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I love Kolyada. He was such a charmer and a crowd favorite at Worlds. I had such a hard time deciding where to put him in my Predictions Game list!
2016-17 State of Russian Ladies skating
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I love Kolyada. He was such a charmer and a crowd favorite at Worlds. I had such a hard time deciding where to put him in my Predictions Game list!
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IMO, Yulia should skate for as long as she is happy. I do not think she will lack opportunities, even being inconsistent. In fact, I think it is possible that she receives more invitations, because right now she does not (unfortunately) pose a podium threat, but she's got so many fans who will pay to see her, regardless of how she performs, and figure skating could use this money. And it is possible that this "you can go, but we expect nothing" will be good for her: Being able to compete without pressure.
It is your attitude that needs changing, not everyone's "poor Yulia". Because there are users here who are not her fans, but one can notice that when someone is in such blatant pain, you feel sorry for them. It is scary to see someone suddenly limp and cry, especially if you are performing a similar content after them. It would be much more upsetting to see the audience and other skaters looking bored and rolling their eyes.
It is your attitude that needs changing, not everyone's "poor Yulia". Because there are users here who are not her fans, but one can notice that when someone is in such blatant pain, you feel sorry for them. It is scary to see someone suddenly limp and cry, especially if you are performing a similar content after them. It would be much more upsetting to see the audience and other skaters looking bored and rolling their eyes.
I've rewatched Elena's FS and here's my thoughts:
- i'm trying to understand the dress: it is supposed to be Elena being Elena instead of Turandot in the opera, so the lyrics is related to her. It is a little strange but i've to say, definitely not as bad as Titanic FS;
- The program is a little unbalanced: there are several jumps in the second half all at once, because it's all related with the crescendo of the music (similar to Tarasova's Piano Concerto no.2) and it is very effective when those jumps are landed, but at the same time if the timing isn't right, the magic is lost. Considering Elena's shaky landings and her actual shape they might consider to change the layout but i hope not.
- I think it's the first time a russian skater uses Turandot.
- Who choreographed it? Wikipedia says that Shae choreo just the short.
- i'm trying to understand the dress: it is supposed to be Elena being Elena instead of Turandot in the opera, so the lyrics is related to her. It is a little strange but i've to say, definitely not as bad as Titanic FS;
- The program is a little unbalanced: there are several jumps in the second half all at once, because it's all related with the crescendo of the music (similar to Tarasova's Piano Concerto no.2) and it is very effective when those jumps are landed, but at the same time if the timing isn't right, the magic is lost. Considering Elena's shaky landings and her actual shape they might consider to change the layout but i hope not.
- I think it's the first time a russian skater uses Turandot.
- Who choreographed it? Wikipedia says that Shae choreo just the short.
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Yulia should skate as long as wants to. She isn't taking anything away from anyone else by continuing to compete. I doubt the most vocal "they should just quit" individuals are elite athletes themselves.
Moving on, Anna is on fire this year. She has a confidence that I haven't seen in her before. I'm not worried she is going to fall when she jumps like I was before (and she has long been my favorite Russian lady). Russian nationals is going to be a bloodbath.
Moving on, Anna is on fire this year. She has a confidence that I haven't seen in her before. I'm not worried she is going to fall when she jumps like I was before (and she has long been my favorite Russian lady). Russian nationals is going to be a bloodbath.
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A leg cramp is very painful. I get them occasionally and can barely stop myself from crying out in pain when they first "strike."
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I agree with Manitou in one point. Almost three years Yulia had no one good FS. I'm always excited before her competitions, and I'm waiting.. waiting... waiting for that euphoria what I felt in 2014. Her jumps aren't good, but I could forget it if I see the fire in her. I don't see she enjoys what she is doing and she can't express me happiness. If you remember Anna had so many big falls but she stood up, fought for the figure skating, fought for her development. Now I enjoy the other Russian girls' ( Liza, Elena, Anna, Maria, Zhenya, Polina!!! ) skating much more as Yulia's skating .
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I definitely see some fight and joy in Yulia ever since she has moved to Urmanov. Sure, she hasn't been extremely successful yet, but she's attempting new styles of programs that she's learning to express very well and she often looks happy when finishing her performance. She obviously has a great relationship with Alexei. I think the jumps will come with time as long as she continues to train hard. She might never be the best or most consistent jumper in the world, but I could imagine her having some Ashley Wagner type of success (but with better spins) in the future. A mature lady who works her butt off to rework jump technique while being one of the best performers in the sport.
This is exactly what I feel too. During her FS I feel from her big fear and this is blocking her from enjoing skate and expressivity. If she would let go this fear , it would help her so much. But I know it's not easy.
On the other hand I think her jumps got better , more consistent , she doesn't pop them as she used to many times before. But I wish they would work more on her expressivity to play for the audience , to let her come out of the nutshell she is now.
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On what basis do you make such prediction? One's personality usually plays a big part in his/her career development. Compared to Julia, Liza is a very cheerful & optimistic girl who could overcome those "growing pains" more effectively and more successfully. I think Liza suffered more than Julia did during her growing period. Failing to make either the Olympic or Worlds team is undoubtedly a big blow to any ambitious young lady, but Liza still could bounce back with a bang! :2thumbs: In a sense, Julia is overly spoilt by the Federation as well as by the skating fans. I don't want to blame her for that, to be honest, but some over-dramatic situation is going on and on off the ice, which is not pleasing to both the eyes and the heart at all.
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I was happy to see Yulia's face more relaxed this year, but as for more expression, that might only be possible to an extent. From what I've heard, she's quite introverted and a perfectonist, which -for me- explains the guarded, concentrated face that I see her wear in competition. Expressiveness that is not authentic tends to be recognizable as such. If I was to choose between watching Yulia with subdued expression and Yulia with forced expression, I'd prefer the former.
Anyone has a fighting spirit within themselves. So does Yulia regardless of the situation. Time will tell. She still hasn't given up, and regardless of the incidents this season so far, I find she can still make European/world teams if she continues to fight.
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She looked great in her recent SP and in the LP until she had her physical issue. Still, it's hard for me to see her displacing any of the women from last year's team. Evgenia, Anna, and Elena are all very solid competitors and now have a substantial PCS edge over Julia too. Maybe Julia can marry an American and have our 3rd spot
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Hey, I'm OK with that.
She looked great in her recent SP and in the LP until she had her physical issue. Still, it's hard for me to see her displacing any of the women from last year's team. Evgenia, Anna, and Elena are all very solid competitors and now have a substantial PCS edge over Julia too. Maybe Julia can marry an American and have our 3rd spot
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As a mad fan of Kolyada I am soo happy to hear that!!! Please look up his fan thread if you like. I'll try to revive the Russian Men thread in the coming days - too busy at the moment working to a deadline.
Finally Russians are raising the bar! Not only tanos, rippons or backloading... In the last two years we have seen again 3Lz+3Lo, even in the second half (Gubanova, Zagitova); 3Lz+3T+2T (Gubanova, Curskaja). The next steps are quads or triple axels!
In my opinion, the pioneers will be in this group..
Class of 2019/2020 (born in the second half of 2003/first half of 2004): Aleksandra Trusova/Anna Ščerbakova (MOS, Eteri Tutberidze); Anastasija Tarakanova (MOS, Svetlana Panova); Viktorija Vasil'eva (MOS, Viktorija Volčkova).
Class of 2020/2021 (born in the second half of 2004/first half of 2005): Jasmina Kadyrova (SPB, Artur Gačinskij); Sof'ja Moroz (SPB, Alina Pisarenko).
Class of 2012/2022 (born in the second half of 2005/first half of 2006): Alëna Kanyševa (MOS, Svetlana Panova); Anfisa Ryabova (TAT, Ksenija Ivanova).
In my opinion, the pioneers will be in this group..
Class of 2019/2020 (born in the second half of 2003/first half of 2004): Aleksandra Trusova/Anna Ščerbakova (MOS, Eteri Tutberidze); Anastasija Tarakanova (MOS, Svetlana Panova); Viktorija Vasil'eva (MOS, Viktorija Volčkova).
Class of 2020/2021 (born in the second half of 2004/first half of 2005): Jasmina Kadyrova (SPB, Artur Gačinskij); Sof'ja Moroz (SPB, Alina Pisarenko).
Class of 2012/2022 (born in the second half of 2005/first half of 2006): Alëna Kanyševa (MOS, Svetlana Panova); Anfisa Ryabova (TAT, Ksenija Ivanova).
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Kanysheva born in 15 June 2005. She will be eligible for 18/19 JGP and for 20/21 in seniors.
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