Well said.
2015-16 Grand Prix assignments
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Well said.
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It was a good effort...
Thank you. I tried.
Why for example Chihee Rhee can and other people cannot?
Srsly, as it is a common practice to have fed officials being judges, you folks should stop complaining about specific nations.
Certainly not ideal, but I suspect Korea has far fewer international judges than Russia.
That was just a case i knew... One may check the US judges and european judges for example =D
Given the time and effort it takes to become an international level judge, I suspect that actually most of them, even from a country like the US or Russia with a broad participation base, will have significant relations or connections with their federation, or even hold a position within the organisation. It doesn't mean they are corrupt, and if you insisted that the only people allowed to judge were ones with no connection to anyone else in the figure skating world you'd very quickly run out of judges to fill panels.
ISU Communication 1890. Single and Pair Skating.
Korea has 1 ISU Referee, 3 ISU Judges, 7 International Judges.
Russia has 4 ISU Referees, 10 ISU Judges, 2 International Referees, 11 International Judges.
USA has 6 ISU Referees, 12 ISU Judges, 2 International Referees, 10 International Judges.
Yes, of course.
International and ISU Officials must be National-level Officials before they have International and ISU status. It means close relations with national federations.
They are also most exreienced specialists of figure skating and it is normal that many of them are in leading structures of federations, together with best coaches.
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France has more than two teams with enough level to compete. The problema there is awful Didier and his politics of suffocating french skaters.
The problem with Dance is the reduced field. The category has expanded way too much to keep only 8 teams per event. Coomes/Buckland, Testa/Csolley, Nazarova/Nikitin are also all teams worthy of a 2nd event :/
Yes! And Hurtado & Diaz and Fournier Beaudry/Sorensen. And I would say Paradis & Ouellette could certainly merit at least one! And S&K could fill a second spot with no problem. Dance is much deeper than pairs right now. There's no reason the limit needs to be for both disciplines.
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So about those, you know, GRAND PRIX ASSIGNMENTS...
Right now, I am mainly interested in several showdowns:
Osmond vs. Daleman (SC)
D/R vs. V/T (NHK)
Aaron vs. Brown (SA)
Chan vs. Hanyu (SC)
W/P vs. B/S (SC)
Plus, whether Denis Ten will win his first GP; and if the the French will dominate in ice dance.
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Well that's the problem isn't it?
I can only assume there are enough people who would be happy to take organised courses, training and tests and
become bona fide ISU judges, But in a lot of cases the federations wouldn't "go out of their way" to help anyone make it,
If it meant relinquishing their political control and unity.
Yes, some of these are pretty epic, and a few are only possible outside of the final because of some top skaters/teams being out of competition last season, for whatever reason. (They would normally be top seeds and therefore prevented from competing at the same grand prix event as the other top seeds).
Also, looking forward to
- Asada vs. Radionova vs. Pogorilaya at CoC
- Lipnitskaia vs Tuktamysheva at TEB
- Lipnitskaia vs Medvedeva vs Gold at SA
- Uno vs Ten vs Chan vs Murakami vs Kovtun vs Ge !!!! at TEB
And the return of Kiira Korpi. Hoping she (and Hurtado-Diaz) can somehow get another placement if there's a withdrawal.
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I think that now it can very well be Bobrova/Soloviev vs. Shibutani/Shibutani, as Bobrova/Soloviev are returning after a season off, and Shibutanis will probably have their best FD to date. I think Weaver/Poje will have thought a lot about their program choices and worked very hard to at least keep their position in the top three (which definitely would mean beating such teams as Bobrova/Soloviev, Cappellini/Lanotte, Shibutani/Shibutani and Ilinykh/Zhiganshin who can be potential champions, but are still very new). + It's in Canada.
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And Aaron too. It's going to be incredible. Skate Canada is going to be a great battle at the top, but I think TEB is even deeper! If Kovtun wins this again, I am going to be so ANNOYED. Go Denis!
And I agree with lauravvv about Skate Canada. Could very well turn out to be a three-way battle throughout the season, but I think it's the Shibutanis vs. B&S at SC. No great harm, though, in finishing after W&P in their backyard. Might be a very different story elsewhere. And the Shibs & B&S go head to head again before the GPF. C&L and I&Z have two match-ups as well, though I think it will be interesting to see how strong C&L come out this season at Cup of China against Chock & Bates. Plus W&P will be up against the Italians and I&Z in Russia. Four deep fields in dance. Wish B&S had been assigned Skate America and TEB to even things out for the GPF qualifications, but it's going to give us some great early season match-ups!
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Skate Canada, Cup of China! Wow It is going to be sooo good! Patrick Vs Hanyu in Canada. I can already sense the controversy brimming from the press conferences alone.
I am glad Mao is back. Hopefully with newly inspired programs doing it for the joy of it. When she displays joy on ice, she is positively infectious, and she is likely to have most judges on her side by her default status. Hopefully also keep those inflated PCS in check among the youngsters. Her coming effect on Satoko's status within the federation should be interesting, or will she ends up like a Daisuke when compete with Hanyu.
I am glad Mao is back. Hopefully with newly inspired programs doing it for the joy of it. When she displays joy on ice, she is positively infectious, and she is likely to have most judges on her side by her default status. Hopefully also keep those inflated PCS in check among the youngsters. Her coming effect on Satoko's status within the federation should be interesting, or will she ends up like a Daisuke when compete with Hanyu.
Maxim win when Patrick is in the competition?
Patrick would have to pull a Hanyu-at-CoC... (God forbid)Or a Hanyu-at-NHK. Or a Patrick circa 2010. Or . . .
The whole thing doesn't bear thinking about. Go everyone!
GP assignments Men, top75 of SB.
Pl Score Name Nation Events(1-SA, 2-SC, 3-China, 4-TEB, 5-Rostelecom, 6-NHK) W-two spots because of top12 Worlds, JGP - Junior Grand Prix instead of Grand Prix, R - top24 of World Standing Rating
1 289.46 Denis TEN KAZ 1,4 W R
2 288.58 Yuzuru HANYU JPN 2,6 W R
3 273.90 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 3,5 W R
4 269.09 Tatsuki MACHIDA JPN (retired)
5 263.17 Jason BROWN USA 1,6 W R
6 260.01 Joshua FARRIS USA 2,6 W
7 259.47 Han YAN CHN 1,3 W R
8 256.47 Daisuke MURAKAMI JPN 2,4 R
9 256.45 Shoma UNO JPN 1,4 R
10 255.81 Takahito MURA JPN 1,6 R
11 252.00 Sergei VORONOV RUS 3,5 R
12 243.35 Maxim KOVTUN RUS 4,6 W R
13 242.59 Nam NGUYEN CAN 2,5 W R
14 241.23 Michal BREZINA CZE 2,6 R
15 240.22 Max AARON USA 1,4 R
16 238.05 Misha GE UZB 3,4 W R
17 237.28 Richard DORNBUSH USA 3,6 R
18 233.22 Konstantin MENSHOV RUS 1,6 R
19 231.67 Stephen CARRIERE USA (RETIRED)
20 231.53 Alexander PETROV RUS 2,4 R
21 229.71 Adam RIPPON USA 2,5 W R
22 229.70 Boyang JIN CHN 3,6 R
23 229.65 Jeremy ABBOTT USA (not to compete at GP this season)
24 229.62 Florent AMODIO FRA 1,4 W
25 227.26 Ross MINER USA 5
26 222.69 Takahiko KOZUKA JPN 3,5 W R
27 220.22 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 1,5 R
28 219.82 Grant HOCHSTEIN USA 3
29 219.38 Adian PITKEEV RUS 1,5 R
30 215.45 Sota YAMAMOTO JPN
31 214.76 Yi WANG CHN 4
32 214.36 Ronald LAM HKG 2
33 213.85 Nathan CHEN USA
34 213.57 Peter LIEBERS GER 2,5 R
35 213.38 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI 3
36 212.64 Jeremy TEN CAN (RETIRED)
37 212.50 Elladj BALDE CAN 6
38 211.24 Chafik BESSEGHIER FRA 6
39 210.75 Ivan RIGHINI ITA 5
40 209.93 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR 3
41 207.77 Moris KVITELASHVILI RUS 3
42 207.34 Jin Seo KIM KOR
43 206.55 Gordei GORSHKOV RUS
44 204.48 Douglas RAZZANO USA (RETIRED)
45 203.92 June Hyoung LEE KOR 2 R
46 202.73 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT
47 202.68 Andrei LAZUKIN RUS
48 202.57 Alexander MAJOROV SWE 5
49 202.40 Andrei ROGOZINE CAN
50 201.74 Andrew TORGASHEV USA (JGP)
51 201.70 Alexander SAMARIN RUS
52 201.26 Artur GACHINSKI RUS
53 199.81 Liam FIRUS CAN
54 196.93 Timothy DOLENSKY USA
55 196.60 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN
56 196.20 He ZHANG CHN
57 194.60 Yaroslav PANIOT UKR
58 194.57 Brendan KERRY AUS 1
59 193.44 Denis MARGALIK ARG
60 193.06 Alexander JOHNSON USA
61 192.44 Roman SADOVSKY CAN
62 189.82 Dmitri ALIEV RUS
63 189.81 Jordan MOELLER USA
64 189.50 Sei KAWAHARA JPN
65 189.28 Artur DMITRIEV RUS
66 189.26 Keiji TANAKA JPN
67 187.82 Petr COUFAL CZE
68 187.42 Nan SONG CHN
69 186.18 Franz STREUBEL GER
70 184.51 Phillip HARRIS GBR
71 184.12 Romain PONSART FRA 4 (home spot)
72 182.78 Murad KURBANOV RUS
73 180.66 Martin RAPPE GER
74 178.46 Chih-I TSAO TPE
75 177.66 Yuhang GUAN CHN
Pl Score Name Nation Events(1-SA, 2-SC, 3-China, 4-TEB, 5-Rostelecom, 6-NHK) W-two spots because of top12 Worlds, JGP - Junior Grand Prix instead of Grand Prix, R - top24 of World Standing Rating
1 289.46 Denis TEN KAZ 1,4 W R
2 288.58 Yuzuru HANYU JPN 2,6 W R
3 273.90 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 3,5 W R
4 269.09 Tatsuki MACHIDA JPN (retired)
5 263.17 Jason BROWN USA 1,6 W R
6 260.01 Joshua FARRIS USA 2,6 W
7 259.47 Han YAN CHN 1,3 W R
8 256.47 Daisuke MURAKAMI JPN 2,4 R
9 256.45 Shoma UNO JPN 1,4 R
10 255.81 Takahito MURA JPN 1,6 R
11 252.00 Sergei VORONOV RUS 3,5 R
12 243.35 Maxim KOVTUN RUS 4,6 W R
13 242.59 Nam NGUYEN CAN 2,5 W R
14 241.23 Michal BREZINA CZE 2,6 R
15 240.22 Max AARON USA 1,4 R
16 238.05 Misha GE UZB 3,4 W R
17 237.28 Richard DORNBUSH USA 3,6 R
18 233.22 Konstantin MENSHOV RUS 1,6 R
19 231.67 Stephen CARRIERE USA (RETIRED)
20 231.53 Alexander PETROV RUS 2,4 R
21 229.71 Adam RIPPON USA 2,5 W R
22 229.70 Boyang JIN CHN 3,6 R
23 229.65 Jeremy ABBOTT USA (not to compete at GP this season)
24 229.62 Florent AMODIO FRA 1,4 W
25 227.26 Ross MINER USA 5
26 222.69 Takahiko KOZUKA JPN 3,5 W R
27 220.22 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 1,5 R
28 219.82 Grant HOCHSTEIN USA 3
29 219.38 Adian PITKEEV RUS 1,5 R
30 215.45 Sota YAMAMOTO JPN
31 214.76 Yi WANG CHN 4
32 214.36 Ronald LAM HKG 2
33 213.85 Nathan CHEN USA
34 213.57 Peter LIEBERS GER 2,5 R
35 213.38 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI 3
36 212.64 Jeremy TEN CAN (RETIRED)
37 212.50 Elladj BALDE CAN 6
38 211.24 Chafik BESSEGHIER FRA 6
39 210.75 Ivan RIGHINI ITA 5
40 209.93 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR 3
41 207.77 Moris KVITELASHVILI RUS 3
42 207.34 Jin Seo KIM KOR
43 206.55 Gordei GORSHKOV RUS
44 204.48 Douglas RAZZANO USA (RETIRED)
45 203.92 June Hyoung LEE KOR 2 R
46 202.73 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT
47 202.68 Andrei LAZUKIN RUS
48 202.57 Alexander MAJOROV SWE 5
49 202.40 Andrei ROGOZINE CAN
50 201.74 Andrew TORGASHEV USA (JGP)
51 201.70 Alexander SAMARIN RUS
52 201.26 Artur GACHINSKI RUS
53 199.81 Liam FIRUS CAN
54 196.93 Timothy DOLENSKY USA
55 196.60 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN
56 196.20 He ZHANG CHN
57 194.60 Yaroslav PANIOT UKR
58 194.57 Brendan KERRY AUS 1
59 193.44 Denis MARGALIK ARG
60 193.06 Alexander JOHNSON USA
61 192.44 Roman SADOVSKY CAN
62 189.82 Dmitri ALIEV RUS
63 189.81 Jordan MOELLER USA
64 189.50 Sei KAWAHARA JPN
65 189.28 Artur DMITRIEV RUS
66 189.26 Keiji TANAKA JPN
67 187.82 Petr COUFAL CZE
68 187.42 Nan SONG CHN
69 186.18 Franz STREUBEL GER
70 184.51 Phillip HARRIS GBR
71 184.12 Romain PONSART FRA 4 (home spot)
72 182.78 Murad KURBANOV RUS
73 180.66 Martin RAPPE GER
74 178.46 Chih-I TSAO TPE
75 177.66 Yuhang GUAN CHN
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