That's a good point, and one that's also true of gymnastics, where individual athletes have to compete with each other as teammates in the team event, supporting and drawing on each other, and then against each other as competitors in the individual all-around and apparatus finals. Heck, the team event also serves as qualifying for the individual events, so you have to learn to support your teammates to do their best so your team can medal, even though that best may cost you a chance to compete for a medal in a later event. No wonder gymnasts often seem to have such a laser focus while they're competing. Not only might individual skaters benefit from training alongside fellow athletes who can give them a real sense of where the competitive bar is on a regular basis, but skating is adding more team events. Skaters will need to develop a similar ability to compartmentalize and to handle these mixed emotions, and that mental toughness would presumably carry over to their individual events.
2015-16 State of U.S. Ladies skating
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That's a good point, and one that's also true of gymnastics, where individual athletes have to compete with each other as teammates in the team event, supporting and drawing on each other, and then against each other as competitors in the individual all-around and apparatus finals. Heck, the team event also serves as qualifying for the individual events, so you have to learn to support your teammates to do their best so your team can medal, even though that best may cost you a chance to compete for a medal in a later event. No wonder gymnasts often seem to have such a laser focus while they're competing. Not only might individual skaters benefit from training alongside fellow athletes who can give them a real sense of where the competitive bar is on a regular basis, but skating is adding more team events. Skaters will need to develop a similar ability to compartmentalize and to handle these mixed emotions, and that mental toughness would presumably carry over to their individual events.
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Seriously!!!! Well, I hope everything go's smoothly because this sounds like a scandal in the making......
What the...?!
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That's actually good news. It means the key players will be more likely to win based on how they perform. I mean, ideally there would be no Japanese judge either but the lack of Russian and US judges at least means there won't be insanely high PCS. Satoko is underscored anyways so any favours given to her by the Japanese judge would probably just give her the scores she deserves (at least relative to the Russians).
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Don't get mad. IMO, Satoko doesn't deserve PCS marks as high as Med's or Ashley's. This certainly will make things interesting.
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I am not sure everyone would agree she is overscored. Fair or not it takes skaters time to up their scores, arguably deserved or not, besides, she seems to constantly get generous marks for tes/goes in respect to he heigh of her jumps and prerotations. she does turn fast but that is no a huge bullet point. In respect to Gracie even with a misake (minor) in the short she still could win a medal The judges are ready if she performs. I am thinking one of her, Ashley or Mao are going to get it together for worlds. I would rather see Miyhara, Evgenia or Rad win as they have been consistent his year but life isn't fair; it comes down to two performances.
as far as the judges with one being a canadian, japanese, korean,
i can see both candians despite messing up finishing ahead of clean u.s.
even though all 3 u.s. ladies skate better than them.
I should point out both canadians ladies , korean, has to skate clean to be in the top 10.
the u.s. , japan, russia can skate a little sloppy in the short and finish ahead of all of the the others.
i just hope that they judge fairly, in other words if one is taken off for ur's in the short and looked closely at they all should not just one.
Or the skaters that are known for it. Why the young russian skaters appear to skate better is the fact it appears spin fast on their jumps so their landings don't appear ur or close from any tv and/or judges angle.
They are alot of times the skaters ur in front of the tv camera angle but not from the judges point of view.
i can see both candians despite messing up finishing ahead of clean u.s.
even though all 3 u.s. ladies skate better than them.
I should point out both canadians ladies , korean, has to skate clean to be in the top 10.
the u.s. , japan, russia can skate a little sloppy in the short and finish ahead of all of the the others.
i just hope that they judge fairly, in other words if one is taken off for ur's in the short and looked closely at they all should not just one.
Or the skaters that are known for it. Why the young russian skaters appear to skate better is the fact it appears spin fast on their jumps so their landings don't appear ur or close from any tv and/or judges angle.
They are alot of times the skaters ur in front of the tv camera angle but not from the judges point of view.
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I don't think one judge will make a difference. When skaters get a home advantage it is likely due to the audience reaction. The Americans and the Russians will still get great scores if they skate well.
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Is that confirmed anywhere? Actually, I'll like that.
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Consider the past 2 years had ALL European panels in a row for the ladies. This is only a slight improvement. Surprised there's no US judges though... are all the other 5 judges European? Ukraine among them? Who's the tech caller?
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This is how Kori Ade's group works. They have weekly performance days when they are judged. And she wants to improve figure skating in the US.
FWIW, Wagner said in today's US World Team Hangout Session that she has recovered from a hard fall she took during a show a couple of weeks ago - she claims that 3-3s are strong and the only thing left is "repetition" - take it for what it's worth
I'll believe it when I see it, of course
I'll believe it when I see it, of course
For the Russian ladies i think this is probably the worst combination ever. LOL
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FWIW, Wagner said in today's US World Team Hangout Session that she has recovered from a hard fall she took during a show a couple of weeks ago - she claims that 3-3s are strong and the only thing left is "repetition" - take it for what it's worth
I'll believe it when I see it, of course
She must be referring to the unfortunate splat she took at the Skate Niagara ice show on February 26th. I'm glad to hear she's better, as I was really worried for her at the show.
