Why three spots? There is seven places for JGP spots if you want each of them to have two spots.
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Why three spots? There is seven places for JGP spots if you want each of them to have two spots.
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Thanks you so much for answering my question regarding Yevgeny. I love learning things about some of the people I've been lucky enough to meet and admire. I certainly loved watching Mr. Kafelnikov play tennis.
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I think this is referring to junior worlds? It'll be interesting to watch them...
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No difference than seniors though we can find flaws. Julia, Liza and Adelina having all technical problems. Leonova not able to skate under pressure. Anna the head case. The fighter Rad who squeaks out her jumps right now as she deals with a huge growth. Mediocre Medeveva. This is a team that with some luck could steal the podium this year at world's (senior) OR have no one - unlikely but... you never know Mao, Ashley, Gracie, Miyahara and Polina. Which reminds me when is the last time the US had a ladies medallist on the podium? I can't believe it must have been a while - surely not 2006 and Kimmie Meissner? Well I think Cohen had retired after that Olympics. And we know Mirai, Gracie, Rachel, Alissa, Ashley, Caroline Z, Agnes,et al have no senior world medals. Surely I missed someone? If not maybe 2016 is the year we can "And the streak is over!"
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Your negative posting has a surprisingly enlightening effect on me. 
Sasha won WC medals '04,'05, and '06 if I'm not mistaken.
Sasha won WC medals '04,'05, and '06 if I'm not mistaken.
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Reading this thread feels like watching a weird version of Oprah: you're mediocre, you're mediocre, everyone is mediocre!
The funny thing is, back when Medvedeva, Sakhanovich, Sotskova and Proklova were competing in juniors, I never would have guessed that Evgenia would lead the pack, yet look at her! I'm looking forward to seeing her at Worlds, backloading, tanos and all that. I wonder about Proklova, is she still injured? I'd love to see her competing again.
The funny thing is, back when Medvedeva, Sakhanovich, Sotskova and Proklova were competing in juniors, I never would have guessed that Evgenia would lead the pack, yet look at her! I'm looking forward to seeing her at Worlds, backloading, tanos and all that. I wonder about Proklova, is she still injured? I'd love to see her competing again.
Proklova is back training on ice not long ago. But I don't know about her next season: will she stay in juniors or go senior? On the junior level the competition will be tough.
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Tarusina, Panenkova, Mukhortova, Samodurova for sure. Especially Tarusina - strong and stable.
May be Pavlova, Gulyakova, Mitrofanova, Kurakova, Zagitova too.
We see "blood bath" for JGP spots next season at this season competitions - Junior Nationals, Nationals Younger Age, Moscow and StPetersburg qualifiers to Nationals Younger an Elder age. Will see at Nationals Elder age.
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Your negative posting has a surprisingly enlightening effect on me.
Sasha won WC medals '04,'05, and '06 if I'm not mistaken.
Correct. After being 4th in her debut Worlds in 2002 and 4th again in 2003, Sasha won silver in 2004 & 2005 and bronze in 2006. No US lady won either World or Olympic medal since.
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Your negative posting has a surprisingly enlightening effect on me.
True but all prior o 2006 so it is time Gracie, Polina and AShley win a world medal or two
if you notice Tuk didnt went downward only this year, her career has always been up and down. and no she took the drug last year when it was still legal.
you sound like in hysteria. of course Radionova, Medvedeva and others are doping
they competed at Europeans and where is their memo after their test result
this is not a rumor, this is a fact. russian training involves strict diet like in RG.
unless WADA wants to make charge of what to eat, when to drink water (russian training is very strict in drinking water). it is every federations right what they make of diet, but I guess it must be off putting for americans to have strict diet regimen as most get huge food intake compared to other countries ?
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Excuse me, could you elaborate? I hope water intake is not restricted, only regulated. :eekn:
its not restricted. yes its regulated. this is common that in training to not drink too much water as to not succumb the body to be dependent on rehydration
in some strict training. fatty foods and sweets like chocolates are prohibited. I think there was some time back in russian forum were complaining that Tuk ate too much ice cream.
I seriously hope that none of the Russian ladies has been given meldonium at Europeans. We don't know right now, because the B samples aren't evaluated and Russian skaters could have requested to have the B sample tested after a positive A sample test. We simply don't know.
But we all should be troubled if one of those three girls was given meldonium by a team sports doctor. They're all underage. For me it would be a no-go.
And I wouldn't blame Elizaveta, she's very young and undoubtetly a sports doctor gave her meldonium when she was younger than 18. She's also a victim and I don't think that her achievements last year were solely due to that drug. But it might be affecting her performances that she probably thinks that she would perform better using it, because of that psychological impact that this drug also has.
But we all should be troubled if one of those three girls was given meldonium by a team sports doctor. They're all underage. For me it would be a no-go.
And I wouldn't blame Elizaveta, she's very young and undoubtetly a sports doctor gave her meldonium when she was younger than 18. She's also a victim and I don't think that her achievements last year were solely due to that drug. But it might be affecting her performances that she probably thinks that she would perform better using it, because of that psychological impact that this drug also has.
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Thank you for your explanation, sneakers. I hope that they are allowed to drink plenty of water outside of training, because dehydration sounds scary to me.
On the other hand, prohibiting sweets is not shocking at all. However, I think that in general too strict a diet is not very good: after all, we need ALL of the nutrients to some extent (yes, even carbohydrates). The food pyramid is what I'm talking about: I was told by a nutritionist that sweets and alcohol are the only things you can easily do without, whereas for the rest, your body needs smaller or greater quantities of everything. I understand that athletes have special needs, but they exercise A LOT more than the average person (and figure skaters do that in the cold!). Furthermore, if you don't eat enough, your metabolism slows down, so your body ends up burning calories less quickly.
Of course, skaters' staff must know what they're doing, still I mistrust draconian diets, and I would prefer skaters to be allowed to get personalized diets. For example , Daisuke Takahashi used to have his nutritionist cook for him for the whole week and leave the food, already portioned out, in his fridge.
On the other hand, prohibiting sweets is not shocking at all. However, I think that in general too strict a diet is not very good: after all, we need ALL of the nutrients to some extent (yes, even carbohydrates). The food pyramid is what I'm talking about: I was told by a nutritionist that sweets and alcohol are the only things you can easily do without, whereas for the rest, your body needs smaller or greater quantities of everything. I understand that athletes have special needs, but they exercise A LOT more than the average person (and figure skaters do that in the cold!). Furthermore, if you don't eat enough, your metabolism slows down, so your body ends up burning calories less quickly.
Of course, skaters' staff must know what they're doing, still I mistrust draconian diets, and I would prefer skaters to be allowed to get personalized diets. For example , Daisuke Takahashi used to have his nutritionist cook for him for the whole week and leave the food, already portioned out, in his fridge.
Or maybe because people here are just busy? Assumption much? Im not sure if you are aware but melodonium was only banned effectively Jan.1 2016. SO anyone who used it prior to that was LEGALLY using it whether it was intended for its exact purpose or its other beneficial effects. And can you enlighten us where are you getting these rumors about the russian girl's diet? And importantly what's controversial about it?? Michael Phelps consumes atleast 12,000 calories a day and even increased it up to 15,000 calories. If i remember correctly, gymnast Chelsea Memmel only eats a fruit and chicken while Koko tsurumi only eats sashimi and watermelon and their diets are with water restrction. And by the way most athlete's choice of fruit is watermelon and banana. Extreme diet for top athletes are not uncommon and usually "unhealthy" if you compare it to a normal regular person so unless an athlete's diet consist of gold or some mythical berry then don't be surprise.
weight however is closely tied with figure skating, gymnastics etc in russia. the need to lose weight that is why it is not uncommon to hear even coaches the likes of Tarasova, Averbukh, Tutberidze, Pavlova have been quoted as saying certain skaters weight impacts their performance and career. The russian quick secret to success is diet and losing weight. Elena herself is on a voluntary srtict diet she has. Julia in Sochi was mostly on powder to control her weight.
but extreme diet is done by athletes not just in russia. Also there is nothing in WADA on what kind of diet they should eat
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