2017 Worlds Men pre-event thread
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For the SP predictions, it might be interesting to look at the SP Season's Best results so far: http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/sb2016-17/sbtsmsp.htm
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Yeah, but not all of those skaters are going to be there.
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Well, yes, just mentally remove those who won't for a list of 24 best scores this season from those who will be at Worlds. It's just for an idea of what the lowest score could be.
Edit to help out:
Season's Best SP Scores of Men that'll be going to Worlds
Updated to remove Han Yan :sad21:
1 106.53 Yuzuru HANYU JPN ISU Grand Prix Final 2016/17 08.12.2016
2 104.25 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP ISU European Championships 2017 27.01.2017
3 103.12 Nathan CHEN USA ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 17.02.2017
4 100.28 Shoma UNO JPN ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 17.02.2017
5 99.76 Patrick CHAN CAN ISU Grand Prix Final 2016/17 08.12.2016
6 96.17 Boyang JIN CHN ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2016 18.11.2016
7 94.53 Maxim KOVTUN RUS ISU European Championships 2017 27.01.2017
8 90.28 Mikhail KOLYADA RUS ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2016 04.11.2016
9 89.21 Denis TEN KAZ ISU GP Trophee de France 2016 11.11.2016
10 86.81 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2016 04.11.2016
11 85.75 Jason BROWN USA ISU GP 2016 Progressive Skate America 22.10.2016
12 82.50 Jorik HENDRICKX BEL ISU European Championships 2017 27.01.2017
13 81.85 Misha GE UZB ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 17.02.2017
14 80.68 Chafik BESSEGHIER FRA ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2016 04.11.2016
15 80.57 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN ISU GP Skate Canada International 2016 28.10.2016
16 80.49 Keiji TANAKA JPN ISU GP NHK Trophy 2016 25.11.2016
17 79.87 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT ISU European Championships 2017 27.01.2017
18 78.90 Alexander MAJOROV SWE ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2016 19.11.2016
19 78.61 Michal BREZINA CZE ISU European Championships 2017 27.01.2017
20 78.11 Brendan KERRY AUS ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 17.02.2017
21 76.85 Moris KVITELASHVILI GEO ISU European Championships 2017 27.01.2017
22 72.68 Paul FENTZ GER ISU European Championships 2017 27.01.2017
23 72.59 Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS ISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 2016 22.09.2016
24 72.47 Michael C. MARTINEZ PHI ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 17.02.2017
25 72.46 Javier RAYA ESP ISU CS Golden Spin 2016 07.12.2016
26 70.80 Graham NEWBERRY GBR ISU World Junior Championships 2017 15.03.2017
27 70.58 Stephane WALKER SUI ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2016 19.11.2016
28 69.85 Igor REZNICHENKO POL ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2016 19.11.2016
29 68.94 Ivan PAVLOV UKR ISU European Championships 2017 27.01.2017
30 68.53 Matteo RIZZO ITA ISU World Junior Championships 2017 15.03.2017
31 67.16 Yuhang GUAN CHN Winter Universiade 2017
32 64.26 Jinseo KIM KOR ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 17.02.2017
33 63.55 Larry LOUPOLOVER AZE ISU CS Tallinn Trophy 2016 23.11.2016
34 63.17 Chih-I TSAO TPE ISU World Junior Championships 2017 15.03.2017
35 61.71 Nicholas VRDOLJAK CRO ISU CS Autumn Classic International 2016 30.09.2016
36 61.70 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM ISU CS Golden Spin 2016 07.12.2016
37 58.22 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN ISU CS Tallinn Trophy 2016 23.11.2016
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OK, the dreaded and unmentionable subsequent post, but since it has *nothing* to do with my previous post.
I don't know what these numbers are for (truly, I skipped the original post, figured it was BV or quads or some such)
But I'm going to put one out there because I think it would be wonderful if I got it, whatever it is....
69.13
Cause I like those numbers
Thank you for playing.
Updated
GF2445 says 75.0
Marin says 73.04
TontoK 72.5
Liha 72.24
sallycinnamon says 72.0
Snow White says 71.80
4everchan 71.43
xeyra says 70.70
LRK says 70.0
d6886 says 69.89
da96103 says 69.5
el henry says 69.13
jabberwocky18 says 68.70
Florencito says 68.19
L'Kitsu says 67.89
Ares says 67.67
karne says 67.38
Mango says 67.0
randomfan says 66.83
Neenah16 says 66.6
teeannroo says 65.35
Mathman says 65.00
Marius says 63.99
A little information to help you.
http://www.isuresults.com/results/se...016/SEG001.HTM
This is last year's SP result.
No. 24 was Ivan Pavlov from Ukraine with 65.20
More people are joining in.
Most of you think that this year's crop of men are better than last year's. Two of you think that they'll do worse. Perhaps MOHIR is gonna grab all those delicious 3A's being offered.
Guess/Deduce/Estimate the lowest SP score to qualify for FS at the Worlds.
Reply to this post and I will update.
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Could you please do it for the Men's FP as well?
Oh my sentimental fave :sad21:
Not unexpected, but sad all the same. I was looking forward to seeing him.
PS. doesn't the qualification score prediction game deserve a thread of its own?
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Sure, but the FS is a strange beast, with everyone constantly doing so many changes to their layouts through the season.
Here it goes, if I didn't make any mistake.
FS Season Best Scores of Men at Worlds:
Updated to remove Han Yan :sad21:
1 206.67 Yuzuru HANYU JPN ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 19.02.2017
2 204.34 Nathan CHEN USA ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 19.02.2017
3 201.43 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2016 05.11.2016
4 196.31 Patrick CHAN CAN ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2016 19.11.2016
5 195.69 Shoma UNO JPN ISU Grand Prix Final 2016/17 10.12.2016
6 182.63 Jason BROWN USA ISU GP 2016 Progressive Skate America 23.10.2016
7 182.37 Boyang JIN CHN ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2016 19.11.2016
8 180.05 Denis TEN KAZ ISU GP Trophee de France 2016 12.11.2016
9 172.27 Maxim KOVTUN RUS ISU European Championships 2017 28.01.2017
10 168.71 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2016 05.11.2016
11 167.95 Keiji TANAKA JPN ISU GP NHK Trophy 2016 26.11.2016
12 166.22 Mikhail KOLYADA RUS ISU European Championships 2017 28.01.2017
13 164.49 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN ISU GP Skate Canada International 2016 29.10.2016
14 161.35 Moris KVITELASHVILI GEO ISU European Championships 2017 28.01.2017
15 160.06 Jorik HENDRICKX BEL ISU European Championships 2017 28.01.2017
16 157.56 Misha GE UZB ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 19.02.2017
17 157.06 Michal BREZINA CZE ISU GP Skate Canada International 2016 29.10.2016
18 155.33 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT ISU European Championships 2017 28.01.2017
19 153.17 Paul FENTZ GER ISU European Championships 2017 28.01.2017
20 151.40 Chafik BESSEGHIER FRA ISU European Championships 2017 28.01.2017
21 150.07 Alexander MAJOROV SWE ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2016 20.11.2016
22 149.28 Brendan KERRY AUS ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 19.02.2017
23 141.85 Yuhang GUAN CHN Winter Universiade 2017
24 141.68 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 19.02.2017
25 139.68 Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS ISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 2016 23.09.2016
26 138.55 Stephane WALKER SUI ISU CS Ondrej Nepela Memorial 2016 01.10.2016
27 134.47 Ivan PAVLOV UKR ISU JGP Czech Skate 2016 03.09.2016
28 130.79 Jinseo KIM KOR ISU Four Continents Championships 2017 19.02.2017
29 130.58 Igor REZNICHENKO POL ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2016 20.11.2016
30 130.32 Javier RAYA ESP ISU CS Autumn Classic International 2016 29.09.2016
31 130.27 Graham NEWBERRY GBR ISU European Championships 2017 28.01.2017
32 129.48 Matteo RIZZO ITA ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2016 20.11.2016
33 125.57 Nicholas VRDOLJAK CRO ISU CS Autumn Classic International 2016 29.09.2016
34 120.09 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM ISU European Championships 2017 28.01.2017
35 118.72 Chih-I TSAO TPE ISU World Junior Championships 2017 16.03.2017
36 116.67 Larry LOUPOLOVER AZE ISU CS Tallinn Trophy 2016 24.11.2016
37 115.14 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN ISU CS Tallinn Trophy 2016 24.11.2016
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I'm starting to rethink my guess. While I think the top men have greatly increased BV and are doing the harder elements better, I'm not sure that great improvements have been realized further down the ladder.
In essence, I'm guessing that the last man in will increase score by about 7 points over the last man in a year ago. I now think that's too high.
But, what the heck, I've already bought my lottery ticket, and fair is fair. I'm sticking with it.
In essence, I'm guessing that the last man in will increase score by about 7 points over the last man in a year ago. I now think that's too high.
But, what the heck, I've already bought my lottery ticket, and fair is fair. I'm sticking with it.
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Ah, but then you check the SP SB scores and you see this:
24 72.59 Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS
And what do you know, it is about 7 points higher than the SP score cutout at 2016 Worlds. Maybe you're onto something!
Of course, not everyone is gonna have their SB at Worlds... so it's a gamble.
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* Who will win?
Shoma
* Who will get on the podium?
Shoma, Hanyu, Nathan
* How many landed with plus GOE quads will we get?
Probably a lot
* Who are you excited to see at Worlds?
Shoma, Boyang, Javi, Deniss, Misha, Mikhail, Moris
Plus your predictions, quandaries, concerns, anxieties, excitements on placements, quads, Olympic spots, etc.
Brezina and Kovtun will finally skate great
3 spots for USA and Russian men
Shoma
* Who will get on the podium?
Shoma, Hanyu, Nathan
* How many landed with plus GOE quads will we get?
Probably a lot
* Who are you excited to see at Worlds?
Shoma, Boyang, Javi, Deniss, Misha, Mikhail, Moris
Plus your predictions, quandaries, concerns, anxieties, excitements on placements, quads, Olympic spots, etc.
Brezina and Kovtun will finally skate great
3 spots for USA and Russian men
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What a sad news. He was finally out of the year-long struggles plagued over him since the Worlds in Boston, but ironically his body couldn't allow him to compete at Worlds. Wish for a full and fast recovery.
So Han Yan need to be cancelled out. The new 24 is Martinez at 72.47.
Does anyone know the SP season best of Han Yan's replacement?
How come you have 35 guys in SP list and 36 guys in FS list? Who is missing?
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