2014 Olympics Ladies Free Skate

[dardar1126]

Carolina's LP performance just made me SMILE! :yay: It was so beautiful and triumphant; I'm so happy to see her end her career in such a wonderful, sublime way!!

 

[Mista Ekko]

Wishful thinking? I hope she keeps skating and has a career impressive enough to make the gifted OGM look trivial in comparison.

I LOLd, It was surprising

 

[Globetrotter]

Yu-Na made a severe mistake of skating without any transitions. Her lutz, flip and salchow did not have difficult exits or entrances like she had in Gershwin and even last year in Les Miserables. The judges could not give her higher GOE on the jumps, there were no more bullets apart from height, flow and effortlessness. I think her GOE were just baout right. However, PCS is a different story. On no account should Adelina have been scored close to Mao, Yu-Na and Carolina in this respect, let alone higher...

Hi Bartek, glad that someone finally made the connection instead of harping on Yuna's reputation for being the best jumper technically. Point is its not about what was done or what the skater is about, but what actually happened in the FS last night. I agree, Yuna is the most complete jump package but she did not have what she came off with in Vancouver 4 years ago. I agree that the GOE was fair, same for Caro, Sot although I think Asada's 3F3Lo< was really too harsh. It looked perfectly fine to my layperson eyes.

 

[Mista Ekko]

Sometimes, the USFSA doesn't make sense.

Russian and Japanese federation did excactly the same this season

 

[Mista Ekko]

Considering what the judges did/wanted for the podium, it may have not mattered, but we saw what Mirai can do in the Olympics. She would've been a greater threat.

I get the US federation though, They could've either took a bet that Nagasu who was nowhere near anything since a week after Olympics will be a skater that will come alive at Olympics again,
Or they could go with the girl who braught in the past 2 years the best finishes at Worlds, 3 GP wins and one silver, 2 GPF medals, 4CC Gold and 2 time national champion, And oh, Also best scorer at WTT for americans (And a covergirl).
To be fair Nagasu wouldn't have made it higher than 7th here at her best, And probably lower, So why deny Ash of the spot she braught back.

Mirai got the oppertunity to retire (If she will) as a giant martyr, Everybody wins.

 

[cptnhastings]

Carolina's LP performance just made me SMILE! :yay: It was so beautiful and triumphant; I'm so happy to see her end her career in such a wonderful, sublime way!!

+1

Such a joyous performance. So happy to see her exit on a high note.

I hadn't realized this was a new program for Sotnikova? Scott said something about her going back to old music.

I always fast forwarded through her in the events this season.

ETA: Sotnikova did have a good skate, but that step sequence near the end was plain ugly. I can see how it made the level, but the GOE for that should've been lower than Carolina's by more than .2. (I know, it really doesn't matter to the overall score, but blech that was ugly. )

 

[Mista Ekko]

+1

Such a joyous performance. So happy to see her exit on a high note.

I hadn't realized this was a new program for Sotnikova? Scott said something about her going back to old music.

I always fast forwarded through her in the events this season.

Carolina and Mao were just BEYOND !!

I was mostly annoyed that Kim was coming back, But she had me on her side by the time the FS ended, What beautiful skating and what nerves of steal! A true champion

 

[Figure 8's]

Yawn, here we go again. Those mean awful judges. Bad judging when your favorite does not win, good judging if they do. Happens in every Olympics.
Adelina had the technical edge and thus she won. Plus she skated like she wanted to be there. all smiles and happy. I don't particularly like her style of skating but she won fair and square.
Yuna on the other hand was clean and beautiful but she did not look like she wanted to be there. Kind of just going threw the motions and I thought her Free Skate was boring. It had no oomph and bad chorography.
Caroline I enjoyed the most but she did not have the technical difficulty that she had in the short, which I thought was breathtaking. I am so happy for her that she finally got a Olympic medal.
The skater I am most impressed with is Polina Edmonds. I think she was the one underscored. Being her 1st International Competition and the Olympics besides, she skated beautifully with only the one fall. She and Gracie should have a good rivalry going in the coming years. I also have to hand it Mao for coming back and skating like she did in free skate. She knew she could not medal but she gave it her all and that makes her a winner in my books.

 

[draqq]

Adelina 3Lz+3T was underrotated and with proper edge call and -GEO, her TES should have been 3-4 points lower. I feel that in general, the whole competition, most of the non european skaters are harshly marked. The PCS given for Kanako, ZujinLi, Kaylen Osmond is just plain absurd... oh well...

Once the veteren retired, its going to be a cold war all over again between the Russian and U.S, as I don't seen any skaters from other nations being a podium threat. Maybe Li from China in the mix, if its in a fair world...

Agreed. The 3Lz was a clear edge call with a flutz and the 3T should have been downgraded. She should also have received -2 GOE for the trip in the three-jump combination. That's about 5 points right there.

Her PCS scores should have been lower by at least a half point on every mark apart from performance. Her PCS score from Europeans and the GPF show which were in the high 7s and low 8s show just how much she "magically" improved in the Olympics with 9s. That's heavy inflation, much more than what the other skaters got just for being at the Olympics.

 

[alexeifan]

I don't see how Adelina had the tech edge when she only did a 3T-3T and on another jump stepped out. Yuna and Mao had the more difficult combos with clean performances.

 

[Mista Ekko]

Yawn, here we go again. Those mean awful judges. Bad judging when your favorite does not win, good judging if they do. Happens in every Olympics.
Adelina had the technical edge and thus she won. Plus she skated like she wanted to be there. all smiles and happy. I don't particularly like her style of skating but she won fair and square.
Yuna on the other hand was clean and beautiful but she did not look like she wanted to be there. Kind of just going threw the motions and I thought her Free Skate was boring. It had no oomph and bad chorography.
Caroline I enjoyed the most but she did not have the technical difficulty that she had in the short, which I thought was breathtaking. I am so happy for her that she finally got a Olympic medal.
The skater I am most impressed with is Polina Edmonds. I think she was the one underscored. Being her 1st International Competition and the Olympics besides, she skated beautifully with only the one fall. She and Gracie should have a good rivalry going in the coming years. I also have to hand it Mao for coming back and skating like she did in free skate. She knew she could not medal but she gave it her all and that makes her a winner in my books.

I'm afraid this is not just another one of those times,
Something was that much more obviously wrong with the judging in this event,
I think everybody is aware, Even the ones that say the "Placements are kinda right anyways"

And the behavior of the crowd didn't help the overall feeling,
You can't call people delusional if they were upset with events here, At major events there are always some critical voices,
But this event takes the cake

 

[lupojohn]

Yawn, here we go again. Those mean awful judges. Bad judging when your favorite does not win, good judging if they do. Happens in every Olympics.

You must be kidding. 2006 and 2010 were not like this, so it does NOT happen in every Olympics.

 

[lupojohn]

I'm afraid this is not just another one of those times,
Something was that much more obviously wrong with the judging in this event,
I think everybody is aware, Even the ones that say the "Placements are kinda right anyways"

And the behavior of the crowd didn't help the overall feeling,
You can't call people delusional if they were upset with events here, I'm sorry

We agree on this.

 

[Mista Ekko]

We agree on this.

Let's hug

 

[lupojohn]

Russian and Japanese federation did excactly the same this season

Russians knew what was gonna happen, so they were interchangeable. Japanese have such a strong team, they could afford to send anyone cause they knew if they skated up to potential, they'd be in medal contention.

 

[Mista Ekko]

Russians knew what was gonna happen, so they were interchangeable. Japanese have such a strong team, they could afford to send anyone cause they knew if they skated up to potential, they'd be in medal contention.

Yes but they sent the one who came in 5th

I always knew that day would kill me, But when it was final that Kozuka and Oda were not going, It hurt.

Thank god i love Takahshi too

 

[cptnhastings]

They just showed Ashley's FS again on NBC and I was watching with the protocols on my computer. I don't get the GOE calls on her lutz or her flip-toe-toe combo at all given the other GOE calls for people with similar landings (she got pretty big negatives on both).

Oh well I'm not a judge.

 

[boo69]

Wagner just isn't that great of a skater, and part of the reason why people were pissed Mirai was hosed was precicely because Ashley simply isn't that good and wasn't a medal thread. So, why not just give the berth to the skater that outskated her at Nationals instead of crushing dreams for false hopes... That was the whole point of that "controversy."

Completely agree. And today's free skate just proved that she not deserve that 3rd spot over Mirai.

 

[Meoima]

Yawn, here we go again. Those mean awful judges. Bad judging when your favorite does not win, good judging if they do. Happens in every Olympics.
Adelina had the technical edge and thus she won. Plus she skated like she wanted to be there. all smiles and happy. I don't particularly like her style of skating but she won fair and square.
Yuna on the other hand was clean and beautiful but she did not look like she wanted to be there. Kind of just going threw the motions and I thought her Free Skate was boring. It had no oomph and bad chorography.
Caroline I enjoyed the most but she did not have the technical difficulty that she had in the short, which I thought was breathtaking. I am so happy for her that she finally got a Olympic medal.
The skater I am most impressed with is Polina Edmonds. I think she was the one underscored. Being her 1st International Competition and the Olympics besides, she skated beautifully with only the one fall. She and Gracie should have a good rivalry going in the coming years. I also have to hand it Mao for coming back and skating like she did in free skate. She knew she could not medal but she gave it her all and that makes her a winner in my books.

Your reasoning makes sense to me. I also have the feeling Yuna, despite her clean and beautiful program, looks less motivated than 4 years ago. I feel her program kind of boring and predictable. On the other hand, Adelina skated like she truly want it, she knew to raise the audience's mood when she waved her hand, smart move, I don't know if that help her get high PCS anyways, maybe.
And Mao should have gotten 148 points at least.

 

[crazydreamer]

***? Adelina flubs a jump and beats a clean Yuna and Carolina? That's obscene. She's a bronze medalist as far as I'm concerned (not that my opinion matters, of course).

Besides Adelina's overscoring and Polina's underscoring, though, this was a terrific ladies free skate. Very intense. Such a shame Mao wasn't in the running as well.

Also, rude Russian crowd cheering at the mistakes of non-Russian skaters.