emotive and expressive. Her performances in Vancouver had more energy, more zest, more dynamism. She was tired, under strain, tight, and guarded tonight.
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Come on, this petition is an agenda, you should know it. I don't have to sign this because there are already swarm mobilization type software at work, it always did for Kim ubers, Youtube videos with hundreds, thousands of preposterous Likes/Dislikes made this quite clear. It doesn't happen to other skaters, just sayin'...Like I said, it is disrespectful to skaters who gave the performance of their lives.Kim didn't, I wish she did, results are just.
I'm pretty sure Kostner fans are ticked off, and I wager if Mao skated decently in the SP and got robbed of a medal, you would see the same amount complaints (and probably the anger of the Japanese Skating Federation). So it's not true that this doesn't happen to other skaters.
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She did perform extremely well, except for that one jump. If this judge thinks it's +3, another judge thinks it's +2, so what? ALL judges agreed they were +GOE worthy.
I liked all her jumps, powerful, great height, fully rotated, as did many others, deal with it.
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Yuna Kim = 219.11
Carolina Kostner = 219.11
Adelina Sotnikova 70.52 + 136.61 = 207.13 (I gave her the PCS of Ashley Wagner and kept her
original TES even though Ashley skating is superior to hers.) You see it's a toss between her and Gracie if justice was served.
Gracie Gold = 205.53
Carolina Kostner = 219.11
Adelina Sotnikova 70.52 + 136.61 = 207.13 (I gave her the PCS of Ashley Wagner and kept her
original TES even though Ashley skating is superior to hers.) You see it's a toss between her and Gracie if justice was served.
Gracie Gold = 205.53
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Well, Normally i'll give you that, Seeing i love a lot of the design at Sochi
Only... the pipe surfers also complaind that the snow is "Garbage"
A lot of snowboarders said the snow is much much too soft, Which hurt their performance
Some fecilities have been ridiculed,
And let us not forget the contreversies before the event even started, You know, Gay rights, Terrorism, Stolen lands by new law,
Some people here seem to think those where things that spooked some international crowd from coming,
Resulting in what you see in the Figure skating arena every competition, That's not the Olympic spirit
Having said that i'm glad for you you're having a good time, And hope you made great memories (Not cynically)
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Actually, I would opine that Mao was too harshly judged for SP, but correctly rewarded for FS. Not every skater got an edge call, so it's not completely fair, imo. I would place her 4th, even with a flawed SP. However, I'm not going to make unfounded allegations about bribery, it robs the skaters, and unfairly besmirches the Games. Like I said, EVIDENCE, please.
@wordsworthgirl: I did not mean to generalize. I apologize. As for Johnny and Tara, they knew the score Adelina received, just like us. They perhaps knew what was coming. They sensed what's foreordained. Remember they were there all the while and knew Yuna's routine ahead. It's an understated program, yes, but it doesn't mean emotion isn't there. Maybe you and I disagree on this point, but even the title is "Adios.." It's her good-bye song to skating fans. She did the program as well as she could, without being a flipper/flapper like some other skaters.
YuNa was a true champion. It was a performance of age like Sandra said.Watch BBC ,CBC, Spain, German TV, Even Italian commentators were so upset about the result. they said YuNa should win gold and Caro take silver.
Remember. Adelina is not a true a champion.
Remember. Adelina is not a true a champion.
